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When they were doing the beaming thing, how they were so precise, because to my eyes, if they'd have gone slightly to the side, they'd beamed each other, right?
I'd have to go back and look. Maybe it was one of those opposing beams canceling each other out things.
 
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So, they finally gave us an explanation for the powerless supes. "Soldier Boy burns V out of their blood." I don't really buy it, because if it burns the V, it should cause something horrific, not just death and blackened corpses. I mean we should see probably extreme forms of powers, as it goes, but the blast is so quick that we'll never see it.

But it didn't affect Butcher and his temp-V, because right after it, that last fight happened. Then we have the fact that the Soldier Boy is partly mental, through the PTSD's. But at least Butcher is medicating him with a weed. Except I doubt he's giving the boy CBD, but instead he's supplying him high grade THC that's only going to cause more psychosomatic errors.

That man is a sum of all sorts of things that should not have happened, and trying to fix his brain after decades of torture isn't going to happen with a couple of joints. It just isn't. Not even if he'd get Snoop Dog's Cookies.

Instead, if I'm reading this right, he's going to be one of Garth's extreme supes, just like what happened in the Preacher with their Main Characters. There is almost nothing that can hold him, stop him, or put him in his place. And I hated that he just left Butcher to lie on the forest floor after MindTrap effed Butcher.

Soldier Boy only saw him as a number, and I loved that Hughie confronted the mad man with the reality about his past, instead of sh*t that he spews out of his mouth, every minute. To be honest, I kind of wish that Hughie would have left Soldier Boy to get lost in the forest forever.

I hated him even more when Noir revealed in his psychosis the past in the Soldier Boy family, meaning that the powers has gone in the Soldier Boy's and he needs a good slapping, to get him to understand that he is a big bully. A total d*ck (pardon by French).

What soldier would leave a man behind to die? According to Noir's cartoon, he punished his team to a point that they are all turned on him, when Edgar made an offer.

In the Butcher's memories, we also saw him become the image of his father, another bully. His way was the army service, and he wasn't there to stop his brother, when he played with the wheelgun. Reliving that memory didn't teach him anything.

He could not tell Hughie the truth about the temp V. Instead he just continued being the man he is, and using the boy to advance his agenda.

The biggest mindef was revealing the Homelander being Soldier Boy's son.

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First Kimiko surprised me with the biggest bottle of whisky, ever, in her handbag. Then Starlight drank it as if she's a complete alcoholic, before Kimiko revealed that it was her fight drink, ever.

Mind blown, but it didn't stop there, as the next ask was with the Compound V, not the temp stuff. It is as if all of them have gone slightly bonkers. Kimiko lost her powers and was happy about it. Then she had to save Frenchie, and she liked the action, a bit too much.

So yeah, getting back to supply of the blue stuff, is kind of logical next step ... in the crazy man's world. But then again, they're living in the world where the extreme people are complete nut jobs, so who is us to say no to their slightly mental moves, when the heroes live the heroes lives. That's what she chose, and said in her message. That it was her choice to take chemical, and the candlelight moment was the fact that she almost lost Frenchie.

That is so sweet. Her being lioness. Another one is StarLight, especially for telling Homelander, to his face, to shove it because all he is, is another bully. Not a man. Not even a macho man, but an insane, homicidal dictator that ultimately is nothing more than a bully.

I can't stop shaking my head on these revelations and twists.
 
Good episode, I thought. I do love Kimiko, best character in it. The "English" accents in it though are terrible, like, really bad. Always said Karl Urban's was terrible (sounds Australian rather than English to me - I know, I know he's from New Zealand but him trying to do an English accent sounds Australian), but the kid who played his younger brother sounded Irish and his dad was awful too. The young actor who played teen Billy was passable. I just can't suspend my disbelief that these characters are from England because they sound so wrong.

Anyway. Kinda saw the Soldier Boy thing coming.

Had to Google Antony Starr's birthday because I refuse to believe Homelander is younger than me when he looks ten years older. (Google tells me that Antony Starr is actually seven years older than me so not far off!).
 
It's not really my sort of thing (too much violence, too depressing, etc.) but I was curious and watched a few episodes and then I got hooked on the characters and the story and binge-watched the first two seasons. Then in the middle of one of the episodes early in the third season I just suddenly burned out. I was done. I realized that nothing good was going to happen (if it ever was going to happen) until a lot more awful things had happened first, and I didn't feel like I wanted to stick around for those.
 
The biggest mindef was revealing the Homelander being Soldier Boy's son.
I didn't expect that either. In retrospect, I should have noticed their psychopathic similarities.
 
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Kevin smith spoke about the Boys and told that Anthony Starr should receive an Emmy for playing totally effed up supe so brilliantly that "you'll love to hate him."
 
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Holy **** balls!

I don't know where to begin, what to say, who to refer first, but I can tell you that I was screaming at my screen while Annie was charging up to "BLAST IT! Don't bloody wait, GO! EF HIM UP!" But I should have known, nothing can kill the baddie. Not in Garth Ennis universe, and I should have remembered that from the Preacher.

Yet, somehow I know that we aren't at the real final. Not yet, not even if Butcher has been given a clock and Annie has finally ditched her uniform and joined the Boys. It all feels as if there is something even more and the writers were somewhat restricted on the level of absolutely madness they can unleash. Still, the series should get some sort of recognition for breaking the superperson rules, and showing the world how it could really be, in this world of ours.

It also didn't surprise me that Homelander sympathizers were accepting on showing his murderous side. After all, some of us are animals. But I wish MM's girl would have been seen the step daddy being the first to cheers the act. I suspect that geezer is going to get what's coming at some point in the future.

Still, I'm kind of winded up by all that happened in the final, and in someways it feels about that they reached GoT level of terror, by showing how unrestricted Homelander ... well, his whole family from son to grand daddy really is, because there's nobody to stop. Except the Boys, who too feel that unrestrictness of what they do.

What surprised me was that there was no footage, no numbers, nothing on the level of casualties from Soldier Boy going nuclear amongst the skyscrapers. The blastwave, shrapnel, the falling debris should all have counted for something, but it was like a miracle that nothing else than Maeve losing her powers (for how long) really happened.

Nevertheless...

Bravo (y)
 
This series functions well as a satire on superheroes and politics.
Like Preacher, it requires a high tolerance for graphic violence. The show could tone down the blood and gore and still make its points.
I was surprised that both Maeve and Soldier Boy survived the blast. It seemed to be the conflict outcome we were meant to think it was. Both characters could be beneficiaries of the show getting a fourth season.
The same goes for Homelander. I'm with @Mouse on wanting to see him gone, but he's such a well-developed supervillain he'll probably last as long as the series -- or as long as Antony Starr wants to play the role.
I expect much of the next season to focus on whether Homelander will turn Ryan to the dark side. Adding nurture to nature may give Ryan a very slim chance of not following in his dad's footsteps.
 
Just finished season 3 and it's wide open for season 4. Visceral but a truly great show.
 
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I was surprised that both Maeve and Soldier Boy survived the blast. It seemed to be the conflict outcome we were meant to think it was. Both characters could be beneficiaries of the show getting a fourth season.
Well, I think they were prepared to wrap the season, as you know you cannot say you will make it to the next one. So, they could have done other endings and finished the thing with Homeland going serial killing everyone, or getting finally shown place by the surviving heroes.

Preacher most certainly went through that several times, and it wasn't guaranteed that they'd finish the run. But at least they did and from the articles that I read, it became quite clear to them around the halfway point that there would be another season. So, the other ending ended in the editing room floor.

I think with the Soldier Boy they had to put the bad man back into the bottle, because he was just too much, and next to him Homelander seemed almost like a good guy. Except they gave him enough of screen time to convey the feeling that wasn't the case.

There was also the line, when Homelander said to Ryan, "Come with me, son. We'll disappear into the world and nobody would find us..." and I totally believed him. DC's Superman has done it, Batman did it more than once in his grumpy moments, and in a way I believe that's what Homelander wants to do. To disappear and teach his kid the way how he sees the world, expect he gets caught by the lights and sparkle. By the fame and acceptance of his fans.

If it would not be there, and the people would turn their backs on him, he would either go to murderous rampage to get that feeling again, or then he'd grumble and shrink because nobody notices him. In a way, he would become a hobo supe.

Now he has everything. And that's corrupting him, because all that fame and acceptance enables his dark side, and since nobody is there to stop him, that corrupts Ryan. So far, in their bloodline, that has meant bad things, and we can blame Edgar for it, because he thought he could fix things with a new generation.

Chicken Salesman was wrong with Walter White, and Edgar wrong about making supes through application of serum V. Either case, they were both in the chem business and they both effed up royally. Yet, Edgar is still alive, and I don't think he has stopped anything. He gave up Vought too easily to just step back and enjoy his days for the man he presents.

I think Edgar wants Homelander to go full psycho, and him being there with some next gen stuff to save the day. Maybe he'll even have a fix for Butcher, by either turning him to a full supe or reversing it all back to human. Knowing what happened with the Preacher, I think full supe is more likely.

I also did wonder why Annie didn't offer V solution to Maeve, because it worked on Kimiko?
 
We love The Boys, which is an outrageously gross and often hilarious take-down of celebrity culture, social media politics and even, occasionally, superhero stories. But we have one request for The Boys season 4 – let the female characters be as flawed as the boys!

Of course, every character in The Boys is flawed in some way, because it’s just that kind of world. And thanks to a number of male characters from the comic book series who have been gender-flipped for the show, the TV version does have a decent roster of flawed or outright villainous female characters. But in season 4, we’d love to see just a little more in the way of character flaws for the two central comics-origin female characters: Annie and Kimiko
 
I sort of get what she's saying, but Kimiko and Queen Maeve are both deeply flawed. Kimiko's brutal and Maeve was a total alcoholic.
 
As season 4 approaches, albeit at a disabled snail's pace, The Boys universe has expanded with Gen V.
GEN V
is every bit as raunchy, outrageous and satirical as the original -- quite possibly more so. As such, it is not a show I would recommend for youngsters or "more sensitive viewers".
When this spinoff completed its eight-episode run in November, it had already been renewed for a second season.
 
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The boys makes you constantly think what if the Superman was sick? A mentally sick person. And the answer we'll see is the Homelander. A sick and twisted superperson. So much so that the CIA has tasked the boys to take care of the job. Expect, at the beginning the Homelander isn't the mark. It's the Presidential Elect, Victoria Newman. The woman whose power is to pop peoples heads.

Man, I just loved how Frenchie and Kimiko were to invade her election party, in order to get into her room to swap eye drops, leaving Billy to guard the door. The outside door, because he's done enough of bad things. And having the history with the Homeland, who also were attending the party wasn't ideal as the man owns only one suit. And he's living in it all year round.

Strange as it is, the man still uses a shower once and while, because you can clearly see him having a manicured beard and washed, trimmer hair. All while the Homelander is just perfect, except he's getting old and the first white hairs has started showing up.

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:LOL:

I have to say. Garth Ennis material never fails. It is always dark, grim and funny. Just like it was in the Preacher.

The strangest thing is the kid and Homelander being the father. Even though he's the least likely good father material, he's still trying in his own style, and when Billy encounter his son nicking icecream from Mum's hotel fridge, the Homelander isn't far from intervening. There is no way for Billy to get the son back. Not when the real daddy doesn't want it to happen.

They even showed the boy going to daddy willingly.

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So, because Billy's mistake of not staying on the door, Victoria Newman's daughter, went back to their room, instead of stuffing her face with icecream, the daughter gets back to room to encounter Frenchie and Kimiko doing the swap. She confronted the Secret Service detail, and then saw the pair in the bathroom, looking dodgy, and she couldn't buy the lie.

it was just too much for her. But then again, you can say that mum's and daughters are alike. And in this case,

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She's a real monster. And mostly invulnerable, like her mum. I mean Frenchie shot her and Kimiko punched her, and she was fine. Not even dazzled. Just like her mum when Hughie chucked a can of acid on her face and Billy put a round of 357 mag in her temple. They both took what was on offer and asked for more.

So, what's it about V that makes monsters? Technically, it's a super serum, but by the looks of things, it goes deeper into the genetics to make the impossible possible.

Another example of that is the Homeland and the boy. Except in the boys case, he hasn't manifested dad's psychopathic tendencies. But he isn't a good boy either, taken that he went to nick the ice cream instead of asking for it. Since Victoria's campaign was paying all of it. But Victoria daughter was straight out of from horror. And it wouldn't be a surprise is she turned up dead by Billy at some point.

After all, the man is all about ending the supe problem, even if he's old bosses at the CIA doesn't see him as the main tool. And that same thing goes to the Boys team, where Hughie is the only one who wants to keep him in the company.

It's just Billie's biggest problem is himself. He lives his one life as if it's going to end in any minute. And there's no end to it, because only Billy can stop himself, but that's never going to happen, because he only has a few months left, and he has a bee in his bonnet. The Homelander. His nemesis.

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As they say, the enemy of your enemy is your friend, Billy was willingly to do Victoria's bidding. All for the boy and all for the sweet revenge on Homelander. Except she asked Billy to stop Hughie from using the dirt on her.

Problems and solutions. In this time it became in the narrative, because throughout the series we've seen that Billy Buther is more of dad Hughie always wanted but never got. And in the time his real dad is dying in the hospital, Billy really pulls out the dad card and play it on the young man.

Is it because he cares, or is it because Mr Buther is a manipulative person?

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I guess that answer the question. On the other side of the coin is the Homelander. And while he's on murder trial he recruites a new person from the Vought team, because the boys aren't cutting it, and this time it's the smartest person on planet. A young black woman, who is more then willing to let the Homelander run his course, because she gets to play while being protected.

The sage makes Vought boys to murder Homelander the biggest fans in the green room, and then she starts a fight between Starlighters and Homelander outside the courthouse. All so that A-train could deliver the bodies in the middle of the chaos and make Starlighters look bad, while the Homelanders walk way with murders.

What a twisted little soup we are cooking at this final season. Man...

One question, why Butcher didn't go with the plan?
 
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Man, the title makes me to think some horrible, nasty things. Maybe they'll come during the episode, maybe not, but the episode opens up at A-train slinging drugs. Which is a weird thing, taken that V almost killed him. You are almost not sure what is happening until it's revealed that A-train is making a biography.

Yet, it's even weirder to see the Noir in set and hear him speaking, and then it's revealed that the Homelander couldn't reveal that he'd murdered the original Black Noir and under the costume is another guy. Most of all he doesn't get that he's supposed to be "a braindead maniac," and he's supposed "to keep the mouth shut."

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Hughie has mum problems, and he's still angry that Mum stepped out "when he was six years old." And now she's in the hospital, because she got a call, meaning that dad never went through a divorce and the hospital automatically notified the next of kin. More of so, Dad made a DNR and gave Mum the power of attorney. Everything is out of Hughie's hands, when it comes to his dad, and there's not much he can do if Mum decides that it's his time to go.

I don't think Hughie has the money to pay the hospital bills, since it's the American system, so Mum is a blessing in disguise. To be honest, I don't want Hughie to suffer from the hospital stress. So it's better that he's back in the gang, only to hear Butchers confession that he's on his way out. Permanently, as Mother decided to fire him from the Boys.

Ain't none of their lives easy. And personally, I'd have allowed Billy to stay. Even if Mother has a stronger argument on Butcher's liability.

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Homeboy :ROFLMAO:

Man, Sage said it best, "It sucks." The whole thing of Ryan being a sidekick sucks, and I really doubt he wants to be called that for rest of his life. "Ryan is the first natural-born superhero," Sage explained. "And his brand needs to reflect that. He's not one of Vought's lab rat freaks. He was chosen by -- faith, God, what... to be the one that saves the world."

It is a powerful statement, because Ryan could take down his father, in theory. And maybe Sage see his fate. After all, she's the one. But she doesn't claim to be an Oracle. But one thing she should have seen is that Homelander is a murderous *******, if he doesn't get his way, and he most certainly didn't get his way to be Ryan's dad in the Vought's advertisement campaign. For TV.

In fact, the Vought production team went straight into the plan and somehow Noir and Deep found themselves in middle of Ryan's advertisement. Which was hilarious, because all I'm seeing them now is yes-men. They don't have the balls to be real men and say Homelander what they really think about him and his company.

I know it's straight out of a kill request, but if they ever want to free themselves from the curse, they have to show some balls. Which Deep did to the girl boss, but that's a small step in the whole ladder of becoming a superbeing.

So when it came to the real thing, filming it on the screen, Homelander intervened and got himself into the scene, even though it was supposed to void of his precense, and he made Ryan to throw with all his might against 2nd story wall. That man should have never asked Ryan to use all his power, but then again Homelander should have followed the script, because now there's another manslaughter trial looming at the horizon.

Why is he making the boy a monster?

At the evening, while Ryan was feeling sorry for killing Koy, Homelander delivered "they are just toys" speech. It is as if the whole thing has gone in his head and he cannot think otherwise, because he sees himself as a god. But he's not immortal, as the age is getting him.

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In the meanwhile, Mother's team got tasked to track down Sage in a weird Vought right-wing conference, which included not only brainwashing but also Alex Jones lookalike contest. But the best part was Kimoko having PTSD flashbacks and then lying to French's face about how many ales she'd consumed.

Man, I haven't laughed so much for a while. :LOL:

It wasn't a surprise that they got nothing done in the conference, and at the end Butcher, a private citizen and not a team member, managed to get Mother to knock him on his bottom. All so that they could clear the air between themselves. I just personally don't want to see them ending up hating each other, but the truth also is that Billy is always asking for it.

So when it came to time to actually spy on Sage's meeting, Mother got French and Kimiko in a trap, where you'd have wished to have Butcher's involvement instead of relying on Kimiko to be their main damage dealer. I both loved and hated the fight scene, and when it advanced to a Jewish wedding in the middle, the Boys took me straight back to Preacher land. And having there a weird naked body double, "pink eye" was just a bit too much, until Butcher showed in the party.

Then it got proper good and supremely gory. Hughie told mum how he really feels, and Billy walked back into the office to hear Mother's thanks. Doing that made Billy to confess that he hasn't done right in his life. And that he needed Mother to be his partner for the rest of his life. However long that is.
 
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You cannot be without thinking, seeing from StarLight vs Homelander rally, the current US presidential race with tRump v Biden. Although sometimes it feels more like the people v tRump. You could even see it as democracy v dictatorship "I don't care about you, I only want your vote."

But that's the thing with Garth Ennis material. It's going to ruff up some feathers and bad feelings, depending on the case. Even though it's just part of artist vision.

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So the current team of seven consist, Sage, FireCracker, Homelander, A-train, Black Noir II, and the Deep. Plus Ryan. Since dear old daddy cannot leave the kid alone to do kid stuff. Instead, he has to be part of dad's murders and all that dirt. You have to wonder does he really understand the image of what he's making of himself and Vought's other supe's in the eyes of the world?

Sage confessed that FireCracker was her idea, because they're lacking on StarLight's attractiveness. But in StarLight's camp things aren't really turning that well, because she doesn't have Vough's money behind her, and another point is that her camp is made from brainy people. Not dump ef like the one that followed on FireCracker's propaganda, and though that they were all pedos.

The latest big case defamation ruling cost 83 million and change in the US judicial system. StarLight's camp could do a class action suit, and get their day in the court and probably even win it, since the Department of Justice doesn't hire idiots. Corrupt judges yea, but not idiots.

So it's no wonder why Butcher is still harbouring a murder plan on Homelander. He knows that ultimately the daddy-o will corrupt the son. And he doesn't want anything bad to happen to him. Hence, he hacked into Ryan's game and bled him to come to his place.

But back into Sage, it's intriguing how she's changing the company and Homelander's 'vision' through her acts, since the Chicken Sales Man left the building. I just don't think he'll be gone forever, since he isn't dead and the company is still running. But it's kind of sad that people like Ashley had to go, because her ego cannot take her being the company mascot.

I also loved that she dropped the Disney interest and the girl boss line.

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:LOL:

So for once Kimiko is sober and she managed to track down her old terror cell, because Hughie has made her a "CIA hacker." It cracked me up, because Frenchie was highly against Kimiko going in to clear some air. Not that he's the best judge on bad ideas. Taken that he couldn't even say no to the sausage, even though his intentions were real.

What Colin is going to do when he finds out that Frenchie is the real bad guy?

Kimiko was having no of it. She even spelled that there was no other choice, because she asked. But we men, we never listen, do we?

The best part of their infil mission was Frenchie tripping through his eyeballs. Of course, like Kimiko, he laid about his true condition, "It's just little hallucigen, no?" he stated. Then they went into a fight scence and Frenchie started seeing all sorts of things. Stuff that shouldn't happen.

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Floating rubber ducks aren't real. Yet, to him, they were nothing but... In fact, the next thing he started hearing voices, and his mind was competely overtaken by visions of dead people. Instead of us enjoying the fight. Maybe it's a good thing, because we the pair is alike. They are both in need of a long holiday, somewhere far away from everything. Including drugs.

Yet, I don't think that will ever happen, because they are stuck on Homelander mission. And coming out of it, one way or another, is going to be a traumatic episode. Only we are not going to ever see it.

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It's interesting Mother is flipping A-train, Butcher his son, and Sage one of the StarLighters. It's almost like a circle. Maybe even a theme for this episode. One Homelander was flipped completely and murdered StarLighter before she was able to tell what she'd done. He didn't even care about the truth, or the body as turned around and marched out of the office, whereas Mother and Billy were successful on their missions.

When the next leak happens, there is nothing Homelander can do or say, because we know that he didn't get the right suspect.

It is as if he just doesn't care. Nothing can touch him. Supposedly.

Yet, somehow, he has to follow Sage's wishes, even if never listens. Just like in the ice ring, where Sage tried to flip Victoria to their camp, instead of going incognito to the Oval Office. Not that it's going to be an easy task, if the word that Victoria was in the ice ring on the time, when Homelander murdered a punch of his own people, reaches her campaing office, she can kiss goodbye on being a VP.

Homelander just doesn't get that there are many ways to fight the war. He's not even patient and understanding with his son.

Well, how could he, when he's actually schizophrenic?

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The sage makes Vought boys to murder Homelander the biggest fans in the green room, and then she starts a fight between Starlighters and Homelander outside the courthouse. All so that A-train could deliver the bodies in the middle of the chaos and make Starlighters look bad, while the Homelanders walk way with murders.

I thought it was interesting that the smartest person on the planet decider to act as instigator, when there had to be a dozen cameras on those crowds. It's going to look plenty sus when she joins the Seven and takes a seat next to Homelander.
 
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