[Spoiler] The Blackfish

[Sword of the Morning]

So the Blackfish is out and I have been thinking where could he have gone.

1. Back the Vale- He was the keeper of the gate i think. The distance is not so great to travel. But does he know of Lysa's death?
2. The Wall- Two men of his, the blacksmith and some other guy took the black. That is a bit odd. It be nice for Jon to have some family around him. But distance is a bit troubling.
3. Across the narrow sea
4. Outlaw causing trouble
5.The faith

These are a quick ramblings from me in class. Any thoughts?

 

[Winters_Sorrow]

To me, I think the most likely destination is the Vale for a few reasons;
a) It's the closest help available (I don't think you can trust outlaws to help - especially as they seem to have gone completely rogue!)
b) He probably still has allies/friends there who can help/hide him from the Lannisters
c) If he has heard of Lysa's death, he may be considering approaching the new 'Lord of the Vale' for assistance (depends if he knows how much Petyr has done for "the other side" or not!)

I can't see him going to the Wall primarily because right now there's a host of Northmen, Iron Islands and who knows what else between him & that goal!
And he seems too pragmatic for the Faith

 

[Culhwch]

I wouldn't rule out his hanging around the Riverlands, organising loyal men and causing as much trouble as possible, or else waging a one-man war against the Freys (actually, that's highly unlikely, but one I'd like to see). But I think the Vale is probably the most likely option. I'm not sure, but I seem to remember Cat offhandedly remarking that Brynden was always there for her, Lysa, Edmure and Littlefinger when they were kids, so he might think to build on that relationship....

 

[Dolorous Edd]

Remember that when Jaime offered him the chance to the wall and told him that Jon was the new commander he was very suspicious, and asked jaime if tywin had arranged that. He also says that "catelyn never trusted him, nor theon greyjoy. It seems she was right about both of them." He won't have gone to the wall.

 

[Boaz]

Imo, taking the Black, becoming a monk, or sailing over the sea means that Brynden has quit fighting... First, that's totally against his nature and second, he won't quit this current fight until he's dead, he's won, or he's put in a position like Ned (forced to break his honor to save his daughter, but since the Blackfish has no daughter...). I think he's going to be a guerilla fighter against the Lannisters and Freys. If not, then he's gone to the North to rally support against the Frey traitors.

A remote possibility and one that we don't have any information on yet could be that Brynden is a Targaryen loyalist and that he's gone to join Dany. I think this extremely unlikely, yet I'll throw it out here just to provoke discussion.

Think about it, do we know the source of the fight that drove Brynden from Riverrun? Could it be that Hoster and he quarreled over joining the rebellion?

Question: If Brynden was against joining the rebellion, why did he not take up arms with Rhaegar?
Baratheon Answer: He was still loyal to his family. He might not fight with them, but he would not fight against them.
Targaryen Answer: Perhaps he did fight with Rhaegar and was pardoned by Robert. Robert was famous for his pardons and Brynden was Robert's foster father's uncle in-law. He did not go back to Riverrun to face Hoster's scorn after being on the losing side.

I think the Blackfish's one desire is to see three heads on spikes... Walder Frey's, Roose Bolton's and the Kingslayer's.

 

[Transplanted Steeler]

The Blackfish and the outlaws are in the same region. Tom O'Sevens knows that he's escaped and might alert the outlaws to search for him. Maybe he'll be reuinted with unCat.

 

[Dolorous Edd]

A remote possibility and one that we don't have any information on yet could be that Brynden is a Targaryen loyalist and that he's gone to join Dany. I think this extremely unlikely, yet I'll throw it out here just to provoke discussion.

Think about it, do we know the source of the fight that drove Brynden from Riverrun? Could it be that Hoster and he quarreled over joining the rebellion?

Question: If Brynden was against joining the rebellion, why did he not take up arms with Rhaegar?
Baratheon Answer: He was still loyal to his family. He might not fight with them, but he would not fight against them.
Targaryen Answer: Perhaps he did fight with Rhaegar and was pardoned by Robert. Robert was famous for his pardons and Brynden was Robert's foster father's uncle in-law. He did not go back to Riverrun to face Hoster's scorn after being on the losing side.

I think the Blackfish's one desire is to see three heads on spikes... Walder Frey's, Roose Bolton's and the Kingslayer's.

The argument was over hoster trying to get brynden to marry, and brynden refusing to do so. So i assume Brynden is homosexual, or just not interested in women or men.

 

[AryaUnderfoot]

The argument was over hoster trying to get brynden to marry, and brynden refusing to do so. So i assume Brynden is homosexual, or just not interested in women or men.

If I recall correctly, Edmure wasn't too keen on getting married, either. He just didn't have the Blackfish's backbone. I'm thinking that Brynden merely likes to march to the beat of his own drum.

I definitely think that Brnyden must have gone to the Vale. He managed to build himself a good reputation there, and would still have a place there, I'm sure. He must know of Lysa Tully's death, and probably figures that at this point, it may finally be possible to rally the troops there, now that she's not keeping everyone close. If he does go to the Vale, however, it could be Littlefinger's undoing. Brynden will almost certainly figure out who Sansa is, and want to either protect her or use her for his own agenda.

 

[ChasenFate]

Going to the Vale could be the Blackfishe's undoing...Littlefinger has a way to move the piece's in the game. Just thought I would throw that out for people to think over.

 

[Winters_Sorrow]

Brynden will almost certainly figure out who Sansa is, and want to either protect her or use her for his own agenda.

Did Brynden ever meet Sansa? He was 'exiled' to the Vale at the start of the war and, as I recall, only ever met Robb out of Catelyn's children. With her distinctive hair dyed black, will he question Alayne? Although, if she's the spitting double of Cat at that age, it's almost a certainty he'll recognise her, and that will set the "cat among the eagles"
Looking forward to how that one pans out

 

[AryaUnderfoot]

Did Brynden ever meet Sansa? He was 'exiled' to the Vale at the start of the war and, as I recall, only ever met Robb out of Catelyn's children. With her distinctive hair dyed black, will he question Alayne? Although, if she's the spitting double of Cat at that age, it's almost a certainty he'll recognise her, and that will set the "cat among the eagles"
Looking forward to how that one pans out

If Bronze Yohn can recognize Sansa after only one brief meeting, surely Brynden Tully can spot his own flesh and blood, especially one who bears a close resemblance to his favorite neice. Not to mention, Sansa's hair dye is running low...

 

[Dolorous Edd]

If I recall correctly, Edmure wasn't too keen on getting married, either. He just didn't have the Blackfish's backbone. I'm thinking that Brynden merely likes to march to the beat of his own drum.

Yes, but wasn't that because he was sure walder frey would pick a right mare for him to marry, just out of spite? When he actually saw his bride to be he was very pleased.

 

[hedgeknight]

I hope the Blackfish gathers loyal rebels and meets up with unCat and her ramble and in an act of utter loyalty to the Tully name, finally kills her (for real), cleans out the "trash" of the outlaws (keeping Thoros of course), and organizes a guerilla force that becomes known as Blackfish Raiders or the Blackfish Rebellion (or some other "geek" name like that).
Regardless of what happens, I hope he puts unCat out of her misery.
-g-

 

[Dolorous Edd]

I hope the Blackfish gathers loyal rebels and meets up with unCat and her ramble and in an act of utter loyalty to the Tully name, finally kills her (for real), cleans out the "trash" of the outlaws (keeping Thoros of course), and organizes a guerilla force that becomes known as Blackfish Raiders or the Blackfish Rebellion (or some other "geek" name like that).
Regardless of what happens, I hope he puts unCat out of her misery.
-g-

**** her misery! What about ours?!?! She's dead and she's still bumbling around and inadvertantly ******* things up! Brienne could be halfway to the vale by now, or Braavos, but nooooo Catelyn knows best....

 

[ChasenFate]

Catelyn knows best...Sounds like a title for a TV Show...Wait that was Father knows best sorry...

 

[Transplanted Steeler]

I think the Blackfish is gonna duke it out with Jaime.

 

[Boaz]

DE, keep up the anti Cat rants.

 

[cymric]

I have a radical thy about what blackfish is doing but I have very little support just a hunch really.

My hunch is that Blackfish did not run off alone and instead tookthe real Jeyene Stark (Westerling) with him to protect the Stark line.

I know several people have given me arguements to the contrary and it just may be happy thinking but I believe the stark line will not die out.

Some support for my theories
1.) the description given to us of Jeyene in the AFfC is contrary to the one given in Cats chapter in ASOS. By Jaime she is described as a very good looking young woman and yet Jaime finds her plain.

2.) The mother all but speaks for "Jeyene" in the interveiw with Jaime

3.) Endmure seems like he knows something, something that he would be willing to risk his parole on based on his uncles actions by letting him lose.

 

[Boaz]

I'll have to go back and compare ASOS to AFFC in physical descriptions of Jeyne.

If Brynden had a chance to save his niece's grandchild, the heir to the North and the Riverlands, I think he'd do it. Perhaps just like old Darry taking Viserys and Dany across the sea.

 

[Transplanted Steeler]

I'm digging this theory. I hope it's true.