I argued once that the Ford Mustang is a product of nature.
The argument becomes clearer when one looks at houses. Birds nest, mud hut, wattle and daub, log cabin, stacked stone blocks, tudor beams, Meis van der Rohe. It is a linear advance. Where do you cut that l
Apologies if this has been said before but I've only just noticed this thread and currently do not have the time to go through it all.
So some have complained that the AI (never mind that it's not really) is just being fed many other artists work and producing new work based on that (and prompts from the user), and that this removes the right to call it art. It could be argued that student studying art are shown the works of many other artists and analyse the techniques and styles those artists have used to produce that art. Their work is inevitably influenced by this studying, and, aside form the occasional true masters (never mind who decides which ones those are), most will end up as, let's say, jobbing artists. It's only the very occasional one that gets major recognition and the big prices that goes with that. But that does not mean they aren't artists producing art.
There are many new technologies that were initially condemned as not art, photography being the obvious example but also things like film compared with theatre, who's to say that this isn't another such example.
my point exactly...... It's a shame that it would appear humanity is losing its touch with nature and its origin in that nature and also not taking responsibility for its part in altering nature with its artefacts and inventions, (which on the one hand is a form of chaotic creation in the same way that nature for example combines various individuals from species to create new ones with ever so slightly different characteristics which aren't always predictable), especially in cases where it's harmful to humanities' own existence?....
I sometimes think that the kneejerk response to new forms of "creation" that many call artificial is simply a healthy interjection of: let's think this through first and attempt to rejoice in 2020 present-sight rather than regret in 2020 hindsight?...
AI in my opinion is also a tool like any other... and may be used for creating "works of art" or making it pointless to ever again say: "that that person worked hard to get that good and should be credited for it..." thus perhaps devaluing all AI "art".....?
