Moral Support Needed Here...

imported_Marianne

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Not strictly Stargate related but it could be in a roundabout sort of way. Here's the problem - SG6 in October - 30 lbs + to lose - no willpower. I'm going to WeightWatchers tonite with a little trepidation. Any chance of a little virtual moral support from fellow Gaters? Tips, ideas, cajoling, threats all welcome. Thanks in advance.
 
Well i think i had better stick to the threats, seeing as i dont know what i could give for advice, u had better lose that ************************ weight;), besides its in ur best intrest;) :rolly2:
 
We are in the same boat, Marianne. Coincidentally, I just started my diet today, with the hope of losing about the same amount of weight by Gatecon.

I plan on buying something that I want to wear the cocktail paty or the banquet that is too small for me now. I'll hang it somewhere in my bedroom so I can see it everyday. I did something like that last year for a wedding and it work.

However, when Gatecon and the wedding were over, I was given a chocolate birthday cake, with chocolate frosting, and covered with chocolate syrup. No regrets! ;)

Good luck, Marianne! Remember, you're not alone! :wave:
 
I have the same problem 'cept i'm more focused on toning up than losing the weight. I'm going to SFX in May to meet MS (*squeal!!*) and i exercise everyday and whenever i think about not doing some sort of daily exercise i always remind myself of MS and it motivates me to do it (not that i exercise just 'cause i'm going to meet him, it's just a motivation boost for me)...

x x x
 
I think perhaps the thing you may need to bear in mind is the fact that you all should be doing this for yourselves and your health, whether Gatecon or Wolf are coming up or not.

It shouldn't matter what you look like if you are happy with who you are. If you aren't then its a different story I guess and the only person who can do it is you. My motivation for going to the gym, as much as I dread it every time I go there is my health. I need to exercise to keep my weight in check because I have to take permanent steroids to keep my lungs clear. I need to exercise because it helps the blood flow round faster and makes my damaged lungs work more efficiently, thereby helping my heart to work better.

My health is my biggest motivation..........what some bloody two bit actor in a TV show thinks is the last thing on my list of important factors of motivating me to be more healthy and look better. Like I really care what they think of me. If they're really as wonderful as everyone cracks on they are, and the few I have met so far haven't really come into that category, with the exception of Tony Amendola who was a charming and delightful guy, then they won't be caring whether you are fat, thin or indifferent, they will be accepting you all for the charming delightful human beings you all undoubtedly are!
 
Originally posted by Anni
I think perhaps the thing you may need to bear in mind is the fact that you all should be doing this for yourselves and your health, whether Gatecon or Wolf are coming up or not.
I made it a point to mention in my post that i wasn't doing it for MS but just using him as something to get my motivation stepped up a gear because i'm so excited about meeting him.
 
Thanks folks for your comments. I agree with what Anni has said, although I have set Wolf as my target date, it helps to have goals, and like she said I too don't give two hoots what anyone else thinks about me. I want to look good and feel good to help myself. Health is the one thing you can't do without, the last 6 months have taught me that. But that doesn't change the fact that I find it very difficult to do things on my own. Weight watching is a personal thing but help and guidance and encouragement from others is important, that's why I am going to go to WW meetings. I think I also need the motivation (or shame) of facing the scales and the leader each week. If I don't lose I will feel I have let them as well as myself down. I know it's a business for them but I am sure the Leaders put something personal into their meetings, they have been there themselves. Any moral support helps when you are feeling a bit down or feel to be failing can really boost you up. I just want my clothes to fit properly and I can look good. If you look good you feel good and that comes through in lots of other things that you do. I feel better now having said all this, I feel quite inspired to get on with it. You see its working already!
 
Motivation can be anything: the clothes in the back of the closet I can't fit anymore or my desire to get into a tight slinky number at this or any convetnion. Regardless of my satisfaction with my current state, the latter is my motivation for the moment. And after it's over, the piece of cake will be waiting. Chocolate, of course.

Marianne: just don't let any slip up keep you from going!

c'ya!
hya
 
Diets vrs lifestyle changes

I started the Atkins program a month ago. I will admit that weight loss by Gatecon is a goal, but I'm looking at what I'm doing as a total change in my life pattern, *not* a diet [to me a diet is something you go on and than go off again].

My family has a pretty bad medical history [heart, etc] and I've made the decision that I will change my eating habits now rather than wait until I *have* to because of a medical problem. I talked it over with my health care provider and he's in total agreement.

What I'm doing now I will be doing the rest of my life and when I look at it that way, it's actually easier for me. Of course, I've worked in the medical field for 30 years and have 'way too much knowledge of all the bad things that can happen. I really want to head all that stuff off if possible.

Marianne, I wish you the very best on this step.

Rowan
 
I've just started Atkins too! Only on day 3 and still reading the book (yeah, I know, I probably should have read the book first...) so still too early to tell really. I've lost a couple of pounds, but that's probably just water retention.

I lost over a stone on Slimfast last year, but I was worrying that it wasn't healthy in the longterm. I felt all the sweet shakes were bad for my teeth, plus I was making it with soya, since I can't tolerate much cows milk, so I was worried that was spoiling the nutrition. So, I've put some of that weight back on, wanted to lose more, so time to try something new.

I choose Atkins because I've met a few celebrities that look great on it (sorry Anni :D ), because I've been watching the diet trials programs on BBC and it comes out well on that, and because I've been working every Friday for months with someone who found time every week to moan that she's slimmed out of her favorite clothes and to make sure I was aware she was eating loads of cheese!

My reasons for sliming... even though I've never been massive, I have some health problems with links to weight. I've also never been really slim, and I want to try it! Just to go in a clothes shop and buy anything I want! I can always put it back on if I find I don't like it. ;)

Having looked into it... I'm hoping the health claims are true, because there is a lot of heart disease in my family. A few years ago I took part in some medical research that involved finding out that my cholestrol and blood pressure were low. Felt great about that until I heard that that's true of my dad too, and he's had a quintuple heart bypass and several strokes...

From losing weight before, I'd say remember every little helps. If you lapse occasionally no big deal as long as overall things are averaging out better. I also found exercising really was a key. I hardly lost just on the shakes, but if I exercised as well it came off. Firms you up too of course! And snack... in whatever way your diet allows!
 
Key points I have learned...

Okay - right up front: Everyone's body is different and what works for me may not work for you. Before you start *any* diet, check with you medical professional. Atkins seems to be doing it for me and both my nurse practioner and MD are happy with my doing it. I know Weight Watchers works great for some. Smae with Slim Fast. The *key* to any diet is 'behaviour modification'. Otherwise, you'll go off it and yo-yo your weight around which, in the end, can be worse for your health than the weight was in the first place.

The key points I've found over this last month [with Atkins or any diet]:

1: Any exercise is good. Right now I'm fairly limited becasue I blew my right knee out a week into the program and now have a brace on it - so much for my retaking up folk dancing right away.
:( But I walk the hallway in my apartment building several times a day. Even walking around outside for 10-15 mins. three times a week is a start. And it gets you out of the house where you can fall into the 'snack zone'.

2: It *is* better to eat several small meals a day if you get hungry fast. I keep hard boiled eggs and pre-sliced cheese in the fridge along with a can of olives [all things I can have during 'induction' - the first phase of Atkins] and if I get the feelig I'm hungry, I grab something than before I *do* get hungry. I found I really eat less over the day.

3: Quality is better. I'm lucky with this. My local grocery prepairs just about all their own meat [an oddity in the US] and use things like ground chuck roast for their ground beef. Very little fat and pretty good flavor even cold. If you buy cheap products, there's a good chance there's a lot of filler in them. I can't stress enough to read lables.

4: "Low Fat" isn't always the best product. To make something 'low fat' and still taste good, a lot of companies add sugar and extra carbohydrates. You may not get the fat, but the product may not be any better for you. This is *especially* important on any 'low carb - high protien' diet like Atkins or the diabetic exchange diets. Read. Read. Read!

5: For us Atkins folks - get the ketosticks or your equivlent. You need to know that you are spilling ketones in the urine and not just water weight on the scale. You don't have to check every day, but you should check a couple of times a week. I tell the local pharmacist I need them for dieting and not becasue I'm diabetic. He finds me the cheapest cost.

6: A good scale and a tape measure. Talk about positive reinfourcement! :D Seeing that first inch disappear from chest, waist and hips in that first week along with my weekly weigh-in was a major boost. Now I weigh and measure once a week - no more than that - and it's nice to see the trend.

7: Accept that you'll slip-up. This is not permission to binge off the diet, just the acceptance that you're human and if you blow it, not to drop the entire project. I was baking scones for my husband [I love to bake and this was a *bad* thing for me to do] and made only a small batch of 4 with dried cranberries in them. I held out for about an hour and then made off with this poor little maybe 4 ounce scone. Took me probably 20 minutes to eat the thing, I savored every bite. And that's been it for these 4+ weeks. It happened. I moved on. I also don't bake anymore right now. ;)

8: Peer Group Support. A family member, a friend, a group - anyone you an talk to when you need a boost or to touch base with. Ultimately you're the one doing the work, but it's nice not to feel all alone out there.

Hang in there folks. We will survive. :D

Rowan
 
Just wanted to let you guys know that I think what you guys doing is great!

I also wanted to just give you a little personal experiance of the Atkins diet..
my father has been on this for over a year now, it worked great for him and he lost over five stone in just under a year but please make sure that you follow it right! It the start of the diet you have to cut out the carbs all together and then start to bring them back in to your eating plan. My dad didn't do that..he was so impress with the weight loss that he never did introduce the carbs back into his eating. This cause him to beocme very ill, tired and forgetfull (although sometimes I put that down to his age *g*)

So I just ask you to follow the plan as it said in the book and I hope you will be ok.
Im pleased to say that now he is eating more carbs he is feeling better but it was a worry all the same!

:D
 
Thought anyone who wasn't able to watch it might like the lowdown on the BBC's 'Diet Trials' program which finished last night.

They got several hundred people and randomly allocated them one of 4 diets and watched them for 6 months:

Atkins: high fat/protein and low carb
Weightwatchers: Points system and meetings
Slim fast: 2 meals a day replaced with shake/soup + sensible snacks and meal
Rosemary Conely: Low fat and exercise.

Their overall conclusions... All the diets came out pretty much equal after six months in terms of weight loss. The real deciding factor seemed to be doing exercise as well. Exercise also encourages loss of fat as opposed to lean muscle. Because it includes exercise as a part of the plan, Rosemary Connely actually came out the best (I think it was just on pure fat loss, rather than overall loss). So in the end, choose a diet that suits you and exercise as well!

Other comments:

Atkins was proved safe over 6 months, though they did say they had doubts in the longterm! It did reduce triglycerides. Chlorestrol levels stayed the same (but they didn't go into the different types). It gave the fastest weight loss in the first month. One guy lost 3 stone overall... but it turned out he lost a stone of lean muscle. Should have exercised!

Weight watchers was good for those who wanted a support system or who needed to fit in with their family's eating habits.

Slim fast tended to be a love it or hate it diet: Good if you are very busy and want grab and go meals, but not if you like the ritual of preparing food.

As already said, Rosemary was the 'winner' because of it's exercise program (the top dieter was on it), but I can't remember much comment besides that!
 
There was a fifth in the program: a control group who weren't no any diet. the scary part of that program was that my uni were the lead uni. did anyone see the giant ship biulding with UniS on the side? well that buildings on my campus. i get in hang out in there sometimes.
 
You all have my support ladies. I know that you can do it. You're Gaters. Gaters can do anything!
:D :D :D
 
Of course Gaters can do anything.

I've had to change the way I eat 'cos my blood pressure skyrocketed and it seems my cholestoral level's a bit high too.
My Dr. suggested I start slowly so that I won't be put off by thinking I'm "On A Diet" I started by not using salt in the cooking, then I bought Flora instead of butter, cottage cheese instead of real cheese etc.
When I walk anywhere, I walk a bit faster everytime.
At lunch time in college I eat salad instead of sandwiches and have a yoghurt instead of crisps, time will tell whether it works or not.

Just Make Sure You Eat Healthily

Good luck to everyone, we'll all support each other, maybe we should start a new thread for this, what do you think??

Sammy say hi :wave: to MS for me.

:D ;)
 
I think this thread is fine!

Meanwhile... you can't get ANYTHING deliberately low carb in the UK. LOL. Market there for anyone who wants to start a business!

I also went in search of Ketostixs, dreading they wouldn't be under that name in the UK (could be fun to explain what I wanted!). Luckily the first person I spoke to was really interested, and they are Ketostix ...


And This Is Me!!!!!!!!!!



:rain: :reyes: :rain:
 
Of course this thread is fine, me I'm a moron.
Will you please tell me what is Ketostix??

And please stay you, you look fun.
 
Ketostick

A Ketostick [brand name] is a small plastic 'stick' with a chemically impregnated pad on one end that is dipped in your urine. It detects ketones - chemicals that are produced when your body breakes down fat. On a low-carb diet like Atkins, you are supposed to be ketotic and this stick lets you know if you're doing it right - especially as you progress on the diet and begin to add different foods to it in small amounts.

Rowan
 

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