Solo: A Star Wars Story (2018)

[Onyx]

He stopped directing films after Star Wars . He was rusty and it showed. Had he continued directing , The prequels might have turned out better then they did.

I don't see how Lucas having an even bigger role in the prequels would have fixed them.

 

[BAYLOR]

I don't see how Lucas having an even bigger role in the prequels would have fixed them.

If he had still been in directing , he would have become far better at his craft which, would included story telling and maybe he would've decided that that he should rethink the story concepts and characters for the prequels . For example no Jar Jar Binks and maybe he thrown the whole midiclorian baloney out the window. And He would been alot better at directing actors of which he was was not that good.

 

[BAYLOR]

I saw the original Star Wars when it first came out, I enjoyed it because it was unlike any since fction film id ever seen. It was alot of fun. Int was pivotal in alot of ways, Movie executive seeing its successs wanted a successful franchise of it own. It made then see the profit potential in sincere fiction, It helped pave the wasy for the fimsa nd tv series that came afterwards.

 

[Dave]

No one is forcing anyone to watch this, and for the record, I liked it, but with all due respect, if you feel the need to trash it, then you really need to watch it first.

It sounds like Han Solo has a run in with a powerful Sith 10 years before he proclaims to Luke that the Force is a "Hokey religion" and lightsabers are "ancient weapons".

It is all completely fine. Han Solo's childhood crush is working for someone, who is working for that person, but Han will never get to know anything about that. As far as Han is concerned, the bad guy gets killed, the girl is saved, and he wins the Millennium Falcon from Lando.

Also, I'm still unsure about this "10 years earlier" business. They obviously wanted to leave room for a sequel, but in reality, Rogue One could happen on the following day.

 

[Onyx]

No one is forcing anyone to watch this, and for the record, I liked it, but with all due respect, if you feel the need to trash it, then you really need to watch it first.

It is all completely fine. Han Solo's childhood crush is working for someone, who is working for that person, but Han will never get to know anything about that. As far as Han is concerned, the bad guy gets killed, the girl is saved, and he wins the Millennium Falcon from Lando.

Also, I'm still unsure about this "10 years earlier" business. They obviously wanted to leave room for a sequel, but in reality, Rogue One could happen on the following day.

My understanding was the Sith person who shall remain nameless is a set up for a Solo sequel where they will play more of a part. But you're right that what I'm complaining about hasn't happened - yet.


10 years is the time it will take for Chewie to age from the 190 years stated in Solo to the 200 years that is canon for Star Wars. It is also almost enough time to destroy the Falcon. The end of Rogue One is hours or days before Star Wars. So I doubt Han Solo wore his ship down, dumped a load of spice owned by his long-standing business associate Jabba and was waiting around on Tatooine for a job all in the space of a day.

 

[night_wrtr]

My understanding was the Sith person who shall remain nameless is a set up for a Solo sequel where they will play more of a part. But you're right that what I'm complaining about hasn't happened - yet.

I wouldn’t be surprised if a sequel is not centered on Solo, but instead Boba/Hutt or the criminal underworld. There have been glimpses of this, and George Lucas mentioned he wanted to do an Underworld type of story. Maybe they will go that route, as it was definitely set up for a longer story arc.

If Boba ever did appear again, I’d rather it be with him crawling out of the Sarlacc pit. There might be a loss of interest for movies like this for the fact that most people know how the basics of where these characters end up. It didn’t offer that new story, but simply a fleshing out of a characters early years.

 

[Parson]

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I'm confused. That wasn't Jyn Erso. I don't think that character has had any other appearance in the story so far - not yet anyway.

I'm sure You're right. I have the devil's own time recognizing characters by their looks. I'm always asking my wife "Is that the character who...." In this case it seemed so perfect.

 

[WaylanderToo]

I would assume that was the reason. I also agree with those saying that to have squeezed maximum profit from this franchise, they should have probably spaced out the release dates more, and kept the fans hungry for more. I'm happy they just released them as they were finished instead.

the interesting thing about spacing them out is Disney's 'other' property seems to be banging out hit after hit - 3 this year alone with a 4th film due out any time soon. That is, of course, the MCU - to be fair though MCU has broken all the rules anyway.

 

[Toby Frost]

Personally, while this could have been a tighter film, I thought it was pretty decent. I didn't think it really got going until the train scam appeared, and there were one or two moments that didn't quite work script-wise (the relationship between the two criminals, apparently man and wife, felt weirdly underplayed, as if they'd forgotten how they knew each other). But overall, decent stuff, and fun.

I take the opposite view to Parson on the Jedi - I was glad not to have them. Maybe it's age, or over-familiarity, or just that the writing is worse in the recent films, but the more I see them, the more tired of their shtick I get. The Jedi thing doesn't sound very meaningful or moral to me. I'd actually rather that they talked about the right and wrong thing to do rather than the dark and light sides - it's not quite the same, but I can get those concepts in a way that I can't do the cod mysticism.

One thing about our wonderful internet era is its ability to polarise people. I re-watched a snippet of the film on Youtube, in which the robot (who I thought was ok, I suppose) appeared. Foolishly, I looked at the comments thread, in which a horde of foaming cranks were screaming that this was the end of the white race, a conspiracy by lesbians to destroy Hollywood, etc. I am now strongly in favour of the robot.

 

[Dave]

Thinking overnight about Han saying to Luke that the Force is a "Hokey religion" and lightsabers are "ancient weapons" - I realise now that they have deliberately made that into a joke - Han may think that is true, but all of the time there have been strings being pulled and shadows at work in the background. In some ways, that is a much bigger retcon than having him not shoot first.

 

[night_wrtr]

Foolishly, I looked at the comments thread, in which a horde of foaming cranks were screaming that this was the end of the white race, a conspiracy by lesbians to destroy Hollywood, etc. I am now strongly in favour of the robot.

There is a youtube channel that puts up a star wars show every week to talk about news, movies, comic, etc. Its a fun positive discussion and review, but if you wander into the comments section it degrades into arguments, conspiracies and hate. In fact, just about every comment section in youtube follows that same path.

 

[Rodders]

It's pretty appalling how these people think that it's okay to make such hateful comments. I read that Kelly Marie Tran had to cease her Twitter account due to the abuse that she was receiving online. Not good.

 

[Toby Frost]

In fact, just about every comment section in youtube follows that same path.

It does seem that comments sections are often a complete sewer. I always wonder what the people (well, adolescent boys) who post this stuff look like, and how much like my mental image their lives are.

On a different note, that's not how I thought restraining bolts worked. Does that mean that Star Wars robots all want to be free, and are all being kept in slavery? I never saw it that way in the past.

 

[Dave]

Lando's co-pilot L3 robot talked way too much. I couldn't imagine having someone that talked as much as that as a co-pilot, human or robot. Chewie is more of the ideal partner, even with the growling.

I had also imagined restraining bolts to be more of a "thought police" concept than a physical thing. A New Hope showed bolts, and also robots being caught and sold, but I still think the analogy was more implicit. Maybe I just wasn't looking back then. However, R2D2 didn't run away because he wanted to be free, but because he had been given prior instructions with a higher protocol. C3P0 ran away with him, but he bitched about it the whole way.

 

[night_wrtr]

On a different note, that's not how I thought restraining bolts worked. Does that mean that Star Wars robots all want to be free, and are all being kept in slavery? I never saw it that way in the past.

Sounds like a great writing prompt for an essay on the sentience of droids and their rights within the universe!

I always thought restraining bolts simply limited their functionality or something. R2 was still able to have intellectual thought, resisted playing the obi-wan message as ordered, and fooled Luke into having it removed so he could escape to complete his mission.

And as far as droids go, K2SO from Rogue One was great. I worried that L3 would be too similar, but they did a good enough job making her unique.

 

[Toby Frost]

Yes, I agree. The implication of that scene seemed to be that the droids were metal people forced to work, and that once the bolts were removed, they would rebel and live free. I always assumed that, being robots, the droids were built to work, and didn't object to it because they were simply machines and had no concept of freedom or being oppressed. Thinking about it a bit more, I would have expected their personality quirks to be either programmed in to make them more relateable, or the result of minor malfunction/eccentricity brought on by age.

I did like K2SO as well. I thought that L3 was quite amusing, but would have been a bit much had she had a much larger role. One wonders what "that thing" Lando did might have been!

 

[night_wrtr]

I did like K2SO as well. I thought that L3 was quite amusing, but would have been a bit much had she had a much larger role. One wonders what "that thing" Lando did might have been!

Hahaha, right? I enjoyed her arc and how it concluded.

Spoiler

Becomming part of the falcon. Which was a neat throwback to when C3P0 was trying to fix the falcon’s computer and mentioned how peculiar it behaved.

 

[Rodders]

I found her quite annoying. The robot revolution was a cheap laugh and not handled well.

I do find the subject of robot rights in the SW universe interesting though.

 

[night_wrtr]

I do find the subject of robot rights in the SW universe interesting though.

Well, we do know one thing, they are not welcome at the Mos Eisley Cantina.

 

[Parson]

It does seem that comments sections are often a complete sewer. I always wonder what the people (well, adolescent boys) who post this stuff look like, and how much like my mental image their lives are

I wish I thought it was just or almost only adolescent boys. (Sigh!)