The Revived Tolkien Trivia

[Clansman]

Here are a few:

1. Merry (need I provide a quote?!?!?)
2. "esquire of Rohan of the household of Medusheld" (RotK, Book 1, Chapter 2, The Passing of the Grey Company, p. 51)
3. "Meriadoc of the Shire' (as above, page 50)
4. "sword-thain" (as above, page 50)

"You shall be my esquire, if you will. Is there gear of war in this place, Eomer, that my sword-thain could use?"..."May I lay the sword of Meriadoc of the Shire on your lap, Theoden King?"..."Rise now, Meriadoc, esquire of Rohan of the household of Meduseld!"

5. little orc "I should have just trodden on you, taking you for little orcs..." p. 67, The Two Towers, Book One, "Treebeard"

Be back later with more...

 

[Clansman]

6. little one: "'Well, my little ones!' said Grishnakh in a soft whisper"... p. 58, The Two Towers, Book 1, "Uruk Hai"
7. tender little fool: "'My dear tender little fools,' hissed Grishnakh..." p. 59, as above.
8. filthy little vermin: "'Curse you, you filthy little vermin!' he hissed..." p. 59, as above.
9. Doorwarden of Isengard: "'Welcome, my lords, to Isengard!' he said. 'We are the doorwardens. Meriadoc, son of Saradoc is my name; and my companion, who, alas! is overcome with weariness...is Peregrin, son of Paladin, of the house of Took'" p. 162, The Two Towers, Book 1, "Flotsam and Jetsam"
10. Meriadoc son of Saradoc. See no. 9 above for the quote.

Might be able to find more, but you only asked for ten.

 

[Marky Lazer]

I didn't mean most of those, but I guess I didn't phrase the question right. I was looking for The Magnificent, Holdwine, Kalimac, etc. But I guess you're excused because of my lousy question. Ting-ting and go ahead, Clansman.

 

[Clansman]

I admit, I did take advantage of your question and simply jumped on it. I am a lawyer, after all!

A question, a question. My kingdom for a question. I'll repost by noon Eastern Standard Time (5 p.m. Greenwich) with a question. I have to work right now.

 

[Clansman]

At last! I have for thee a question:

Who alone stood against any attempt of the Shadow regaining the lands of Angmar?

And it would be on time, too, if I had said "tomorrow" in my last post!

 

[Clansman]

Gee, I thought this one was rather easy...

 

[Clansman]

chirrrp, chirrrp, chirrrp, chirrrp, chirrrp, chirrrp, chirrrp, chirrrp, chirrrp...

wait a minute. It's November. The darn crickets are dormant (in Eastern Ontario, anyway).

Come on, you guys! This one can't be that hard, especially for people who have read Tolkien as many bloody times as this lot has!

If you need a hint, let me know, though I don't know how I can give one without blowing the answer wide open.

 

[goldhawk]

Who alone stood against any attempt of the Shadow regaining the lands of Angmar?

I thought I knew Tolkien but this one stumps me...unless you mean who stood alone against the hosts of Angband? That would be Húrin.

Last of all Húrin stood alone. Then he cast aside his shield, and wielded an axe two-handed; and it is sung that the axe smoked in the black blood of the troll-guard of Gothmog until it withered, and each time that he slew Húrin cried: 'Aurë entuluva! Day shall come again!' Seventy times he uttered that cry; but they took him at last alive, by command of Morgoth, for the Orcs grappled him with theirs hands, which clung to him still though he hewed off their arms; and ever their numbers were renewed, until at last he fell buried beneath them. Then Gothmog bound him and dragged him to Angband with mockery.

 

[Clansman]

Uhhh, no. ANGMAR it is. Not Angband. As in "The Witch King of Angmar, Lord of the Nazgul", they guy who was slain by Eowen and Merry.

How to hint this without blowing it wide open? The question refers to a time prior to the death of Smaug.

 

[goldhawk]

Calmly now, no need to blow a gasket.

Well, since it is Angmar and you said "regaining" I will guess that you are talking about the Dúnedain, the Rangers of the North. I seem to recall in the LotR that Aragron was talking about the activities of the Dúnedain but I can't remember where that passage was.

Of course, that would make the "Who" in your question plural, as in, "Which group stood alone..."

 

[Clansman]

Nope, but nice try. The Dunedain were too few and far between to prevent much anyway. Take a closer look at my hint.

Oh, and don't forget the rule in the first post of this thread (you need a quote (been stymied by that one myself!)).

Your grammar change is warranted, as the "who" is not a single person...Ah, but I have said enough.

 

[Werewoman]

I'm either brave or stupid but I'm still figuring out how to play this game.

I've been researching for the last two days. Every time I think I know who it is, a different character comes to mind and I start chasing that path.....

Clansman, you give really good hints, and I can think of several routes to follow to find the answer, the problem is that I can't find the specific quotes to back up my answer in a satisfactory manner. So I used logic and deductive reasoning to make a wild, hairy guess since none of these other knuckleheads seem to be any better at this than I am.

So, my answer is: Isildur

My reasons for choosing him:

1. Who alone...... refers to any living being including hobbits, ents, men, elves, orcs, etc.
2. The Shadow refers to the darkness of Sauron's power over the lands.
3. In a later post, you refer to the Witch King (slain by Merry) and Smaug (slain by Eowyn) and hint that the event in question occured before the death of Smaug.
4. Frodo could be a logical choice if not for your hint since the One Ring was not destroyed until after the death of Smaug.
5. In your latest post, you use the word 'person', suggesting the character in question is of the race of men.
6. Angmar is the land once ruled by the Witch King when he was a man before Sauron gave him one of the Nine. (could be wrong about this one)
7. When Isildur cut the ring from Sauron's hand he stopped the Shadow but not the power of the One Ring (to rule them all, blah blah blah).


y'all can stop laughing now...

 

[goldhawk]

Good except that after Isildur cut the Ring from Sauron's hand he never made it back to Arnor. He was killed before he crossed the Misty Mountains.

I was thinking it may be Fornost. I remember reading something like it and, at the time, I thought it was not alone; there was still the Elves at Rivendell and the Grey Havens.

According to Appendix B of the LotR, the Witch King first came to Angmar around 1300 TA. His first attack of Arnor is in 1409 TA. In 1974 TA, the Witch King takes Arthedain and Fornost, the last holdouts of the northern Númenorians. In 1975 TA, he is defeated by forces from Gondor and the Grey Havens and flees the north. At the end of this battle, Glorfindel uttered his prophecy: "Far off yet is his doom, and not by the hand of man will he fall."

It is between this event and Bilbo's adventure in 2941 TA that he is talking about.

 

[Clansman]

Okay, you guys are waaaay off track.

My question should have been "what people alone stood between the Shadow regaining the lands of Angmar and the northern mountain passes?" And remember my hints above.

If that doesn't narrow it down, then I don't know what to do.

Where's Pyan when you need him? Oh, tentacled moderator man who has read LOTR over forty times???

 

[Pyan]

Oh, I'm here...making a library-cum-office out of a spare room, and my books are in boxes and stacked in the hall. So, by my own and Marky's rules....

 

[goldhawk]

My question should have been "what people alone stood between the Shadow regaining the lands of Angmar and the northern mountain passes?" And remember my hints above.

In that case, it would be the other side of the Misty Mountains. That means either the Beornings, the Woodfolk of Western Mirkwood, the Rohirrim (before they moved south) or the Galadhrim. Of these, the Galadhrim seems the most likely since they would be the ones to most likely remember that they should be guarding against the Shadow. But I can't seem to find any passage that says that.

Oh, you're just forcing me to re-read the books. I haven't done that since the movies came out. Tricksy, tricksy you are.

 

[Clansman]

Nice sinister avatar this week, Pyan. Your collection is a marvel.

Goldhawk, we is always tricksy, prescious. Tricksy indeed. You should have seen our question on "cram"! GOLLUM!
Prescious must read the bookses, yesss prescioussss. AAALL of the booksess, every part of them. Yess presciouss. GOLLUM! GOLLUM!

 

[Werewoman]

I punt!!

 

[Grimward]

I'm lurking, Clanny, and may be close....interestingly, my spare room is also in the final stages of becoming a library. SFF books that have been in boxes for 15 years now bask in broad daylight (well, as much as the cherry trees let reach the window, anyway).

Anyhow, have already ruled out 4 likely spots for the quote....

 

[Grimward]

Twas hid much better than you gave it credit for, Clanny. March 15, 2941, 3rd Age, within Gandalf's meditation:

But to resist any attempt from the East to regain the lands of Angmar and the northern passes in the mountains there were now only the Dwarves of the Iron Hills.

The Return of The King, Appendix A, Part III Durin's Folk, p. 1052

Sadly, because I was thinking along similar lines (ie, the Dunedain, Elrond, Lindon, etc.), I skipped right over this paragraph 3 days ago in search of some non-existent reference to Rivendell. Oh well, I've said it here before: Dense is the Grimward, and a bit short in the uptake!