The Revived Tolkien Trivia

[Pyan]

I thought also of the Sceptre of Annuminas, which I thought was the same as the sceptre of the kings of Numenor.
But Annuminas is a city in Arnor where Elendil lived. So it can't be that, because Narsil would be older.

 

[Pyan]

Suggest you peruse the Appendices carefully...

 

[Keldaris]

It appears my gut instinct was correct! It is the Scepter of Annuminas!

"That of Annuminas was the silver rod of of the Lords of Andunie, and is now perhaps the most ancient work of men's hands preserved in middle earth. It was already more than five thousand years old when Elrond surrendered it to Aragorn" -Appendix A RoTK

 

[Pyan]

Spot on, Keldaris! Your turn...

 

[Keldaris]

What is the name of the tallest tower of Emyn Beraid? And what was kept there?

 

[farntfar]

This was the highest tower in the kingdom, from which wise old king Otto would ask princes to jump, and where he kept his emergency Rothmans.
He had got rid of any old stones he'd found there, along with unhappy people and the trade union leaders, long ago.

Or as they say in Sindarin, "Yah di buck'ty. Rum ting doo. Ni Ni Ni! Youw!"

 

[Keldaris]

This was the highest tower in the kingdom, from which wise old king Otto would ask princes to jump, and where he kept his emergency Rothmans.
He had got rid of any old stones he'd found there, along with unhappy people and the trade union leaders, long ago.

Or as they say in Sindarin, "Yah di buck'ty. Rum ting doo. Ni Ni Ni! Youw!"

You are incorrect.

 

[farntfar]

Indeed, Keldaris, I am incorrect.
Since this all relates to a Monty Python sketch called Happy Valley. (I'm afraid I can't read phases like Tallest Tower, without thinking of it. )

The tallest tower in the Emyn Beraid is called Elostirion and houses Elendil's Palentir.
Thither Elendil would repair, and thence he would gaze out over the sundering seas, when the yearning of exile was upon him....
from Of the rings of power and the third age, in the Silmarillion.

 

[Matteo]

And in that tower was Princess Mitzi who fell in love with Prince Walter at first sight and after a time (well...a few times anyway) he fell in love with her. And after he completed a grave and perilous task (well...going to local tobacconists to get 20 Rothmans) they were wed.

Classic stuff!

 

[Keldaris]

Indeed, Keldaris, I am incorrect.
Since this all relates to a Monty Python sketch called Happy Valley. (I'm afraid I can't read phases like Tallest Tower, without thinking of it. )

The tallest tower in the Emyn Beraid is called Elostirion and houses Elendil's Palentir.
Thither Elendil would repair, and thence he would gaze out over the sundering seas, when the yearning of exile was upon him....
from Of the rings of power and the third age, in the Silmarillion.

Correct!

And I am now very disappointed in myself for not recognizing a Monty Python reference... I actually went looking through my books for a reference to King Otto as I was very confused by your answer

 

[farntfar]

No worries, Keldaris. There will doubtless be other Python references to come.

Meanwhile:
What might sound worse than wild cats and wolves being roasted slowly alive?

And a bonus python point for Keldaris if you can tell me whence (*) came Princess Mitzi Gaynor's teeth?
(* I nearly said "from whence", and then I would have had Chrispy and the gang down on me like a ton of bricks. )

 

[Matteo]

And I am now very disappointed in myself for not recognizing a Monty Python reference...

Don't feel too bad; it was only on one of the LPs - not in an episode.

Now, I must track down that version of Njorl's Saga that Christopher Tolkien found recently in some of his father's notes...

 

[Pyan]

'Just at that moment all the lights in the cavern went out, and the great fire went off poof! into a tower of blue glowing smoke, right up to the roof, that scattered piercing white sparks all among the goblins.
The yells and yammering, croaking, jibbering and jabbering; howls, growls and curses; shrieking and skriking, that followed were beyond description. Several hundred wild cats and wolves being roasted slowly alive together would not have compared with it.'

The Hobbit, Ch. IV, "Over hill and under hill"

Gandalf rescuing 13 dwarves and a hobbit from the goblins under the Misty Mountains....

 

[Pyan]

(* I nearly said "from whence", and then I would have had Chrispy and the gang down on me like a ton of bricks. )

Oh yes...

 

[Keldaris]

No worries, Keldaris. There will doubtless be other Python references to come.

And a bonus python point for Keldaris if you can tell me whence (*) came Princess Mitzi Gaynor's teeth?
(* I nearly said "from whence", and then I would have had Chrispy and the gang down on me like a ton of bricks. )

She got them from Augsburger, Despite the fire risk. They were made of the finest pine, varnished after every meal!

I don't feel so bad about not catching the reference now. I Hadn't seen the German specials until last night after looking up your original reference.

 

[farntfar]

No flies on you, Py. (That comes a couple of chapters later.)
A howling bell, and over to you for the next clue.

Oh yes...

Actually, in my OED, it says "from whence" is wrong but generally accepted. (Other than on the Chrons.)

Keldaris.
Yes. I knew it from the records myself, and only found "The Lost German Episode" last night. (The record version was considerably better.)
Oddly, I seem to remember it on the telly from when I was a boy; but not that version. (Terry Jones was Otto.)

Mind you. I'm sure I remember Farntfar (and Poodoo and Hig Hurtnflurst and the shoe event horizon etc.)) from the telly version of the Hitchhiker's Guide. But the internet tells me he was only ever on the radio.
I've clearly switched timelines at some point.

 

[Pyan]

Thank you.

A nice easy one, but I'll need a quote:

How much longer did the scions of the Edain live than lesser Men, when they first went to Elenna-nórë?

 

[Pyan]

Clue?

 

[The Judge]

Oh yes.

 

[Pyan]

Aragorn was an example, though his span was reduced from those days.