Game of Thrones: 7.05 - Eastwatch

[Judderman]

Good episode - and just what I was expecting after last week. An episode of moving pieces around the board.

Next week is looking like more of the same I reckon leading to the usual penultimate episode mayhem!

Next week (6) is the penultimate episode! 2 episodes left this season and only 6 planned for next. There should be a lot of action but I think there will be limited reasoning shown for whatever alliances and betrayals happen before the end. I think there is so much grey in the characters that almost any combination of victory/betrayal/defeat could still happen and it could still make sense.

 

[Judderman]

So is Dany's suggestion to Cersei that they pause the war while they await for a White Walker example to be brought south? It seems Dany only sent Mormont, Davos and Gendry up north to help so far. As said above it seems rather Hollywood that a lot of the key characters go off to kidnap a Walker. Still it was a very intriguing episode. I think Littlefinger is trying to turn Arya against Sansa. I'm not clear if that is to give a reason to kill Arya or not. I can't see him trying to marry Arya!

 

[Judderman]

Anyone else feel that Jon will be the betrayal for love. And that it will result in Jon dying/sacrificing himself to help win the war. Thus bringing the bittersweet ending of the war won, but jon being dead whilst dany is left to rule westeros.

That would leave it open for Dany's cruel streak to return at the end of the show. Dany's breaking bad change continued at the start of the episode with the burning of the Tarlys, and it seems only Jon can keep her on a relatively good path.

 

[Koopa]

6 episodes for 2019. Possible late 2018. It will be another wait. Lets hope the finale is worth it all.

 

[Ursa major]

If there isn't waiting, it isn't ASoIaFGame of Thrones!

 

[LilyDraken]

I came across this article and thought it interesting enough to share. I'd love to get everyone's thoughts.

 

[LilyDraken]

That would leave it open for Dany's cruel streak to return at the end of the show. Dany's breaking bad change continued at the start of the episode with the burning of the Tarlys, and it seems only Jon can keep her on a relatively good path.

Between Jon and Tyrion, I think there's a good chance they'll keep her on the straight and narrow. Tyrion makes an excellent Hand, and he's the one who got her to trust Jon in the first place. He's the one who enabled their "relationship" (working relationship as of now), tenuous though it may be. I think Tyrion needs to be a mite more vocal next time Dany wants to roast someone(s), but in general, I think he can temper her until she and Jon come to an accord.

 

[grip junky]

I am going to guess that bringing an undead over the wall breaks the spell of the wall.

 

[LilyDraken]

I am going to guess that bringing an undead over the wall breaks the spell of the wall.

I'll play devil's advocate for the moment and say they're at Eastwatch-By-the-Sea, so maybe they can take their undead captive and bring it around the Wall, instead of through it. But I think your theory has merit.

 

[grip junky]

I'll play devil's advocate for the moment and say they're at Eastwatch-By-the-Sea, so maybe they can take their undead captive and bring it around the Wall, instead of through it. But I think your theory has merit.

I am not smart, all this time in my mind the wall did not mean anything it could have been a chalk line and in my thinking it went all the way around the north, north. The magic was the big deal. Now I get why the dead are going to Eastwatch to go around the wall. I am a dumdbell.

 

[Judderman]

I came across this article and thought it interesting enough to share. I'd love to get everyone's thoughts.

In the episode it wasn't really clear if there was any purpose to bringing him back other than he can join in the heroic actions up north. I like the theory though I'm not convinced.
Who do the folks who used to follow the Baratheons (such as Stannis) now follow? They are amongst the Lannister army or northern? Or all wiped out by Ramsay?

 

[Narkalui]

I am going to guess that bringing an undead over the wall breaks the spell of the wall.

They brought undead through the wall in S1.

Also, apparently there are 7 episodes not 6.

 

[grip junky]

They brought undead through the wall in S1.

Also, apparently there are 7 episodes not 6.

I had thought they came through the wall as a corpse and then had reanimated some how. Ones a walking zombie the magic of the wall held them to the one side. Why go around? They could just bust down one of the doors and save a lot of time.

 

[ctg]

I had thought they came through the wall as a corpse and then had reanimated some how. Ones a walking zombie the magic of the wall held them to the one side. Why go around? They could just bust down one of the doors and save a lot of time.

At the very first episode, there was a white walker. How it had got south of the wall, I don't know, but that episode alone debunks the theory that the dead cannot cross the Wall. For some reason they haven't done it in mass numbers.

 

[grip junky]

At the very first episode, there was a white walker. How it had got south of the wall, I don't know, but that episode alone debunks the theory that the dead cannot cross the Wall. For some reason they haven't done it in mass numbers.

I have not watched all the shows I was waiting for the books. I gave up on all that. It has been so long since I have read the first book I did and do not remember about the white walker south of the wall. I will have to reread or watch the 25 or so shows I have saved and not watched. Thanks for the reply.

 

[grip junky]

ones should say once, I am a very bad writer but that one is driving me crazy.

 

[pete997]

At the very first episode, there was a white walker. How it had got south of the wall, I don't know, but that episode alone debunks the theory that the dead cannot cross the Wall. For some reason they haven't done it in mass numbers.

That white walker was not south of the wall. but in a later episode a Night Watch patrol north of the wall found the bodies of two of their men. men missing for a long time. they appeared dead. they brought one back to Castle Black and laid it out in the Lord Commanders quarters for later examination. the blue eyes alarmed them. it reanimated and nearly killed Jon and the commander but Ghost intervened

 

[Narkalui]

I always interpreted it that they were playing possum and could be brought through the wall by the living but were unable to do so under their own steam

 

[grip junky]

Could it be that a White walker and the undead zombie are not the same and the magic of the wall treats them as such. A undead can be on the other side of the wall with no effect, A white walker taken to the other side brakes the spell.

 

[ctg]

Could it be that a White walker and the undead zombie are not the same and the magic of the wall treats them as such. A undead can be on the other side of the wall with no effect, A white walker taken to the other side brakes the spell

From what we have seen they have all blue eyes. Except the Undead Mountain. I'm not sure what colour his eyes are at the moment. I still strongly believe he can do nothing if the Night King would confront him. To me the Night King is a necromancer and he would have power over the Undead Mountain - to control him as he wish. Cercei and all her men could not stop it. Or him after that happens.