Star Trek (2009)

OK, the new movie is released now. What does everyone think? (i haven't seen it yet, by the way.)

One of the guys at work is going absolutely berserk over the fact that they've changed the time line from the Original series. Personally, i don't mind as long as it breaths some life into an almost dead franchise.

Anyone else have an issue with what Paramount has allowed Abrams to do?
 
I think your mate is right because J.J. Abrams will never be on the same level as Cameron, Lucas or Spielberg because these guys have had 20 to 30 years experince at film directing and Abrams is only a T.V Director and should leave big films alone and stick to t.v.
 
Paramount seems to have killed Star Trek off somewhat. A fresh perspective may bring some life into the franchise yet. That said, this will ruin the continuity somewhat with things being retconned.
 
As a long-time Star Trek fan, I am looking forward to this new movie. I find it especially intriguing because it has a new director, so hopefully a fresh perspective will do the film some good. Many fans have been quite unhappy with the direction Berman and Braga have taken Star Trek in the last few years.

I am not counting on this movie bringing back Star Trek, however. I do think the franchise has seen its best days and will never return to how it has been. This movie isn't going to change that, but it still has potential to be enjoyable.
 
The curse is that every odd-numbered Trek movie (or every prime-numbered Trek movie) is bad. This one is a prime number - which, of course, makes it an odd number almost by definition.
 
In spite of my fears I went to see the new Star Trek Movie today. Let me be the first to say, "Star Trek Lives. It has been reborn." I don't want to dump a lot of spoilers but I feel they nailed it. They changed the Canon but they did it in a manner that I can live with. I enjoyed the movie and I am looking forward to the next one since they left room for a whole new Star Trek universe that we've never seen. This may be the first movie in many years that I see twice in a theater. I did at on point feel like I was seeing the Star Wars prequels where history was being rewritten but by using an alternate universe*, I think they nailed it.




* Spoiler concept.
 
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Glad to see you enjoyed it. I'm looking forward to reading about it on these forums. There's going to be a lot of ra`ther heated discussion with regards to the Canon changes. Be prepared to defend yourself. :D

I must admit that i want to see it myself. Although i liked Star Trek, i wouldn't consider myself a massive fan so the change in Canon would probably not affect me either.
 
I just saw it too, and, yes, you're right. I can live with the changed Canon. But, as to whether it can survive, that I don't know. It will depend on how they tell the successive stories.
 
I saw the movie yesterday and I gave it 9 out of 10 JJ Abrahams has done for startrek what Russel T Davis has done for Dr Who. Startrek has what it was lacking under the bland stewardship of Brannon and Braga, an edge! it has grown up.

I feel this film will not only appeal to existing fans but to a wider audience and possibly a new fanbase.
 
Agree with all the above. For the older fans there was "ST:TOS bingo", spotting the cliches from the original series, but they were mostly warm and comforting rather than jarring and awkward. And were generally well woven into the plot. Non-stop action, as you'd expect from JJA, and on the whole the effects were very good. Only one notable exception I thought, which was
the red dino-predator on Delta Vega
. Would concur with 8-9 out of 10. I'd also rate it above Wolverine, a comparable "back to beginnings" current flick, though only by a mark or two. The story may have been simple but it flowed well and was well executed at a decent pace.
 
Wow, seems to be getting the thumbs up from everyone so far.

Love it or hate it, at least you can't say that Abrams hasn't given it the respect it deserves by turning out a decent movie.

This one will divide fans on the forums for decades to come.
 
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Wow, seems to be getting the thumbs up from everyone so far.

Love it or hate it, at least you can't say that Abrams hasn't given it the respect it deserves by turning out a decent movie.

This one will divide fans on the forums for decades to come.
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I just can't wait for everbody to see it so we can get down to properly deconstructing it there are going to be some interesting debates.
 
I am going to see Star Trek XI today and am looking forward to it. I did glance at a review page with numerical scores, thought did not read all the reviews. That page got lots of 8, 9 and 10's but several 2's and 3's. The people who dislike REALLY seem heated about it. It will be a hot topic in the Star Trek Universe for quite a while, based on what little I've seen so far!

Back tonight after the show with my own rating!
 
You can say that again Catwoman. I can see a few threads getting locked as they get out of hand. :D
 
Just seen it and overall liked it. Bones and Jim, Jim and Spok, Spok and ...(?) was all pretty good: the casting was spot on. Didn't like the plot holes, - great big stonking huge ones - and the jurrasic park bit was a bit twee. (Hope I don't get no deletes!)

The Canon isn't changed ALL that much, or can be ignored with a worf-like 'we do not speak of it!' 4 out of 5!
 
Star Trek 11

Finally after months of waiting, just got to see the movie.
Here are my thoughts on this.

[9/may/2009] Score: 7/10
Contains Spoilers.
One of the things I dreaded about this before watching was that the producers would do a "Star Trek High" style of movie, bringing all the characters together as teenagers to save the universe. They, just, about, thankfully avoided that temptation, but it's a very close miss, and I'm still not quite sure why the Federation would give a crew of semi-experienced teenagers and young adults control of a flagship of their fleet, but I guess there was less time in the final script to develop the characters through a few more years of maturity, bringing them together more realistically.
There are two reasons why I downgraded Star Trek from what is a good thrill-ride, and both owe their origins to "Galaxy Quest", so if you know that wonderful satire of the whole SF cult community you'll have a clue to what I mean.
The first of these is the "big mysterious alien super-technology device" which appears here as "Red Matter" a weird material with special properties; and the second is the "why the hell to they have THIS on the ship!?" scene in which we see the intrepid crew of Galaxy Quest, oops, I mean the Enterprise, have to confront an apparently useless but challenging part of the ship to make their escape, in this case the plumbing system.
From a writer's point of view they are both useless and unimaginative devices, which appear to say the screenwriters of Star Trek lack originality and/or are paying an over-enthusiastic humorous tribute to Galaxy Quest, and all that came before it. And that made me sad to think about what was otherwise a good piece of entertainment.
Star Trek will also surprise the viewer in introducing the whole genre anew. In the same way Casino Royale rewrote and restarted the James Bond movies, so Star Treks starts afresh, proposing a new parallel universe with a new history to-come, when they use time travel to unravel everything we've come to know about the characters and their universe, for example the origins of James T. Kirk, the fate of Vulcan, and so on.
This, in a way, is the good part, as it will offer future writers the opportunity, if they can restrain themselves, of developing a new plot for the whole, new Star Trek universe, but will upset the expectations of many existing fans.
Verdict: Go, carefully.


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I've added a spoiler warning to the title, as more details are being revealed....:p
 
I agree that this nearly became a Star Trek High movie, but it didn't, and that's something to be grateful for.

That said, while I agree there has been a reboot and/or a revival, my question is how long this can go on. I mean, all serials have to come to an end eventually, like Buck Rogers, Flash Gordon, and, yes, Star Trek and Star Wars.
 
One things for sure, this film is certainly going to Hot up the ST board. Yay.

Now, what to do to liven up the others.
 
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