Fed Up Yet???

re: the hunger.

I had this problem with the Infamous Robert Jordan. I had such the hunger to keep reading the story. I found I had to transfer that hunger and that's how I found GRRM. So my solution was to find other authors and keep the momentum going. I agree it might be nicer to read them all once the whole thing is done, then it's easier to keep track of all the character. Actually it only takes a bit of reading for the most important characters to come back to me. Anyway this very hunger of wanting more of the story is what made me much more of a reader. Now I have a "to read" pile that I can't keep up with. Here's to hoping the wait isn't too long.
 
Nice stuff Boaz. Not only is the Wooden story appropriate to this discussion, but it also illustrates how sports turn people (like me) into idiots. Teddy Bear's speech is classic-makes me wish I was born in an age where presidents didn't babble about "evildoers" or lie about hummers in Congressional hearings.

ANYWAY-I didn't want let Martin completely off the hook. He basically gave his readers the perception that AFFC was half a book. If I had read ASOS when it first was published and then waited 5 years only to get a half-book maybe I'd feel letdown. He could've used someone to put a better spin on the split. Maybe his Stark-like integrity doesn't allow him to shape the truth to his benefit. He needs to hire a Littlefinger in case something like this goes down again.
 
Fed up from the waiting?

I've gained roughly 832 pounds over the last five years.

I admit it makes it difficult to find pants that fit, but I'm still happily sitting at the table.
 
I think maybe a poli-sci class has broken out in my literature forum. Hmm.....

Oh and that '66 UCLA team that placed third was considered the greatest in the country at the start of the season. And the second-best on its own campus to the Lew Alcindor led freshman team.

And now you know....and knowing is half the battle
 
Yoss, needs a Littlefinger... hmmm.

Wiggs, good to see you and Johnny. 832 LBS? You need some of that Orange Blossom Special.

Egg, leggo my eggo. No poli-sci here, I won't stand for it... unless I'm on the soapbox.

The Bruins '66 team did not make the Final Four... that was the famous Texas Western (now UTEP... where Tim Hardaway's crossover was dubbed the UTEP two step) win over Kentucky for the national title.... Oregon State represented the Athletic Association of Western Universities (the pre-courser to the PAC 10).

But yes, the UCLA '65-'66 team were defending national champs and pre-season favorites yet were not the best team on their own campus! They lost to their own freshmen team (freshmen were not eligible to play... back then student-athletes were real students) led by Lew Alcindor from Power Memorial High School and included Lucius Allen, Mike Warren (of Hill Street Blues fame), and Lynn Shakelford. As sophmores, these four ignited the run of seven straight!

Now who's FED UP with UCLA basketball and Teddy Roosevelt and ready to get back to ASOIAF?
 
It wouldn't have been 832 pounds if I hadn't bee told to put down that whiskey and leave that cocaine be.

Maybe I've just been tempered by the fire that was waiting for The Dark Tower books to be published but I'm confused as how one can be "fed up" with this (I think I read that series for roughly 17 years before it was complete).

Is it a reaction meant to punish Martin for his relatively slow publishing rate?

Finding some satisfaction in flipping him the proverbial book waiting bird?

The man hasn't tied anyone's hands, books are still being published last time I looked, the earth hasn't stopped and my tap water is still drinkable.

Whether we wait one year or ten, the original reason you are waiting anxiously for the next volume hasn't changed, that being your love for the series to this point.

Being fed up with it seems a pointless thing to be. I'm as eager as anyone for the next installment, but I'm not going to let an undeserved feeling of impatience ruin my enjoyment of something that has given me so much pleasure.
 
I am not fed up yet, but having only finished reading the books for the first time a couple weeks ago, I haven't had to wait very long. :) As long as the finished product lives up to the quality of the previous books, I don't think the wait can be to long. I would much rather wait years for the next book that is well written than wait only months to a year for a book that was thrown together and lets the fans down. As long as the books eventually get published, I'm willing to stick around and wait and not complain (too much).
 
Shoegaze99 said:
I picked it up right away, i.e. bought it, I just haven't read it. It's not that difficult to be patient when there are dozens and dozens of other quality novels to read, both new and old. It's not like there is a lack of things to read. Once Martin made it clear that AFFC was really only half of the fourth book, I determined before I even purchased it that I'd not read it until the other "half" was complete. At the time it was going to be under a year because much of it was already written, so it didn't seem like a big wait to endure. It has since become much longer, of course, but in seeing the disappointment some felt at half the character arcs being snipped from AFFC and held for book five, I feel like I made the right choice for my overall reading enjoyment. I'll be reading them as one extended book.
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I wish I would have done that as well because when I read AFFC I found that it only seemed to be half of the story and, at least for me, the most uninteresting half. Not saying I didn't like the book, just saying I think it would have been better if he had kept all the characters together as he did in previous books and put at the end..."to be continued"

At least that way I would have got the whole song, but really the way to read those two books would be to read chapter from AFFC, open ADWD and then read a chapter from it until both are finished.
 
My 2 coppers on the issue are:

1. If the series were finished and I had read it all, I don't think I'd have the same excitement. The books would be displayed prominantly on the shelf and I'd look at them and think that was a great series. I would probably still revisit from time to time, but any shock or suprize would be gone.

2. I love the conjecture and the ongoing suspense. Martin isn't dragging out the series plotwise to keep the franchise going, he is just taking care to keep all his additions relevant. And what fun would these boards be if we knew the ending? The only author with more posts, not even topics, just posts is Tolkein. Delayed gratification is a good thing, especially when the quality of that gratification is on par with the gift Martin gives us.

My bigger question is when he finishes the original 7 will he be able to let Westeros go, perhaps a series a few generations later than ASOIAF or a few generations before Dunk and Egg.
 
I think I recall reading an article where GRRM said he might revisit Westeros when he was fiinished with ASOIAF. If I find it I will post it here. As long as the stories were as good as ASOIAF I would enjoy more stories taking place in Westeros. I think he would take a break between them though, and visit some of his other stories and ideas.
 
His first 3 books were 3 of the finest books in the fantasy genre.

Yet I am beginning to fear he is starting to emulate Robert Jordon. Waiting times between books are lengthening and the last book was a slower pace and had multiplying POV (reminscent of what went wrong with Jordon after book 6).

I am somewhat nostalgic for the days when Fantasy authors could tell their stories in a trilogy (or at most 5 books).
 
hi just a not sorry read them bt i d read terry pittss but i like m themake lolo at the mos thing but liiter thigs make me lolo so it onre to a other but i thk i gear them a go is stark winter good then i have look at it .
 
WTF?? Kellyann: Rules we have here on the Chronicles:

1) Make sense when you post
2) Type legibly
3) If you want to text message, do it with your friends on your mobile not here

Do this and maybe you will not be ignored. Otherwise Brian and Raven will crack the whip.
 
Wow kellyann, sorry I didn't understand anything from your post. I think I saw my name in there, but it's hard to tell.

Here is the quote from the article where GRRM is talking about other stories in Westeros:

PWCW: When you finish all of the novels you have planned, is that going to be the end of Westeros, or do you see yourself continuing to write stories in this world?
 
Here's his answer:

GRRM: I think that having created the world in such detail—and it is such a huge world—I think there are other stories to tell there. They would not be a continuation of A Song of Ice and Fire,though; they would be stories from other periods of history, about other characters. Maybe not even part of the Seven Kingdoms, maybe some of the kingdoms across the sea, a thousand years in the past or whatever.

On the other hand, there are also other stories I want to do in some of the other series I’ve worked with. Science fiction, horror stories, a sequel to Fevre Dream, another [Haviland] Tuf book, more Wild Cards books and so forth. The Wild Cards series, which is probably my most comiclike series, is being revived by Tor Books in a big new trilogy that starts in January. I also have a deal with Marvel and the Dabels for a Wild Card comic book, so that’ll start coming out next year, too.

Talking with George R. R. Martin Part 2 - 8/14/2007 - Publishers Weekly
 
kellyann said:
hi just a not sorry read them bt i d read terry pittss but i like m themake lolo at the mos thing but liiter thigs make me lolo so it onre to a other but i thk i gear them a go is stark winter good then i have look at it .
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Great point! I agree with everything you've written here. Honestly, I couldn't have said it better myself. Kudos on the fantastic post, and welcome aboard!
 
Thanks for all the suggestions guys and gals!
think i'm gonna put the series to bed for a while. I might pick it back up near the final book if it still appeals to me, but honestly the wait so far and seemingly infinite years to the conclusion, is putting me off.
It's with a heavy heart I say goodbye as nothing I've read has ever engrossed me so much.

It's also with a sadness that I say goodbye to Robert Jordan and Wheel Of Time. So sad to hear about his death. I don't think I'll finish that series either because no matter who they team up to complete the final book will only be a long second to The Creator. yes I do know he has recorded audio tapes and told the story in full to family but.....

P.S. Jordan's demise is also a reason I'm leaving the ASOIAF series as I couldn't bear to wait longer for something that MIGHT ( I pray not) even find it's end!

P.P.S Anyone find ARYAUNDERFOOT?

SO TILL THE FAT LADY SINGS!!!!!!
( bows and leaves the stage)
 
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