Disturbing Doctor Who Rumors

Phyrebrat said:
Thank you!

I was staying with my parents last weekend who adore Strictly and I had to sit through it while I was eating! it's an abhorrent bastardisation of dance and I can't understand the appeal of the show, the guests, lacklustre artists and puling judges.

Anyway, back on topic ;)


I stopped watching Dr Who when Catherine Tate came on board - that was just too far a stretch for me; if you're going to do comedy, I'd prefer it in the same vein as Farscape.

It had a golden age a few years back and though I'd be reluctant to apply the phrase jumped the shark, I think it's time to retire it for a few years. Bring it back refreshed for 2020!

pH
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Why not have the people that did the shows Eureka and Warehouse 13 do the series ? Or the producers of Farscape?
 
Well I think the problem is Dr Who operates in perpetuity whereas the creators of Farscape had a finite storyline they wanted to explore over seven seasons (and only got 4.5). Warehouse 13 could have gone the same way as Dr Who if it hadn't been discontinued. The last season of W-13 was, sadly, rushed so they could tidy the ends up. Having said that I'd be over the moon if W-13 made a comeback :D

Look at The X-Files; that really started to get messy as it dragged on and I don't recall many people rating the finale as any good. However, now we have the prospect of its return so the fans are ready and delighted at the prospect. I think Dr Who could benefit from the same hiatus.

pH
 
Phyrebrat said:
Well I think the problem is Dr Who operates in perpetuity whereas the creators of Farscape had a finite storyline they wanted to explore over seven seasons (and only got 4.5). Warehouse 13 could have gone the same way as Dr Who if it hadn't been discontinued. The last season of W-13 was, sadly, rushed so they could tidy the ends up. Having said that I'd be over the moon if W-13 made a comeback :D

Look at The X-Files; that really started to get messy as it dragged on and I don't recall many people rating the finale as any good. However, now we have the prospect of its return so the fans are ready and delighted at the prospect. I think Dr Who could benefit from the same hiatus.

pH
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The X Files ran 4 seasons too long and they badly botched the film franchise.
 
They could co produce the Dr Who with BBC America.
 
Phyrebrat said:
Agreed! The second film was dreadful!



They could, but I think it needs to be left for a few years.

pH
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The first X Files film was little more then big budgeted tv episode, it just didn't impress me. The should have done the films after the series.

They could do a Dr Who feature film or two, in the meantime. Ot they do a film taking place in the Dr Who universe, Maybe do the Earth Dalek Wars ? Or a film about Sontaran Battle ship during the Sontaran /Rhuton war of Band of bothers.:)
 
Overread said:
It's a problem with big business that it can quickly end up requiring and able to only support a certain kind of product that will sell massive volumes over higher grade, higher investment products with more niche market
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It's a sad trend that is not only happening to Doctor Who, when the corporate "suits" focus on numbers. They are concerned with producing a packaged commodity and looking only at sales figures, return on investment, and they forgot that the primary component of that commodity is STORY. Why have people around the world enjoyed the Doctor Who program for so many years, across the generations? Story. Nobody ever cared that the special effects were wobbly, that the scenery was cardboard, etc. The old episodes had STORY. Because it was originally aimed at young viewers, the producers and writers kept the stories clean and did not overload the plots with a lot of introspective gobbledygook.
 
Foxbat said:
Personally, I find it incredible that a 'BBC insider' says the decline in Dr Who viewers is very worrying when they are, themselves, to blame for this decline. I'm one of those lost viewers and have no intention of going back to it.

Here's why - first - the stories have been very poor, tried to be far too clever for their own good and, in many instances, heavy handedly twee. I don't think they know what their target audience is any more.

Secondly, the scheduling. They have forgotten that Dr Who was a show for kids that was also loved by adults. By sticking it on at eight thirty on a saturday evening, they are starting to stretch the links of that chain to breaking point. I'm pretty sure that they're doing this to give their flagship Strictly (unbearably awful) the best viewing figures possible and it's costing Dr Who dear. As long as they ignore this simple reality, things are only going to get worse.

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It's the old mantra - do the simple things well.
Saturday - 6.00 PM - family around the telly - that's what Dr Who is all about.
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Exactly. This sums up just about everything I think of the New Who at the moment. It is, quite frankly, a load of self-referential overly clever-clever bollocks that appears to be made by and for its own fans. It's lost the general audience by being too meta story arcy and lost the SF audience (evidenced by the near absence that I can see of any real conversation about the show - other than ones like this bemoaning the utter shitness of it all) by being too much 'get of Jail Free' hand-wavium (sonic sunglasses my arse!) para-religious bullsh**. Why does ever sodding villain have to:

a. Know who the Doctor is?
b. have a whole screed of pat psychoanalytical bullsh** to dump at him when they meet?

I am only watching it because kids two and three - aged 11 and 13 - appear to be enjoying it and it it's the only TV program we've watched at all really for years. Most of the post-match discussion of the last show was about the implausibility of having a dammed valley that would fill with water AND STAY FILLED after the dam had burst.
 
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