Pug Vs Thomas

[Joel007]

Valheru vs Human? Tomas.

Although i don't think either of them would kill the other.

 

[kyektulu]

Well since the end of A Darkness... Tomas lost most of his powers when the Valheru were banished, I would most certainly say Pug.

I prefare him to Tomas anyway, i dont think Feist really got a affinity to that charecter and the reader when he became 'Ashen Shugar'.

 

[Joel007]

Doesn't ashen sugar sound like caramel?

 

[Faceless Woman]

Mmmm. Ashen shuger! Get some ashen Shugar at the popcorn stand!

On topic, Pug is immortal. Immortal = cannot die = cannot lose in fight. Sorry Tomas / caramel.

 

[Arutha]

pug in a heartbeat, pug has the power of two worlds, and i think thomas knows this because he is always ready to follow pugs lead. also we know this because feist very clearly makes pug the greatest magic user on midkemia. If thomas was stronger pug wouldnt be asked to do everything involving magic or demons or whatnot.

 

[Talnoy]

I don’t think you can compeer the two one is a master of the sword the other is a wielder of magic both extremely dangerous in certain situations. Tomas has a lot of power as well, so my vote swings in his favour.

 

[Arutha]

true and i think if thomas just out of nowhere wanted to kill pug he could, because he is quicker, but put them in an arena and match them up and pug could put so many defenses in place its rediculous, not to mention the fact that he actually seperated Macros from the mind of a god. Not easy to do and i dont think thomas could do that

 

[AliOne]

I would have to say Pug because he is constantly learning and evolving his magical powers to combat the next threat thrown his way and if you remember from the krondor series Tomas was floored by a poisoned Tsurani arrow he wasn't dead but he wasn't a hundred percent either.

 

[Arutha]

true but that would go the same for pug, pug isnt invincible

 

[Nakor]

I would say Thomas. Remember he has in the past supprised Pug by what he is actually able to do.

 

[N3croscope]

Has to be pug, against Thomas or Nakor, Have to agree with Winters Sorrow tho - Macros - would take em all - together if need be - Black Magician rules

 

[ilthaniel]

I guess it would be Thomas, seeing that one of his power gives him controll over dragons. It would take some preparations to do it if he would ever plan to attack pug, though...

 

[Just_Ice]

After Pug ,Nakor and Merinda started the Conclaive Pug has become much much Stronger than any one could have thought possible.I Would go with Pug without a dought

 

[woodsman]

hey everyone,
Um after Magician and before the Sethanon debacle Tomas would defeat Pug, as Ashen-Shugar he was counted the most powerful Valheru and Macros in his prime states 'there is no single being save the gods who could oppose him [ a Valheru]; except myself of course, but even at my full powers i could only survive... not vanquish them' Macros was more powerful than Pug by far.
Since Sethanon probably Pug.

 

[Fat DeMon]

tomas in his prime would have been a tough match for pug at his best, and being a dragon lord could have got a dragon (one that can do magic), then he would be like invincible

but after the lifestone hes lost alot of his powers, so pug would snap him

 

[Nakor]

I like to think Thomas would win. He seems to just know certain things and have certain abilities that basically are magical.

 

[woodsman]

Tomas did have great abilities however he looses them - A darkness at sethanon & rage of a demon king- with his valheru powers he would defeat - one-on-one anyone in the universe, only the aal (?) stood before the dragon host, all other races were defeated/destroyed or cast out of the known universe.

 

[fingy773]

its simple if it was a melee fight it would have tomas would win but if tomas had to run in to fight pug would win (i voted 4 tomas)

 

[lapis star]

Hmmm two youngish looking old farts in a battle? I dont think Tomas or Pug would ever get into a fight at this point.If they did Pug would put up a shield around him,and Tomas would bounce off,and the two friends would probably just start laughing at each other.

 

[Kulgan]

WhileToms is a formidwble opponent, I think with the range of magick Pug has at his disposal, he could at least 'bind' Tomas in some way to render him innefective, so my vote goes to Pug.