A Growing indifference to Cinema Going

Seeing a movie in a cinema used to be an almost religious experience for me but over time the content just got less enthralling. I began to feel less enthusiastic about it by the mid-late 90s.

It is a shame if cinemas did die out because there is such a difference between seeing a movie on a large screen. I cannot believe anyone would watch a movie on a cellphone. I don't even like doing it on computer. Then again anyone can rig up a projector these days.

Holograms or VR. I don't think either are developed enough to offer the same experience as a movie. But the industry badly needs to diversify and get back regional film-especially in the US. Originally most US filmmakers came from the Mid West-and then after the 60s they started to come from California and New York mainly. Then the shift for filmmakers was more global and outside of NA and Western Europe.
Never in the history of the world have we have global art-it always reflected the identity of some heritage. It's an intriguing experiment to have one size fits all but ultimately unsatisfying.

I read the reports that movie-going in the US is at a 25 year low (but the studios are happy they say because they make sales globally) to mean it is time to think local. The corporations are only interested in globalist policy. An alternative to the Hollywood system desperately needs to sprout. Amazon and Netflix are also globalist in their content selections and promotions.

It's pretty astounding to see filmmaking in a dire state due to the monopoly of company ownership. Everything is so "beta" these days, from writing to acting to musical scores.

One of the best film scores I heard recently was composed for a restoration of a 1929 movie that the unknown composer did for free. Talent exists, it is just that studio owners are interested in something other than making content that pleases specific audiences (which is how it used to be when cinema was diversified).

Disney apparently owns 90 % of film content in cinemas now?

That sort of thing used to trigger anti-monopoly laws.
 
The place where I live once had an Odeon, a Gaumont, an Empire and an Essoldo cinema. It also had up to 100 small theatres and music halls. It was the centre of entertainment at the turn of the last century. Rather sadly, none of those now survive. The Odeon was last to close in the late '60's. it became a Bingo Hall and then was demolished.

Does that mean that my neighbours have become philistines?

Of course not, there are plenty of cinemas nearby, some newly built. Travel to central London is easier and (quicker)* today, so the West End theatres and cinemas are within easy distance. We know why cinema died out - TV brought entertainment into the home. However, nothing can beat watching a show in an audience (certainly nothing beats a live show with an audience.) Cinemas were all but dying when I starting going in the '70's. They were showing porn and soft-porn, and "carry on" comedy with heavy innuendo. That changed with Jaws and Star Wars, and they haven't yet looked back.

Go and watch Shape of Water. Baylor -saying Superhero and Star Wars movies are the only things worth watching is laughable. Basically you are saying is big budget, CGI action is the only stuff worth watching. And even if that was the case there will always be some of that.

Earlier in this thread I gave many further examples of excellent films. Sadly, some films do not get enough screens or publicity, however, the Art-House film scene is thriving.

Disney apparently owns 90 % of film content in cinemas now?

Disney just bought Fox. I'm not sure how that will work out. As you say, a monopoly without competition doesn't usually bring creativity and risk-taking.


*this is debatable.
 
Exactly. And as I pointed out with the link above, cinema was at its lowest ebb in attendance in '84, when Ghostbusters came out.
Go and watch Shape of Water. Baylor -saying Superhero and Star Wars movies are the only things worth watching is laughable. Basically you are saying is big budget, CGI action is the only stuff worth watching. And even if that was the case there will always be some of that.

The indifference some feel is comparable to when someone doesn't go to pubs much anymore. Their tastes in activities change. But the overall numbers don't show growing indifference. And that's despite high prices when refreshments are included.

That is not what I meant Judderman. Those big budget films tend to predominate at the box office.

There was a bit on the news about Cinema going being on the overall decline. Audience indifference to the offering is probably one of a number of factors , the others being that there are multiple venues for ones entertainment dollar.
 
Of course it will! Streaming will take over, which will soon be coupled with VR, etc.

Alternate venues and the fact that these venues have lot of money to attract the best of Hollywoods talent away from the big screen.:unsure:
 
Alternate venues and the fact that these venues have lot of money to attract the best of Hollywoods talent away from the big screen.:unsure:

Not yet, they aren't! It'll be several years before the cinema declines to the point decisions will need to be made. Seems some - like Paramount and Disney - are preparing for the inevitable. Others will die.
 
Not yet, they aren't! It'll be several years before the cinema declines to the point decisions will need to be made. Seems some - like Paramount and Disney - are preparing for the inevitable. Others will die.

This consolidation that we are now seeing brings to mind the of Max Headroom episode where we discover that Cinema got swallowed up by the bit tv network conglomerates and rendered extinct. It's really frightening how prescient that tv series has proven to be. :unsure:
 
Maybe cinema will go the way of theatre and become a minority interest subsidised by the occasional big event.
 
Maybe cinema will go the way of theatre and become a minority interest subsidised by the occasional big event.
Undoubtedly it will do this, but long-term. Instead, we will be talking part in 'reality' cinema/games where we play roles. However, this thread was discussing the here and the right here now. We are not at that place, right now. I do not see any evidence of a "growing indifference for cinema going" and none has been provided (other than that cinema was much more popular before TV and peaked in the 1940s.)

There was a bit on the news about Cinema going being on the overall decline. Audience indifference to the offering is probably one of a number of factors , the others being that there are multiple venues for ones entertainment dollar.

Which "news"? When, where? What research cited? Independently peer reviewed? Or fake news? Comment or fact? Personal bias?
 
I do not see any evidence of a "growing indifference for cinema going" and none has been provided

I can't speak for anyone else, but the last time anyone I know told me they were going to the cinema was the last but one Star Wars movie. I haven't been to a cinema in over two years, and that time was because I had a free ticket voucher.

Between the mostly-crappy movies, the cost, and the bed-bugs, I see no reason to go to a cinema at all. Particularly when I can go there at home any time I feel like it in VR (though they need to at least double the number of pixels in the headsets to really make it a cinema-equivalent).
 
The last several times I went to the theater... the place was packed.

Was that the Special Ed kids again? They provided more entertainment than the movie in the Alien vs Predator movie showing we went to a few years back.

(forget which one it was, but it was set on Earth and so dark you couldn't even see what was happening most of the time)
 
AND it costs a fortune. Over 20$ after transpo and popcorn, and many more movies not worth the 3$ they used to rent for. A rich person's hobby now, cinema-going. )
 
AND it costs a fortune. Over 20$ after transpo and popcorn, and many more movies not worth the 3$ they used to rent for. A rich person's hobby now, cinema-going. )

The concession prices certainly don't help.:D
 
Concession prices are self-defeating. Selling for less brings more customers. Less profit per customer, but more profit overall. I have no idea who decided to have the Concession make up costs, but it certainly wasn't someone from the restaurant community - nor, it seems, from the retail industry.
 

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