Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (2016)

Okay,

I saw the movie on Tuesday and I liked it a lot. Short of loving it, but more than I like a lot of films. Not being a geek about such films I did not see the problems with Tarkin, but did not know the history either. Maybe the less you know the more it works? The ending was a surprise to me, but in retrospect it made absolutely perfect sense. Definitely darker and more realistic than the original 3 Star Wars movies --- which for me is not a positive thing. I like my escapism to end on a lighter note than this one did. But once again, perfectly understandable.

(When are we going to cut through the Spoilers and discuss full on?)
 
It's still only a week after release, so I think spoilers are warranted for know, although if there's demand we could start a spoiler-specific thread.
 
I think a with-spoilers thread is a good idea right from the off for any major film like this.
 
There aren't many spoilers regarding the actual outcome that you can't guess. The spoilers are about the appearance of old characters and the fate of new characters. We probably want to discuss those characters more. The story is a bit more complicated than I had expected too, more convoluted. I also expect that it is also full of Easter Eggs in the background (in the shape of beasts and spacecraft) among all that was going on.
 
Saw it Thursday night and loved it - mostly.

The first 30min or so seemed to be "Here are all the new worlds and things Disney can sell toys and stage computer games with".

After that - with minor Tarkin grips as above - I loved it.

As a pretty deaf hearing aid wearer I miss a lot of dialogue - mainly when people turn away from camera whilst speaking. So that's a good excuse for another watch or three :)
 
After reading all these posts I really can't wait to see this film:) It sounds amazing. I looooove Star Wars!
 
I didn't really care for it. Unlike the IV and V, all of the other movies have this ridiculous sentimentality that just drags the shock out of this alien galaxy. The original two movies had charred bodies and deaths that affected the other characters for only the briefest amount of time before they got back to business. The blind guy and his heavily armed lover made it like watching Twilight with their nonsense. Even Chewie and Han would have been grossed out by their bro-love.

And, like Prometheus, Rogue One attempted to pack a ten pound ham in the plot space of a hot dog. New Hope made it clear that Leia's ship received transmissions from spies with the Death Star plans, and Rogue One takes that information and grossly expands it into an enormous space battle over an Empire controlled planet? WTF? And then 4 days after all those squadrons and major ships were destroyed, it's business as usual back on Yavin when the Falcon arrives with the Princess. Does that make any sense that her ship jumped to hyperspace at the end of Rogue One and ended up getting chased down around Tatooine on the way to Aldaraan? Why didn't they just go to Yavin with the tech data?


The CGI versions of old characters were creepy, and in the case of the actor that was long deceased; disrespectful.

And why did Darth Vader look so weird? Did they rent his costume at a Halloween store?


The original Star Wars was not a triumph of world building, it was an aesthetic triumph. IV and V had a level of dystopia and horror that seized the world's attention 40 years ago. By Return of the Jedi this was pretty much gone, but at least we got to see how things came out for Luke, Leia, Han and Vader. Everything else has been the equivalent of weak fan fiction rather than the grisly, immediate and shocking aesthetic of the first two films. The uncomfortably alien worlds and unsettling prop design that made the Hoth scenes so good have given way to "AT-AT, the Disney Ride".

I'm so tired of these sniveling characters living their uninteresting lives in these watered down impressions of the Star Wars galaxy. Blah.
 
Dave said:
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The guy on this video needs to seriously consider switching to decaf.

Just saw the movie today.

Minor spoiler impressions:
There were some overly long patriotic speeches. Some of the exterior shots, while intrinsically impressive were really way over the top. Some of the characters were great fun, but I didn't see enough of them, especially Chirrut Îmwe, the Star Wars version of Zatoichi, the blind swordsman. Forest Whitaker was almost unrecognizable and his role seemed minuscule as well. On the other hand, why was Krennik constantly dressed in a bed sheet. The final action sequences were really quite good. I'm still wondering if those rebel crows nest lookout stations have a bathroom.

More important spoiler impressions:
I actually thought the Moff Tarkin CGI was pretty good. But I don't know why they had to make him taller than Peter Cushing. However, I found the Leia closeup to look like nothing if not a wax doll. Spooky.

Overall, I found this to be a very good standalone venture. We need more of things like this.
 
RX-79G said:
I'm so tired of these sniveling characters living their uninteresting lives in these watered down impressions of the Star Wars galaxy. Blah.
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Well your impression of the movie is anything but Blah! --- I can't agree, but loved your passion.
 
Well after pressure from the wife (who generally isn't into the whole Star Wars gig: especially after watching the prequels), and very positive reviews across the interweb land, we're planning to see it this coming Friday night.

I have picked up a few spoilers here and there, but nothing that will significantly upset my enjoyment (or otherwise) of the film.

I have yet to see "The Franchise Awakens", but for all intents-and-purposes it seems like a rehash of IV. So won't be bothering with that for a long while to come!

But this standalone film shows a lot of promise. I just hope (a new hope?) it bears fruit, as I'm sure it will(y)
 
I loved it.
With the two exceptions of: The line, "try not to choke on your ambitions" or whatever it was. Really vader? And the East-Asian character is good at kung-fu trope was a little heavy. But small things, obviously. I thought Tarkin was great... I actually just thought it was a similar-looking actor until my buddy told me after. They used that CGI trick on the squadron leaders too. I think you'd only notice any of it if you realized in advance it was a modified character. The robot was awesome comic relief... much overdue after Jar Jar Binks. Finally, I was glad they didn't shoe-horn in a romance.
 
Amen to your final thought in your spoiler. I hadn't thought of that, but usually in a theater there is some of that, often IMO too much.
 
I finally got around to seeing this today. It's not without its faults, but I loved it. It was a great movie and an excellent Star Wars movie.

I didn't like Vader's voice, though. It seemed off.
 
Mister_Oy said:
I noticed that and put it down to James Earl Jones being a lot older now.
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I actually didn't notice this, but if they could change faces using technology, why didn't they change voices too? I mean to say, they sell Darth Vader voice-changers in toy shops, and these reality TV singing shows are accused of using machines to improve the singers voices so they are in key. So, it can't be that hard to do with a Hollywood budget.
 
Dave said:
I actually didn't notice this, but if they could change faces using technology, why didn't they change voices too? I mean to say, they sell Darth Vader voice-changers in toy shops, and these reality TV singing shows are accused of using machines to improve the singers voices so they are in key. So, it can't be that hard to do with a Hollywood budget.
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I believe its called "auto tuning". It's like cosmetic surgery for the audibly/vocally-challenged!

Auto-Tune - Wikipedia
 
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