The Revived Tolkien Trivia

Oh ... I thought being careful meant not saying black :eek:

Apparently multiple levels of carefulness are required.

(If anyone's waiting out of politeness for me to add to my answer - don't. I'm clueless at the moment.)
 
Frodo looked back for a moment over his shoulder. He could no longer see his friends. The Riders were falling back: even their great steeds were no match in speed for the white elf-horse of Glorfindel. He looked forward again, and hope faded. There seemed no chance of reaching the Ford before he was cut off by the others that had lain in ambush. He could see them clearly now: they appeared to have cast aside their hoods and black cloaks, and they were robed in white and grey.
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The Fellowship of the Ring, Book I, Chapter XII, Flight to the Ford, somewhere near page 208, give or take an edition....

One of my most favorite passages in the entire trilogy (although it's the next sentence or two where Asfaloth flashes in front of the ambush that I remember most, as you can tell:rolleyes:), so even if it's not the one you wanted, a thumbs up from me!
 
That's what I was looking for. It always seemed odd to me that the Nazgûl would wear white. Grey I can believe, but white in the rest of the book stands for the Good Guys - even Saruman the White changes to Saruman the Multicoloured when he finally goes over to the Dark Side...

The scene in the film was spoiled for me by Mr Jackson's lunatic assumption that Arwen would be out looking for the travellers, unescorted and with nothing better to do than play tag with all nine of the Enemy's most powerful servants...:rolleyes:

Anyway, a silver bell goes to the Grim One, with the added bonus of responsibility for setting the next question...
 
*Gazes, enraptured.....*

Siillllverrrr......


*Snaps to..*

Thank you, sir Super-M.

A question it is, then.

Who made "...an addition to the Design...", and what was added?

P.S. I didn't like the Arwen = Glorfindel substitution, either, but quite forgave PJ after the spectacular ensuing Bruinen flood scene a few minutes later....
 
Alas, she's ill-equipped (as much as anyone so fetching can be "ill" equipped) to play a male elf, much less an elf-lord like Glorfindel. Don't get me wrong, Marky; I applaud PJ's choice of Liv Tyler for Arwen, but it should only have been Arwen that she played, if you catch my drift...

Anyhoo, I digress. I will accept either of 2 possibilities (all I've discovered...there could be others, but I've not made such connection). One is a little more precise to the question, but either will do. Hint: Both are in the same source.
 
My, my Grim, but you have dated yourself. Okay, who owns the lonely heart? Kidding.

Might I hazard a guess, at both no less?

Aulë, and then Manwë (on behalf of Yavanna), from The Silmarillion, Quenta Silmarillion, Chapter 2, "Of Aulë and Yavanna", page 43 (1st edition, hardcover (this is for all of you pedants!)).

for Aulë:

It is told that in their beginning the Dwarves were made by Aulë in the darkness of Middle-Earth; for so greatly did Aulë desire the coming of the Children, to have learners to whom he could teach his lore and his crafts, that he was unwilling to await the fulfilment of the designs of Ilúvatar.
(emphasis mine)

AND for Manwë, at page 46:

"When the Children awake, then the thought of Yavanna will awake also, and it will summon spirits from afar, and they will go among the kelvar and the olvar, and some will dwell therein, and be held in reverence, and their just anger shall be feared." ... "In the mountains the Eagles shall house, and hear the voices of those who call upon us. But in the forests shall walk the Shepherds of the Trees." (emaphasis JRRT's)

The second is fairly tenuous, as it appears the Ents were contemplated in the Song, but, it is respectfully sumbitted for your approval, Grim.
 
It's a good effort, Clanny, but there are occasions where I should be taken literally, and this is one of them. I am indeed dating myself, however, and the song is a LOT older (in relative rock years, anyway!) than 90125. Owing to his background, Chrispy might have a good read on the song....
 
To unlock the answer, seek ye a cosmogonical myth....

(or, at least, a reference to such!)
 
I think I know where to find this; I'll have a look tonight. I mean, I was in Dublin and they don't have electricity west of England, so I couldn't answer it...
 
What?! Ben Franklin never visited Ireland with kite and key in tow? Outrageous, I tell you....;)

Or are you being serious (ie, did I miss some regional cataclysm that knocked out Ireland's power)?

As a further hint, the Music of the Ainur never mentions electricity.....
 
How about this:

MELKOR!!!

"But as the theme progressed, it came into the heart of Melkor to interweave matters of his own imagining that were not in accord with the theme of Ilúvatar; for he sought therein to increase the power and glory of the part assigned to himself...

Some of these thoughts he now wove into his music, and straight-way discord arose about him, and many that sang nigh to him grew despondent, and their thought was disturbed and their music faltered; but some began to attune their music to his rather than to the thought which they had at first."

The Silmarillion, Ainulindalë, page 16 (1st edition, hardcover).
 
Sorry Mr. Clansman sir, but not what I'm looking for.

Hint: the quoted material in the first post with my question is excerpted literally from the quote I'm looking for, and can also be found in one other acceptable place (that I've seen).
 
Bilbo finding the ring in Golllum's caves?

(Gandalf) "Behind that there was something else at work, beyond any design of the Ring-maker. I can put it no plainer than by saying that Bilbo was meant to find the Ring, and not by its maker. ."
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FotR - Book1, Chapter II - The Shadow of the Past
 
Grimward said:
What?! Ben Franklin never visited Ireland with kite and key in tow? Outrageous, I tell you....;)

Or are you being serious (ie, did I miss some regional cataclysm that knocked out Ireland's power)?

As a further hint, the Music of the Ainur never mentions electricity.....
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My idea was actually Music of the Ainur, but last night I couldn't find it...
 
Regretfully, not what I'm looking for, Py, and quotes related to the Music of the Ainur will put you on the right path, Marky....

*A tiny whispering sound is heard*

"Letters........"
 
Hmmph. Must be in Letters.

Edit: I also must learn to read all the posts before I post. DUH.
 
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