The Dragon Has Three Heads

[stonStark]

I remembered that guy's name: Brown Ben.

 

[Orys Baratheon]

I lean towards the theories that the riders do not necessarily need to be Taragaryan's in blood, but might just be husbands selected by Dany's or something along those lines. Wasn't there a prophecy about her being betrayed several times? I know of few of those betrayals have all ready happened, but perhaps they relate to the three heads.

While I won't dismiss the R+L=J theory, it is made rather clear that Jon has stark blood in him many times. This is possible under the theory, but I'd lean towards him being Ned's actual son since it has been mentioned that he looked very much like Ned.

I think Tyrion is definately the son of Tywin and his wife. Tywin hated Tyrion because he was his son and because he not only killed the wife he loved, but because he came out a deformed little dwarf.

 

[Weasel Soup]

Only 1 or 2 betrayals happened (I think 2 dont quote me) but Dany is growing more clever and more unique as a leader.

That being said she will never have westeros.

 

[Faceless Woman]

Jon looks like a Stark. That could be Lyanna as much as Ned.

And I sort of agree that Dany will never have Westeros. GRRM keeps showing us the difference between honour and right. It would be honourable for Dany to have the Iron throne, but right is something else, I don't know what.
I think this whole crowns thing is a red herring, or at most a metaphor for the deeper troubles facing Westeros, the others. Magic will become more and more important as the series continues, until everything else is forgotten.

 

[Werthead]

GRRM has said that the level of magic will rise a little further in the series than exists at the moment, but it will never reach the stage of people running around flinging fireballs at one another. So even at its 'highest level' in the books, it will never be the most important factor in the books.

 

[Faceless Woman]

That depends what you mean by important. Important and obvious are not always the same thing.

 

[stonStark]

Magic is already important factor in the ASOIAF. Is it most important….? How can you define that? What is now most important factor in the book? It depends form whose POW are you looking, and even than it is hard to tell.

 

[the smiling weirwood]

The most important thing is the story. The characters. The heartbreak, turmoil, love, all those things of a conflicted heart.

"It's still the same old story, a fight for love and glory, a case of do or die."

It's not about politics, or dragons, or undead, or good against evil, or fantastic sex, it's about people. Whatever awaits for Dany and her dragons will come from that, not blood or magic or deeds of property.

 

[TK-421]

or fantastic sex,

SW: Bang on the money on your assessment of what it's really all about...but I am curious whether or not you got hold of an X-rated version of ASOIF.

 

[the smiling weirwood]

You can just keep wondering....I'm not smiling for nothing, you know.

 

[Faceless Woman]

WW, that's sort of what I meant, almost. That the story isn't about property, or who wins the throne in the end. I think people focus way too much on that. It is important, but so is what is happening at the wall.

 

[Donkey!]

hi, new to the forums, read all the books though (best books i have ever read - hands down)

uhm...how about two of the heads are dead. as in dany's brother and the ol maester from the wall...or is that too silly? i havent gotten into all the "Jon is a Targaryen" talk, but i dont think he is, as far as i can see, the last 3 targaryens were(are) the ones above...

 

[Aegon the Unworthy]

tee hee....pull up a chair Donkey...grab yer beverage of choice, and await the barrage...

Ill sit over here and watch whilst I chortle.

 

[TK-421]

Especially with that avatar

 

[Boaz]

Hasselhoff is a Targ! It is known.

 

[Aegon the Unworthy]

If no one actually throws monkey poo at Donkey! its not actually a barrage, so please dont make a liar out of me....

So to quote one of those Kid Movies...."If you have any poo....throw it now"

 

[Boaz]

Welcome Donk.

I'm too tired to retype the whole argument for Aegon. If you want the arguments for R+L=J then read the following threads.

These are about Jon's parentage.

http://www.chronicles-network.com/forum/34062-who-knows-about-jon-if-r-l-j.html

http://www.chronicles-network.com/forum/4246-spoilers-theory-on-jon.html

http://www.chronicles-network.com/forum/4619-spoilers-a-new-theory-on-jon.html

http://www.chronicles-network.com/forum/4687-valyrian-blood.html

This deals with Rhaegar.

http://www.chronicles-network.com/forum/10070-rhaegar-for-the-sake-of-discussion.html

Good Luck.

 

[Faceless Woman]

I can't beleive no-one realised this, including me. Jon has to be Ned's son, because he has Ghost. The direwolves aren't just for Starks, because else Ned would have had one. They are for Ned's children.
Ghost is albino because Jon is not 'trueborn'.
Still a chance he's Lyanna's, but I'd be very dissapointed if he were, and certainly not Reagar's.

 

[Florian the Fool]

Ghost is an albino. White hair, purple eyes.... Sound like anyone else we know of?

 

[Faceless Woman]

Red eyes. Red is not purple.