The Revived Tolkien Trivia

[farntfar]

One individual had given up thieving for 30 years because of that fear.
And that despite his family's reputation. (At least in some quarters.)

 

[farntfar]

Still no?
The one who gave up thieving had hairy feet.
And the "family reputation" to which I refer was really only his uncle.

No help?

 

[hopewrites]

Bilbo never married, so he cant be the hairy footed exthief.

 

[farntfar]

Bilbo was not the ex-thief. But you're very close again, Hope.
And it was one of the inspirers of fear (N°4 in the original question) who had a wife.

 

[farntfar]

And the "family reputation" to which I refer was really only his uncle.

I'm afraid I have been a little misleading (or indeed just plain wrong)
The relationship was not actually "Uncle" but rather "Cousin", though of a previous generation. (Not sure where I got the word uncle from to be honest.)
Furthermore neither cousin was married.

 

[Grimward]

Back after long absence...cogitating...

 

[farntfar]

One could imagine (with effort) that one of the three (or possibly all three) in the original question could imagine him(or her)self to be related to one(and only one) of the characters on the cover of the latest Tolkien book.
That the One of the original question might imagine himself related to anyone on the cover of that book is hardly likely.

 

[farntfar]

Still no?
In fact all the characters mentioned by me had hair on their feet, (except for 2 on the front of the latest book. Oh and, as far as I know,Tolkien himself(who I also mentioned in the previous entry.)).
Of the 4 in the original question only 1 had curly hair on his feet.

 

[Freydis]

Hello! I'm brand new to the forums, hope it's okay that I (try to) play along. I think I've understood the rules of the game, but I was wondering if I am allowed to put in my guess when someone else has already started guessing? Don't want to step on anybody's (hairy) toes, obviously

 

[farntfar]

Hello Freydis, and welcome to the Chrons.
I'm very pleased to see you're the kind of person that doesn't like to step on toes, but I think this question has been waiting to be answered for too long now. So I'd say go for it.

Hopewrites has been really close a couple of times, and generally speaking NOTHING gets past Grim, so it's just got to be my lousy clues.
If you can see through them, I'd be really pleased.

Far

 

[Freydis]

I've just been waiting to be able to press 'post reply' Here's to hoping I've actually managed to grasp what this game is about or this is gonna be a great falling-on-my-face moment to enter these forums!

Thanks Py.

Try this bit of nonsense verse I just made.

If one might hold
and one might bite
and one might howl
on a moonlit night

There’s one who holds them
in his sway.
Might that one
one day fly away
if once he changed to
the final form
that those named thus
reach as the norm.

3 of one and one of another. Can you tell what they are?

I loved this, very cleverly thought out.... I suck at riddles though and found the last part a bit tricky. However, the first part is a bit more straight forward I think.
Is it indeed Farmer Maggot and his three dogs; Grip (who holds?), Fang (who bites?) and Wolf (who howls?)

Not sure how to provide the right quote, but I picked something out of The Fellowship of the Ring - A shortcut to mushrooms:
'I know,' said Frodo. 'But all the same,' he added with a shamefaced laugh, 'I am terrified of him and his dogs. I have avoided his farm for years and years. He caught me several times trespassing after mushrooms, when I was a youngster at Brandy Hall. On the last occasion he beat me, and then took me and showed me to his dogs. "See, lads," he said, "next time this young varmint sets foot on my land, you can eat him. Now see him off!" They chased me all the way to the Ferry. I have never got over the fright though I daresay the beasts knew their business and would not really have touched me.'

I think this fits in with the clue about the x-thief (Frodo?!) and his family reputation (from Bilbo, "the burglar).

and another quote just after from the same chapter:
Suddenly as they drew nearer a terrific baying and barking broke out, and a loud voice was heard shouting: 'Grip! Fang! Wolf! Come on, lads!'
A quote proving Maggot to be the one who holds the sway?

Also, for the hairy feet... well, self explanatory really

edited for poor grammar

 

[farntfar]

Very good.
(I must admit I thought they'd all get it.)

just to show how much you really suck at riddles. Explain why

There’s one who holds them
in his sway.
Might that one
one day fly away
if once he changed to
the final form
that those named thus
reach as the norm

all points to Maggot.

 

[Freydis]

Argh, see that's where it got too tough for me, lol!

Very good.
(I must admit I thought they'd all get it.)

just to show how much you really suck at riddles. Explain why

There’s one who holds them
in his sway.

As mentioned above, I assumed this related to Farmer Maggot being able to command the dogs as he wishes (bar that time when the lovely Nazgul shows up and the dogs are nae keen to jump to his bidding).

Might that one
one day fly away
if once he changed to
the final form
that those named thus
reach as the norm

So this really didn't make sense to me, except if it is non Tolkien specific and more of a general word play over the fact that a maggot (the creature, not the farmer) turns into a fly and can therefore... fly away?

 

[farntfar]

Yes, I'm afraid that's all it was: just playing with the name Maggot.
So you've got it all.

A bell shaped mushroom to you.

(I don't know where the habit of giving bells as prizes came from. Best ask Grimward or Pyan)

And it's your turn now to ask a question. Check the rules on page 1.

 

[Freydis]

Yes, I'm afraid that's all it was: just playing with the name Maggot.

I thought it was very clever because I was so focused on finding Tolkien-related hints that I couldn't see past it and notice a word play Funny thing is, it took me a bit of a round trip to get there... English is not my native language, so sometimes I get words mixed up and it was actually because I was thinking of a butterfly rather than a fly.
Mushroom bell is obviously an added bonus - a shortcut to mushrooms! Nice.

I shall have a read through the first post and perhaps the first few pages to get a better idea on how the game runs, as I'm unlikely to be creative enough to come up with a riddle, but I'll try and put something up asap to keep the game going.

 

[farntfar]

Don't worry. Riddles are certainly not required.
The questions can be anything from very straight forward to very obscure, depending on the questioner and how they're feeling at that moment.
Look through some of the previous questions to get some ideas.

 

[Freydis]

Ok, I'm gonna give this a go, hope I can sufficiently challenge your minds!

Tolkien found an adaptation of the Lord of the Rings done by which person to be "silly"?

also, small disclaimer: I haven't read all the pages in the thread, so apologies if I am asking questions already covered in the past!

 

[Freydis]

I'm gonna give a hint to see if that can get things moving along.

He produced the adaption of Lord of the Rings in 1955

 

[Pyan]

Well... gi nathlam hí, Freydis!

JRRT calls the 1955 BBC radio adaptation a "sillification" in Letter 198: the adaptor was one Terence Tiller (letters 193,194), so is this the chap you had in mind?

Letters: 198 - from a letter to Rayner Unwin:

I think should find vulgarization less painful than the sillification achieved by the BBC

 

[Pyan]

(I don't know where the habit of giving bells as prizes came from. Best ask Grimward or Pyan)

It started in the original Trivia thread - that one was closed because of trolling. This here thread is the Revised Tolkien Trivia, which was started with slightly different rules a bit later. And the "bell" business was something that just started - people started awarding something extra to the person that gave the right answer. Wasn't only bells, at first, either - I remember Nesacat* being given tinsel, amongst other items.

*Nesacat is a long-time member, who still (very) occasionally pops in - like every three years or so...

And your memory is going, far: I explained this to you only three and a half years ago...

The Revised Tolkien Trivia