Lets Talk About Things Science Cannot Explain

Dave said:
Maybe, I don't know anything about it, but just thought it could be a possible reason.
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Still, it is interesting that its been around as long as it has, Intact.
 
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BAYLOR said:
If it's located in Delhi , they do have monsoon season there and significant rainfall and wouldn't that hasten the corrosion of the Iron?:unsure:
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IIRC, I read somewhere about the iron used contains a lot of vanadium - it's the same source as was used in Damascus Steel and Ulfberht swords - and that it's this which forms a thin layer on the outside that specifically helps to resist corrosion.
 
Brian Turner said:
IIRC, I read somewhere about the iron used contains a lot of vanadium - it's the same source as was used in Damascus Steel and Ulfberht swords - and that it's this which forms a thin layer on the outside that specifically helps to resist corrosion.
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Interesting, didn't know that.


Damascus Steel. That's still a lost secret isn't it ? Nobodys has ever been able to duplicate it?
 
BAYLOR said:
Damascus Steel. That's still a lost secret isn't it ? Nobodys has ever been able to duplicate it?
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I don't know anything about this one either, but you sound like you're quoting this from the same kind of book or website as the one about the Iron Pillar. I'd very much doubt that there is any kind of "lost secret" involved. Someone could easily make Iron with a high Vanadium content if they so wanted but Vanadium is rare, and therefore very expensive. Does anyone care enough about replicating such a process to be able to afford to do it? They accidentally worked out very early how to add high a Carbon content to Iron. The blast furnaces were very primitive fires but worked quite well. I doubt that the process was the key here, but rather the peculiar quality of the Iron ore, which must have been Vanadium-rich.
 
Dave said:
I don't know anything about this one either, but you sound like you're quoting this from the same kind of book or website as the one about the Iron Pillar. I'd very much doubt that there is any kind of "lost secret" involved. Someone could easily make Iron with a high Vanadium content if they so wanted but Vanadium is rare, and therefore very expensive. Does anyone care enough about replicating such a process to be able to afford to do it? They accidentally worked out very early how to add high a Carbon content to Iron. The blast furnaces were very primitive fires but worked quite well. I doubt that the process was the key here, but rather the peculiar quality of the Iron ore, which must have been Vanadium-rich.
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Apparently and to my chagrin, :confused:It's not really a lost secret at all. I read blurb in a book years back calling it a lost secret without considering how accurate.:confused:
 
I'm sure I have spanners or a socket set with Chrome and Vanadium alloy steel.
The making of Damascus steel was "lost" for a while due to the ore source running out.
 
The Inexplicable will exist as long as there are things about physics that we do not understand. This is a condition that I'd almost go out on the limb and say will exist until the end of time-at least for each of us. The more we know the more we realize that there is further more to know. What is inexplicable today may be tomorrow's breakthrough science.

And if that were not enough there are some who take advantage of what is known and render it inexplicable-we often call these people magicians. Sometimes they are just con artists.

I like the Schrodinger example; because I think that's where a lot of the inexplicable belongs. There is a lot to be said for how much the observer influences the outcome of something; and when observing that which we cannot explain it seems there would be the triggering of several different influences that might cloud the ability to get to the heart of things.

We see that in recent research involving exceeding the speed of light and what was once called spook action at a distance that seem plagued with being tainted by the observer and sometimes by the limitations of the equipment used to measure the phenomenon. Instrument limitations often are closely tied with our limited knowledge of physics; which makes for baby steps as we learn more we can build more to help objectify or observations. These steps oddly create a pattern that screams out intelligent design which means that for answers to a few other questions brought up here we might require more time to understand the physics of the universe.
 
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