Brienna's "Last" word

This is where I should've posted my original view on Brienne's last word, so I'll just say again...

I think Brienne has to say 'sword' and swear an oath to kill Jaime (seems like nothing less would/could satisfy Cat's 'frozen in vengeance' mindset. I like the idea that Brienne then breaks that oath, joining Jaime on the list of 'dishonourable' knights.
 
I think the last word Brienne says is "Sapphires" fwiw. Not sure why, but that's the first thought that popped into my head.
I was pondering the last word, and signed up here just to comment on it...but someone took my answer already :)

I agree with sapphires. GRRM brings elements of the story back for effect, like when the red woman says "you know nothing jon snow."

It was a single word "sapphires" that saved her from being raped.

In the telling, I think it will fall out by her putting some puzzle pieces together using the idea of ransom (sapphires). She will figure out that someone is holding Sansa for her claim to Winterfell, and puzzles out that it is littlefinger.

Sapphires by itself will not save her life, she will follow it with a rush of words. maybe "sapphires" followed by narrated thought, then "she is with littlefinger" or something.

Any other word would be lacking that dramatic effect.
 
Doubt that, Brienne isn't smart enough to figure that out.
She wouldn't even recognise Sansa with her dyed her...

1000th post....Not that it matters.... still i've post a lot on this forum :)
 
Doubt that, Brienne isn't smart enough to figure that out.
She wouldn't even recognise Sansa with her dyed her...

1000th post....Not that it matters.... still i've post a lot on this forum :)
hehe, you should post that on the "obsessed" thread
 
Lol, and what a post it was ^^.
Full of spelling mistakes... ah well, can't be bothered.
Please don't sue me...
 
Definitely not sapphires...

I just got finished rereading and boy was I wrong.

She tried sapphires, and got turned down. If it is a name, it has to be Clegane or Arya if it is to end up saving her life since she saw the big guy at quiet isle and stranger there, and she was told that Arya was with him at one time.

If it is not this, then I have no more guesses.
 
If the choice were to be between Clegane, Sandor or Arya, why would she shout either of those first two, given that their only significance is that they name a person who may know where Arya is?

Why not just shout "Arya" and be done with it?
 
I had to fight the urge to skip Brienne's chapters on my first readthrough, but on my second it went a lot better for some reason. And I didn't mind them at all listening to them in the audiobooks. Perhaps it's just better when you know what you're in for.
 
AFFC Spoilers Ahead...

Well, Brienne's POV does not further the "Game of Thrones" plot, the "War against The Other", nor the "What's up with Eddard's children?" plot. Brienne is trying to find Sansa and Arya, too... but we already know what's up with the girls, so upon first glance Brienne's story may appear to be pointless. I think all of us felt this way upon first reading Brienne's chapters, but I think her chapters clue us in to a few important aspects of the overall story.

First, Arya's POV in the first three books was the only one that really showed the lives of the common folk. Sure, we all like stories about dragons and kings, but Arya gave us glimpses of the effect of the Game of Thrones upon the populace. Jon's POV is fairly gritty. It deals with the common men on the Wall and the Free Folk, but the North is far removed from the Game of Thrones. Brienne's POV fills this gap. Her travels reveal the social unrest from Lord Tarly's occupation, the real economic struggles the small folk have, the fear of rampant lawlessness, and the religious movement of the masses trying to give some meaning to the social/cultural/economic upheavals.

Second, I think that atonement (or at least self-impovement), service, and self-sacrifice in the name of justice are major themes of ASOIAF. Eddard is the prime example of sacrifice... He sacrificed himself for Lyanna, for Jon, for Robert, and finally for his daughters. But mayhaps we've read Eddard wrong, mayhaps he is trying to atone for something...

Jaime is the best example of atonement in the story. His crimes are many; regicide, attempted infanticide, adultery, high treason (against two separate dynasties), murder, aiding and abbetting high treason, etc... I think he has the desire to repent, but will he go the distance? I could not say.

Davos demonstrates GRRM's theme regarding service. Eddard does, too, but Davos gives a fuller picture. He serves in whatever capacity is asked of him. He serves with Stannis' best interests at heart and not his own.

Brienne embodies all three of these themes. Atonement... She may not have commited egregious sins, but Jaime lost his hand on her watch and she has yet to fulfill her promise to return Catelyn's daughters. Plus, she's vitally important to Jaime's redemption plot.

Service... She is a sword sword of Catelyn Stark. She longs to prove herself and gain the social status and economic safety of knighthood, even if she never gains the title. Podrick Payne, as her squire, gives Brienne the opportunity to be in command of someone serving her... I think that's a nice twist.

Self-sacrifice... Brienne has not returned to the comfort and peace of her father's halls. She's fought and killed to fulfill a promise to a dead woman. She's been captured and hung.

Third, the theme of worth... the possibility of meritocracy... or at least everyone being "created equal" and "endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights"... comes shining through in Brienne's POV. Jaime, Cersei, Joffrey, Robert, Oberyn, Arianne, Theon, Viserys, and others are all good looking, if not down right paragons of beauty... yet they are all at least walking disasters, if not the devil incarnate. On the other hand, Tyrion, Brienne, Arya, and Sam (the Hound may get included on this list later, but right now he's a bad, bad man) are nothing to look at... some of them are down right ugly, but we've gotten glimpses of their characters... they long to do justice, they long just to be themselves, they tend to do the right thing over serving their own self interests (okay, so Tyrion does both when he can). Brienne's POV is there to show that people should be judged upon their merits, not their looks... Which leads me to the last purpose for Brienne's POV.

Finally, Brienne's choice in shield decor is the most obvious and tangible link to Ser Duncan the Tall. Not even Jaime's ruminations through the White Book nor Barristan's tales provide this. Only Maester Aemon's memories of Aegon help link the past with the present in Westeros.
 
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Well thought out Boaz and I am in agreement with 99.99% of it. You will start giving yourself a bad reputation with those kinds of posts. It must get lonely in those mountains of yours in Colorado.
 
Isn't Brienne a redhead? I think she might die and be brought back like all the redheads seem to be able to do and maybe lead the brotherhood
 
You will start giving yourself a bad reputation with those kinds of posts. It must get lonely in those mountains of yours in Colorado.
My apologies, I'd not yet partaken of any whiskey this morning when I posted... and I try to impress Brian when he pops into the GRRM forum.

We prefer solitude over lonely when describing the Rockies. It's a major draw for some folks.

And it's good to see whiskey in here... long time, no see. My impression of Brienne's hair was that it was stringy, dirty, and blonde.
 
I'm suspecting an error when changing the date on a one-day-per-page calendar somewhere in Colorado. ;):)









Any other explanation is just madness. :)
 
Thanks for the answer Boaz and the welcome back. I was trying determine who would be the next murdered and to come back from the dead. I am still leaning toward Sansa the only one without her wolf.

I just couldn't handle the longer wait so I thought out of sight out of mind, it worked time past surprisingly fast with the help of a few good books.... and a few terrible ones I did not finish. Also a few other important events in my life kept me from participating even though I lurked occasionally a Dad dying, baby born , selling house, buying new house, job transfer you know the typical mid-life lessons and trials.


Came across this today

[Bantam Spectra editor Anne Groell shows off the (enormous) finished manuscript of A DANCE WITH DRAGONS](YouTube - A DANCE WITH DRAGONS is complete!)
 
What if Brienne screamed "Tansy!" Both Brienne and Tansy are from southern cities, there may be something there. That would definately make UnCat pause...
 

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