New GRRM Update on ADWD

[Tansy]

Already read and enjoyed Fevre Dream Gollum

 

[GOLLUM]

Already read and enjoyed Fevre Dream Gollum

Good to know.

Check out Armageddon Rag, Dying Of The Light and Windhaven

In fact the only thing by Martin I haven't committed to is his Wild Card series. Otherwise the shelves would be bursting!

 

[Ursa major]

Then there's the absolutely fantastic Dragon Of Dreams GRRM retrospective. Huge tome of his shorter fiction displaying his wide versatility in different Genres and one of the best collections I've ever read.

Is that an alternative title for Martin's Dreamsongs: A RRetrospective? If so, I can vouch for its quality and range and would heartily recommend it (or them, as I've only seen it as a two-volume set).

 

[GOLLUM]

Is that an alternative title for Martin's Dreamsongs: A RRetrospective? If so, I can vouch for its quality and range and would heartily recommend it (or them, as I've only seen it as a two-volume set).

Actually it was Dreamsongs...couldn't remember the title. I've got the original single HB edn....very noice as you say...

 

[the smiling weirwood]

I ordered the original edition from England long before it was printed in the U.S. Cross Atlantic shipping is a bitch.

 

[TK-421]

I will be in merry ol' London in October and maybe this is something I should look into at Waterstone's.

 

[Werthead]

I will be in merry ol' London in October and maybe this is something I should look into at Waterstone's.

The original version of Dreamsongs was actually published in the States under the title GRRM: A RRetrospective. It was a limited edition from Subterranean Press and is very rare (not to mention valuable).

It came out about five years before the Dreamsongs version, which is why The Sworn Sword isn't in it.

 

[GOLLUM]

The original version of Dreamsongs was actually published in the States under the title GRRM: A RRetrospective. It was a limited edition from Subterranean Press and is very rare (not to mention valuable).

It came out about five years before the Dreamsongs version, which is why The Sworn Sword isn't in it.

I have the HB edn Dreamsongs: A Retrospective but not the original subterranean edn. but the one published 3 years on in UK by Victor Gollancz. Still a FANTASTIC retrospective, one of the best I've ever seen actually.

If anyone wants to know how good Martin is, just get a copy of DreamSongs.

Highly recommended.

 

[TK-421]

OK, so how could I get the two Dunk and Egg short stories? In his bibliography, it says Dreamsongs came out in 2007. Maybe I can order whatever book will give me both from Chapters here in Canada (our version of Barnes & Nobles).

 

[the smiling weirwood]

I got the first one in Dreamsongs, but I could never find the second one in actual book form. I only found the stupid graphic novel.

 

[Culhwch]

TK, look for the collections Legends and Legends II edited by Robert Silverberg. That's where I got them.

 

[TK-421]

OK thanks guys. Will do someday if I don't keep putting it off.

 

[viZion]

I read Dreamsongs vol. II because it had the Dunk and Egg story in it. There are some stories in that book. I really liked the werewolf story (sorry, I don't remember the name of it). The one thing that *really* jumped out at me throughout the book - and I'm surprised no one else picked up on it - is how Martin has been writing in his slow, deliberate style for a lot if not most of his career. Time and again in the intros to the stories he'll talk about how he meant to write more stories about that particular character but could just never find the motivation to get back to it. Or how he had to write the next story for an anthology but he turned it in months late which caused the entire anthology to be published late even though the other contributing authors all turned their work in on time. These delays for AFFC and ADWD are nothing new for Martin. He's been writing at his own pace, and damn the publishers, for a very long time. Unfortunately, I can't look up the specific references since I checked out the book from the library and returned it months ago. Anyway, read it for yourself and decide.

 

[the smiling weirwood]

The werewolf story was called "The Skin Trade" and it was very, very good. I loved that one.

 

[Werthead]

Legends is out of print and almost impossible to get hold off and Legends II almost as much. Confusingly, both books were published in multiple volumes in mmpb, so make sure you're getting the right one (and not confusing Legends II with Legends, Volume 2, which happens a lot).

If you're in the UK, the best thing to do is grab Dreamsongs, Vol II to get The Hedge Knight, and try to find the one-volume mmpb edition of Legends II to get hold of The Sworn Sword.

Also remember that the third story, The Mystery Knight, will be published in Warriors, which comes out from Tor in the USA in March 2010, IIRC.

Or how he had to write the next story for an anthology but he turned it in months late which caused the entire anthology to be published late even though the other contributing authors all turned their work in on time.

That only happened twice, and the first time was when GRRM was an editor and not contributing a story himself. He was friends with the writers involved so didn't go around (politely) kicking them up the ass as he perhaps should have done, with the result that the 'Best New SF Fiction 1973' anthology came out in 1976 The other time was with The Skin Trade, which was coming out in a triple-omnibus with new stories by Stephen King and Dan Simmons, and he was delayed by his work in Hollywood. Beyond that, I don't recall any mention of major delays on other works.

 

[Ursa major]

Wasn't there a more worrying admission: something along the lines of not being able to finish series?


(On the other hand, we should be grateful that such a talented writer a writer has given us such wonderful work in so many genres (and media).)

 

[Werthead]

Wasn't there a more worrying admission: something along the lines of not being able to finish series?


(On the other hand, we should be grateful that such a talented writer a writer has given us such wonderful work in so many genres (and media).)

Well, none of the others were a series in the same way ASoIaF is. In some cases he meant to go back and revisit the characters, and in several cases (such as with Tuf Haviland in the half-dozen or so Tuf Voyaging stories) he did.

 

[Ursa major]

That's true, Wert: ASoIaF is not really a series at all, but a multi-volume single work of great complexity.

The problem is in getting ASoIaF on paper in the way GRRM, and we, would want**; it isn't the same ascoming up with a series of stories that are related to each other only through common characters and its universe.




** - Personally, I'd rather ASoIaF was incomplete (but of continuing high quality) than complete but hurried/knocked together. I suspect GRRM is of the same opinion.

 

[Boaz]

Martin talked of his progress today.

Sep. 3rd, 2009 at 12:35 PM

Taking another whack at the Meereenese knot today. I'm going to try breaking two largish chapters into four smallish ones, changing the order of events somewhat, and weaving them all together. Maybe that will work a little better.



Can it really be September?? Ack. I can feel the heat of those flames...

 

[Ursa major]

Thanks for that, Boaz.