Starburst Interview

[ShelbyS]

Originally posted by ColJ
I don't know why ppl are saying there's hostility between RDA and MS. I haven't read anything, in any interview ,that would even suggest that. They haven't said a bad word about each other. Just because MS mentioned that he hung out with CJ and AT alot doesn't mean he disliked RDA. RDA is a producer so he just doesn't come to work, say his lines ,and leave, like the rest do. Maybe he doesn't have the pleasure of just hanging out between takes. Perhaps ppl should just quit reading something between the lines that isn't there. :evil:

I have to agree with that.

We have no right to comment on the state of the relationship between MS and RDA. For all we know they could be friends or enemies. It is none of our business nor something that should be discussed between people who don't even know these two men. And we don't know them, we couldn't even begin to know them. We may feel close to them as fans, but we could never begin to know them as people, therefore we cannot comment on their feelings towards one another. This too goes for the relationship between MS and BW or the rest of the crew.

Magazine article writers can put a spin on things which aren't there just to create hype or scandle. It is not our job to read between the lines about everything to try and deduce what we think or believe is going on. We can all have opinions on the article, but I don't think it is right for us to imply things for which we have no evidence whatsoever.

MS is gone and this is sad for everyone, but we don't need to keep debating the reasons why he left, only that he did leave. Whatever happened to make him leave is irrelevant. We have to accept his decision and try and get on with it.

 

[summershake]

Originally posted by ShelbyS
We have no right to comment on the state of the relationship between MS and RDA. For all we know they could be friends or enemies.

I wasn't at Gateday in Frankfurt but some friends of mine were.
There was a question, somebody asking what he's gonna miss the most now that he's left. Someone shouted: "RDA!"
From his reaction it was obvious that RDA is someone he's not gonna miss (actually I was told he made it clear RDA's the last person he's gonna miss). I'm just telling ya what I've been told.

Fact is: He's gone, nobody can bring him back...he made a decision. Okay. I can live with that. But I can still wonder why and that's what I posted earlier.

Yeah, you have to admire he has the guts to say as much as he said. But like others I think that maybe that was harmful for his future career although I'm thankful he's being as honest as he is.

 

[DJA]

I agree

<<i honestly don't ever recall a specific numer of episodes being menioned. BW said somethign like 'the door is open for him to come back' but 'six episodes' is something i've only ever heard of on the SDJ site.>>

I think BW meant the "6th" episode of Season 6.
He told Michael last year that he had an idea of the story including the Daniel character.


<< as to the interview... i can certainly understand his frustration and disappointment but the general tone is so unflattering towards him.
i wish him luck in what he's doing but i guess it's a good thing he doesn't work for me because i personally see this airing of dirty laundry in public as very unprofessional.>>

I completely agree with you. I think Michael is a good actor, and I really wish his continuing success in the future. I sincerely think it is not good for him keep saying bad. He is a bit vocal.. well, too much vocal.

 

[Anni]

The very fact that this young man gives interviews like this invites comment from anyone who reads them.....and there will always be many who will.

At the Wolf con earlier this year, he made comments about many in the cast and was obviously affectionate about Don, Amanda and CJ...his relationship with them was apparently close and they are all obviously good friends. What was noticeable was a lack of comment about RDA. Now this might be because they are completely different age groups and different interests....however I always get the impression that their relationship is one of fairly cordial professional working type and not bosom buddies.

RDA does not strike me as the kind of guy who actually has lots of bosom buddies. Every interview or piece about him I have read indicates that he is quite a loner when it comes to people. I think his bosom buddies are his partner and his daughter and he quite simply doesn't have a need to include anyone else. And this is fine, there is nothing wrong with that. Lots of people are like that.....I am, up to a point.

This would probably mean that RDA isn't really close to anyone in the show and that his relationship with most of the actors and crew is one of a cordial professional working type. He probably doesn't dislike MS any more than he would dislike the others, and I imagine that to him, MS has a total right to leave it he wants to. It would just be like anyone leaving a job.....their decision and their call!

I also get the impression.....and this is ONLY MY impression....that RDA uses humour to keep people at arm's length and that says to me that there is an underlying shyness to his personality, which he can't help....maybe he thinks people won't like him if he's not funny.....lots of people are like that too. They are afraid of rejection so they think they will make folk like them if they make them laugh....everyone likes the comic relief sort of thing.

I don't know....these are all just my impressions and not necessarily reality. I don't think that MS and RDA are sworn enemies or anything....I think they are just working colleagues....MS has moved on and RDA is doing likewise.

But MS does need to stop spilling his guts like this. He'll get no extra kudos from doing it. And he may damage his reputation with both professional colleagues and his fans.

 

[skydiver]

i can understand how (IF IT"S LIKE THIS) RDA would/could keep folks at arms lenght.
from the interviews i've read, his daughter is number one in his life, and i can't fault him for that.

There is also another aspect, he's executive producer...one of the bosses (although i have absolutely NO IDEA how detailed his responsibilites are)...sometimes bosses find it easier to be bosses if they're not also drinking buddies with their employees.

Just a guess and supposition.

 

[Anni]

Sky.....my sons and grandson are number one in my life, but I don't have any desire to keep other people at arm's length. That's not much of an excuse for being inept at creating friendships.

As for the producer thing...well, yes he might of course feel that there should be a gap of some sort between him and the 'hired help', but to be honest, this is acting, there would have to be some emotional contact between them in order to create some sort of union with his fellow actors... It's not like the real military where there IS a real gap between ranks and there is a logical reason for it being there. The same with business I suppose.... a gap between the boss and the people who work for him.

I think people make too many excuses for this guy, without knowing exactly who he really is. And anything any of us say is just conjecture. None of us know the true story behind any of this.

MS should stop giving interviews like this one and allow everything to die a natural death. Instead, all he's doing is restimulating everything. I am truly sorry that he obviously feels like the wounded party and wants to have his say, but he really needs to stop. For his own sake.

 

[kelsi]

Wow Anni, good points!! And I totally agree!! I must admit, for the most of the interviews I've read of MS (and that's not many) it has only make me dislike him. I try to see what he's saying in a favourable light, but I can't help but think he's a little full of himself, and doesn't know what he wants, and therefore complains when he doesn't get it.

Interesting observation about RDA, probably very true!!+

But I agree, MS is doing no good giving interviews like that, I thought it said somewhere that he'd got a new acting job already? He should focus on that, and be glad of it!!

 

[Shadrak]

It's quite possible that MS gave all these interviews at the same time (before he was offered Abyss) - when the only topic up for discussion was the fact that he was leaving/had left. He possibly did not know how long the magazines would hold onto these interviews before printing, thus making his argument seem neverending.

I assume they will end...that he has stopped talking about it, and feels with his recent works in progress that he has moved onto better things. He quite possibly sighs with regret everytime he finds out there's another interview that's surfaced about what is now old news.

I too agree with Anni, about the RDA/MS relationship. We all have professional relationships with people everyday, and yet would not count these people as our bosom buds. With their characters having to work so close (as I assume they will do for Abyss) I doubt MS would return to such scenes if he really disliked the man.

Shadrak

 

[skydiver]

Originally posted by Anni

MS should stop giving interviews like this one and allow everything to die a natural death. Instead, all he's doing is restimulating everything. I am truly sorry that he obviously feels like the wounded party and wants to have his say, but he really needs to stop. For his own sake.

HERE HERE!!!!

and it's likely time to let conjecture about rda & co die a natural death as well. folks are the way they are for a reason, and it's highly, highly unlikely thatany of us will ever know the reasons so...speculating does no good.

 

[pamie]

Originally posted by Shadrak
It's quite possible that MS gave all these interviews at the same time (before he was offered Abyss) - when the only topic up for discussion was the fact that he was leaving/had left. He possibly did not know how long the magazines would hold onto these interviews before printing, thus making his argument seem neverending.

I assume they will end...that he has stopped talking about it, and feels with his recent works in progress that he has moved onto better things. He quite possibly sighs with regret everytime he finds out there's another interview that's surfaced about what is now old news.

I too agree with Anni, about the RDA/MS relationship. We all have professional relationships with people everyday, and yet would not count these people as our bosom buds. With their characters having to work so close (as I assume they will do for Abyss) I doubt MS would return to such scenes if he really disliked the man.

Shadrak

Some great points made there and I too agree.

What is it about Michael Shank that brings all all these bad feelings towards one another..reading over this thread all I can see are RDA fans and MS fans getting at each other!!
As people have said no we don't know these guys well enough to really comment on what goes on or if they are friends but of course we will want to know or even think about it and all we have to go on are these articles that pop up in magazines.
It seems to me that every time MS name comes up there is going to be trouble.
A few quite inocent (or so I thought) posts were made about RDA and MS and now its all seems to have got out of hand.
One day I wish to read a thread about Micheal and not have it end up this way!

 

[kelsi]

Originally posted by pamie
A few quite inocent (or so I thought) posts were made about RDA and MS and now its all seems to have got out of hand.
One day I wish to read a thread about Micheal and not have it end up this way!

Well, it's got to be something about him, nobody thinks the same of AT CJ DSD RDA or anyone when they give interviews...

 

[ShelbyS]

Originally posted by kelsi

Well, it's got to be something about him, nobody thinks the same of AT CJ DSD RDA or anyone when they give interviews...

I always find it hard to pin down what Michael is really like. Sometimes he does things that make my opinion of him change dramatically. Before I met him in person last year I didn't really like him that much. Like most people I was under the impression that he was kind of a snob becuase he never did conventions and all that, and that he didn't really care about the fans. Then when I met him, my opinion totally changed, he was a sweet, warm person who cared alot about his fans. Now, I'm afraid after all this stuff in the articles has reverted my position back to my original impressions of him. He seems to complain alot.

I really have no idea what he's trying to say or where he's coming from now. He'll say one thing and then say another that make his original feelings a little different. He confuses me immensly.

 

[neith4]

I'm glad to see the full version of this interview - I'd seen an edited version that made Michael look far more egoistic!!!

Sounds like Michael should be made the patron of that faction of fandom best described as people with VERY very very mixed feelings about certain policy changes and junior producers with a reputation for teasing shippers!!!

I wish I'ld been able to find an agent or to get BW or JM to respond in depth to prior business queries etc etc

one of my plot outlines would have given daniel a new reason to be with sg1 but allowed him more time off to explore and extend his options since he'd have to be on earth more often - they could have brought in corin nemec and had him and michael in alternating episodes or even teaming up ocassionally

michael if you're lurking to view the fan response feel free to email me - I know he probably willnt but you never know ??? -

I hate knowing I have script outlines sitting in my files that would have satisfied Amanda and Michael 's needs which will probably never get seen on screen even in the spinoff cos its impossible for me to move to LA to get an agent there - no funds and there's the finding an agent willing to take on a newbie without an intro thing

I know people are complaining about displays of temperament but its okay michael - us other "temperamental artistes" understand where you're coming from !!! Hang in there

with the amount of noise fandom is making they'll have to write him back into the movie at least ???

 

[pamie]

Originally posted by kelsi

Well, it's got to be something about him, nobody thinks the same of AT CJ DSD RDA or anyone when they give interviews...

I don't think its him at all I think it has a lot to do with the fans....there always seems to be a constent battle between MS and RDA fans/ Jack and Danny fans.
Sometimes its done in a joking way other times it get very heated in some I do like the heated dissucions but sometimes its all a bit too much and goes over board!
:rolly2:

 

[Rowan]

fans vrs fans

Uh ... being a serious fan of each, I seldom see disagreements between Jack and Daniel fans. Also, this is one of the more popular pairings, and I don't necessarlily mean slash. JD buddy fiction is a pretty consistant thing to find.

It looks like several interviews were done in/around the same time and just now being released. It does make things confusing when info dribbles out like that with no way of knowing the time and/or the sequence.

Rowan

 

[summershake]

Re: fans vrs fans

Originally posted by Rowan
Uh ... being a serious fan of each, I seldom see disagreements between Jack and Daniel fans. Also, this is one of the more popular pairings, and I don't necessarlily mean slash. JD buddy fiction is a pretty consistant thing to find.

It looks like several interviews were done in/around the same time and just now being released. It does make things confusing when info dribbles out like that with no way of knowing the time and/or the sequence.

Rowan

I also think that the interviews are a little bit older but have been published now.

What you said about the J/D fangroup is true. I too like stories about their friendship, they're in fact my favourite. But Jack and Daniel have nothing to do with Rick and Michael.
Like Pam said I too noticed that some fans of one of the two like to inflame fans of the other.
Sometimes it's just funny to watch, sometimes it gets out of hand.
I barely dared to post what I posted earlier 'cos I was afraid RDA fans would start serious insults. I'm glad that didn't happen and I'm glad to see some others here share my opinion about RDA.

 

[kelsi]

Well, don't know what this counts for, but I think that was only the second or third i/view with MS, and I think in all his interviews, he's seemed a bit ... off. But then, I think that the only interviews I have read were made after he'd decided to leave. (Admittedly, I did see one on a S3 DVD, and he seemed fine there). And RDA, I've only read one interview, and well, I ahd no porbelms with that.

 

[imported_space monkey]

i wonder how RDA and MS would feel if they read any of this or even more some of the very bizarre fanfics about them!

 

[Rowan]

Reading

I would imagine that they would get to see a copy of their interviews at some time.

As for some of the fic...

...well, Lexi made a comment at one of MS's 'Night' in the UK that she enjoys slash. And I guess she points them out to Michael on occosion. I know he was asked about how did he feel and his reply was, in effect: 'Whatever floats your boat."

Row

 

[Anni]

I rather think that if they read any of these posts, they would assume that it's just yet another set of gibberish written by this bizarre section of fandom...i.e. the online fan.

As for the fics, can anyone actually visualise RDA reading a fanfic? I certainly can't. I think Fishing Monthly or Hockey Times would be more his 'bag'! Or the cartoons in the Sunday newspapers.

MS now....well I can see him reading fanfic, but I think he would be quite choosy about what he actually read. I may be reading him totally wrong, but he strikes me as being a tad more intellectual than RDA anyway. Not that I am saying that RDA is stupid by any means..... Mind you, he's done a pretty good job at the Stargate version of Dumb and Dumber over the last couple of seasons.

Now RDA with his tongue stuck to an iced up pole......that I *could* imagine!!!

PS: Kelsi, I got your message and thank you, I will reply properly to it when I get a chance to sit down and spend some time on it!