Rhaegar's book

[Shacklock]

so he didn't get 'along' well with his sister and father. it is not like tywin pulled a sam. he still had jaime as well. his life as a son was fairly easy no matter how you look at it. especially being born dwarf. (in comparison to the comon that is)

i like tyrion, he makes me laugh, but i do get the bit about it being annoying that he goes on and on about all his misfortunes. so certain things where less then nice. that doesn't mean his life in the whole has been bad.

He's what we call Emo. Upper class but still whines about his crap life whole loads of people have it worse off xD

 

[Boaz]

Let poor Tyrion be a head of the dragon. Someone needs to cut him a break.

Ser Ilyn was scheduled to cut him.

viz, I'm on Kiwi's side on this one.

Yes, Tyrion was emotionally tortured by Tywin and Cersei. He never had a mother. Jaime betrayed him in his secret heart. His very life was threatened by Joffrey.

But Tyrion also had a big brother to defend him. A father who went to war for him. Wealth. Power. A tremendous intellect. Authority as the Hand of the King.

Is it incumbent upon someone else to find happiness and contentment for Tyrion? Who will this person be? How will they know it's their life's duty to make Tyrion happy?

Tyrion's joy of heart and peace of mind can only come from Tyrion.

Suppose when Jaime told Tyrion about Tysha that Tyrion said, "Oh Jaime, I know father's such a jerk. You must have felt immense pressure to comply and to never defy him. I probably would have done the same thing in your shoes." At that point Tyrion was beyond empathy, he was full of hatred and he gave into it.

Can Tyrion pull out of this on his own? I doubt it. He needs someone to show him love and trust. No one besides Cersei and Jaime owe him this kind of support... Cersei will never do it... Jaime might, but Tyrion would have to be very contrite.

Tyrion might find himself a girl... he might trust her... but then again maybe not. He is now full of malice and hate. Until he decides to try to rid himself of all his anger, he'll never find peace with another person.

Now, do you think with Tyrion's love of books that he will find Rhaegar's book in the Free Cities? What about Sam in Oldtown? Sam loves books and Aemon tried to put him on the right track.

 

[viZion]

I don't think his father went to war for but rather but rather because there's no way Tywin could stand the slight to his name. But that's really beside the point anyway .

Is it incumbent upon someone else to find happiness and contentment for Tyrion? Who will this person be? How will they know it's their life's duty to make Tyrion happy?

Heh, the only person qualified is GRRM himself. My comment about letting Tyrion be a head of the dragon was in jest. I don't agree that Tyrion had it made just because he's a Lannister but I'm really not trying to say he should be granted a dragon by GRRM because of it. There are plenty of characters in this series who get a raw deal.

My memory is a bit hazy about the exact details of Tyrion going to find Dany and this Rhaegar's book. I'm just not there yet in my re-read. I've heard rumors that Dany seems to be having trouble with her dragons (I haven't read the ADWD preview chapters). Maybe rather than getting his own dragon to ride, Tyrion shows up and teaches Dany how to train her dragons since he's read so much about them. Who knows? It could happen.

 

[Boaz]

It could. And I should admit that Tyrion is my favorite character. Personally, I'd love for him to find happiness and contentment, yet he is full of rage and he wants to vent!

 

[Koopa]

In the middle ages it was normal among the commons to immediately kill dwarves or other physically handicaped babies. This was less so the case among the higher born, that said Tywin could have easily killed Tyrion at birth, claiming he had died together with his wife because of problems during childbirth. He could have easily shut up everyone who knew differently. The fact that Tyrion as a dwarf is alive proves that tywin would only go that far in dealings with his son, regardless his reasons. Very much unlike sam's father. Personally i felt that when Tywin told Tyrion he was still planning on sending him to the wall alive and reasonable well, he was saying the truth.