Game of Thrones: 7.07 - The Dragon and the Wolf

[WaylanderToo]

Watched it for breakies and was blown away.

Bronn was in full flow so bonus marks for the straight from the off
Right until the last I thought that LF had played Sansa for a fool - that really was a yes!!! moment
Jamie doing the honourable thing (surprised and pleased)
Curious as to why Tyrion seemed... 'disapproving' of Jon's tryst though

 

[WaylanderToo]

HOLY CRAP!

What a great season ending! Is it late 2018 yet?

2019 I'm afraid...

Ya, when, I think you mean. They were a bit heavy handed foreshadowing that she’s probably not sterile after all.

I’m very interested how it goes down. It will just be Bran, with apparent vested intetest in Stark family power, telling Jon and Danny the news. Nobody else can confirm it.

Unless, when he finally meets Dany, he breaks the ice like he did with Sansa, heh.

Sam Tarly can confirm it, it's in the books

Anyone else notice the actor playing Rhaegar is also the actor who played Viserys. Or did I see that wrong.

Mrs W thought that too

 

[Koopa]

Found this on westeros:
Viserys was played by Harry Lloyd, and Rhaegar by Wilf Scolding.

Guess not the same actors after all. Not that it matters much, unless Rhaegar will be geting some unexpected screentime in the last season or in a spin-off

@Tyrion, didn't quite get that either. In an interview they make them coming together like that a bad thing. Seems to me like the king in the north would make a good ally and marriage partner. Even if him being the 'true' heir to the iron throne complicates things. It's not they, the writers seem bothered with the incest of it all. Guess they're maybe angling for that betrayal for love thingie. Dunno guess we will see. Jon betraying Dany doesn't seem like something the writers could pull of convincingly though. This season has put quite a dent in my trust in these writers tbh.

 

[zmunkz]

Well, when Dany hears she isn’t the rightful queen she might not be happy. That’s been her whole life. It is going to drive them apart to be sure, and the closer they get now, the messier that will be.

 

[Bugg]

Although I found it all a little on the predictable side I enjoyed it a hell of a lot, especially the Sansa/Arya/Littlefinger and Cersei/Tyrion scenes.

 

[ctg]

 

[Droflet]

Cersei has totally lost the plot. IMHO.

 

[Lumens]

Was a good episode indeed. It redeems some of the weaker parts of this season, so all is forgiven.

 

[Gnrevolution]

It's a good episode. The biggest caveat is that they could have cut out the 2 episodes in which Jon and his merry men go on their stupid quest. Whilst dany giftwrappes a dragon to bring a solution to how the others are going to bring the wall down. Would have preferred this meeting and episode taking place 2 episodes ago without that stupid queest and the wall being brought down by some other means. Again this episode was solid though.

It's a stretch but one theory doing the rounds is that the NK was waiting north of the wall for one of the dragons to show up, that the rise of the NK and the birth of the dragons are somehow linked. Like I said, it's a bit of a stretch, but it was rather convenient that they've been nowhere near the wall until now and then wham, within an episode of the dragon being turned they all show up. It is almost like they were waiting....

I suspect they could have breached the gates at Eastwatch regardless using the giants in the same way the Wildlings did, I mean what does it matter to them if they loose a few people, can't they just raise them again..? It all depends on whether the wall is magically protecting their transition from north to south, in the books it is supposed to have some sort of magical protection, in the show I'm not sure they've dwelled on that too much

 

[Darth Angelus]

An outstanding, and I daresay even epic season finale.

I really liked pretty much everything about it.
The negotiations for truce in the beginning, with all reunions of characters who have not met in seasons, and first meeting of some who have not met at all.
Littlefinger's demise, and it did come as a surprise to me that he was on trial and not Arya. I did think he had managed to turn Sansa against Arya.
The official revelation that Jon was really the son of Rhaegar Targaryan* and Lyanna Stark (not that that was a surprise anymore).
And, of course, the ending, with the dead finally attacking full scale and the undead dragon tearing down the wall.


* I also thought Rhaegar very much looked like he was played by the same actor as Viserys.

 

[Judderman]

Well I was much less awestruck than many of you guys. It was good but I was left a little flat by the episode, as with many this season. Though of course out of its film length there were some very good moments.

I think the way Sansa announced Littlefinger as the one to be punished was well done and kind of a surprise considering Arya was apparently about to be in trouble. It did seem to me that then a lot of the Arya and Sansa and Littlefingers scenes we suffered through this season were somewhat a waste of time as it just resulted in the bad guy getting his dues for past treachery. That Littlefinger would be the loser was always the likely outcome until this episode when it seemed he might have convinced Sansa rather easily after all.

The zombie reveal from the trunk was done very well, but of course we knew what was in there. I thought the Lannisters may have revealed their treachery while they had their opposing leaders there and spring a trap. But the planned treachery does mean we will see a nice battle between the Golden Company and the combined Targaryen forces. Can the Ironborn still stop the Targ transport plan? Or maybe Reek will prevent that. The Targs will win against the GC and Lannisters but their losses will mean the heroes need to kill off the Ice King to save their people. Bronn and the Hound were amusing. And Cersei was a highlight again too.

The Targ reveal was basically just a relief that we don't have this non-surprise hanging over to next series. As with Jon and Dany getting together. I wonder then in the books what Aegon's role will be. Perhaps just to be revealed as a fake or further down the line of succession than Jon. Still not clear what the Barratheon son's purpose is other than he can run for long distances.

I was pleased to see the Ice Dragon and co getting across the wall as the last scene rather than the usual Dany and Dragons ending. Although I agree with others that the Dragon breathing some kind of flame instead of ice is a bit of a convenient surprise.

 

[Ursa major]

2019 I'm afraid...

There's a rumour** that the last season won't be shown until the last book is out.


** - And if there wasn't, there is now....

 

[Lucien21]

There's a rumour** that the last season won't be shown until the last book is out.


** - And if there wasn't, there is now....

I don't think I could wait that long

A Game of Throne Aug 1996
A Clash of Kings February 1999 2.5 years
A Storm of Swords November 2000 nearly 2 years
A Feast for Crows November 2005 5 years
A Dance with Dragons July 2011 6 Years
The Winds of Winter 2018?? 7 years
A Dream of Spring 2026 8 years ??

 

[WaylanderToo]

Still not clear what the Barratheon son's purpose is other than he can run for long distances..

he can row a little - mind you get Reek in there too and.....

 

[svalbard]

Well I was much less awestruck than many of you guys. It was good but I was left a little flat by the episode, as with many this season. Though of course out of its film length there were some very good moments.

I think the way Sansa announced Littlefinger as the one to be punished was well done and kind of a surprise considering Arya was apparently about to be in trouble. It did seem to me that then a lot of the Arya and Sansa and Littlefingers scenes we suffered through this season were somewhat a waste of time as it just resulted in the bad guy getting his dues for past treachery. That Littlefinger would be the loser was always the likely outcome until this episode when it seemed he might have convinced Sansa rather easily after all.

The zombie reveal from the trunk was done very well, but of course we knew what was in there. I thought the Lannisters may have revealed their treachery while they had their opposing leaders there and spring a trap. But the planned treachery does mean we will see a nice battle between the Golden Company and the combined Targaryen forces. Can the Ironborn still stop the Targ transport plan? Or maybe Reek will prevent that. The Targs will win against the GC and Lannisters but their losses will mean the heroes need to kill off the Ice King to save their people. Bronn and the Hound were amusing. And Cersei was a highlight again too.

The Targ reveal was basically just a relief that we don't have this non-surprise hanging over to next series. As with Jon and Dany getting together. I wonder then in the books what Aegon's role will be. Perhaps just to be revealed as a fake or further down the line of succession than Jon. Still not clear what the Barratheon son's purpose is other than he can run for long distances.

I was pleased to see the Ice Dragon and co getting across the wall as the last scene rather than the usual Dany and Dragons ending. Although I agree with others that the Dragon breathing some kind of flame instead of ice is a bit of a convenient surprise.

I would agree with you on the finale, although not the season.

The look on Littlefinger's face as the penny dropped and he realised he was goosed was brilliant. I will miss Aiden Gillen and his weird accent.

I thought the strongest scenes were with the Lannister siblings. Dinklage finally got some juicey scenes to steal. Poor Jaime, he truly believed in Cersei, his disillusionment was palpable.

I am not buying the Jon and Dany love story.

And finally Theon finds a pair of...oh wait!

 

[Heather Myst]

Awesome! The first thing I want to say is that Ned Stark would be proud. It was so great to see the Starks on top again.

Theon's redemption, Littlefingers downfall, Cersei planning the long game, and Tyrion chugging that wine were great moments in this episode. Damn I am going to miss this show.

I need to watch the episode again but didn't Cersei nod yes to Ser Gregor for him to kill Jamie. I thought he pulled his sword part way out too. Why didn't he kill Jamie and was Cersei upset that he didn't? I can't believe that I missed her reaction.

 

[Judderman]

Maybe Cersei had already told Ser Gregor only to intimidate Jamie and not to go through with it? She has to hope Jamie doesn't go and tell of her treachery.

 

[Culhwch]

A good episode. Unfortunately I had the Littlefinger reveal inadvertently spoiled beforehand, but it was still great to see him get his due, and at Arya's hand no less. That whole charade though puts into question the Arya-Sansa exchange last episode, which can't have been just for show as no one was watching. All was quickly resolved, forgiven, and/or forgotten, it seems.

Also happy to see Jaime depart from Cersei's poisonous influence. It will be interesting to see what he does next - whether he tries to gather loyal Lannister men or simply goes alone to the fight in the north. It will also be interesting to see how the Stark-Targaryen alliance treat him - I suspect Brienne will be his champion to their cause. It'll also become quickly obvious that Cersei has betrayed them when none of her armies appear, but will he betray her plan to bring the Golden Company across to Weseros?

With only six episodes planned this final season is going to be action packed, and may need to move even quicker than this past season. The defeat of the Night King has to be the ultimate battle, surely, but how do they account for Cersei prior to that? Or do they do three to four episodes to beat the Night King, then turn to finish off Cersei in the last two to three (Scouring of the Shire style, perhaps)? What a frustrating wait this will be - although at least it will still be shorter than the wait between books!

 

[Cat's Cradle]

I find myself thinking about Arya's list, and if she might still add names to it (especially should loved ones be killed in the war). And I'm wondering if she could wear the face of a White Walker. I have this image of her standing next to the Night King in disguise, with Westeros in ruins... and her having a secreted obsidian knife. Might sound crazy, but it would be an awesome scene to behold.

edit - or instead of obsidian - and forgive me, my memory is terrible - the Valyrian steel knife... doesn't Valyrian steel kill White Walkers? There has to be a reason she was given that blade...

 

[ctg]

It'll also become quickly obvious that Cersei has betrayed them when none of her armies appear, but will he betray her plan to bring the Golden Company across to Weseros?

How long will Cersei credit with the Golden Company hold? How much gold does she really have left? Most of the arable land covered under snow is going to make hard time to replenish the food stock and with million people living in King's landing is going to spell really hard times for the city-dwellers.