Improving our 75 Word Stories -- READ FIRST POST

I got some good feed back on this one and would like to put it up to see where I am not seeing my grammatical mistakes. Also to ask if the reference to Jack Daniels Whiskey was too vague? Because the central idea was supposed to be that Mr Daniels took out Miss Moonshine, and I only tossed in the last line to cover my tracks if my central idea wasnt imbibed.



Mr. Daniels comes to town.



Beneath the lace corset, feather band, amber curls and voice of gold, a demon lurked.
Ethyl owned the whole damned town and ran it from her brothel. Gold that came in never escaped her white-lace fingers.
It was the black-eyed stranger who was her undoing. He saw right through her frilly facade, then shot her clean through the heart. Odd thing was, she kept it in a sachet under her pillow.

Those are the only changes I would make in the way you wrote this story. You could change the gold sentence, perhaps "Gold came in, but never escaped her white-lace fingers," or "The gold coming in never escaped her white-lace fingers," but it works ok the way it is with the language of the story. I like the white-lace fingers, for some reason.

You don't want a semi-colon in the last sentence -- your comma is just right. That sentence, just the way it is, makes the story.

I have to say that I didn't get the Jack Daniels reference, possibly because the Miss Moonshine part wasn't there with it, although I'm not sure that would have helped. I think that's a story line that wasn't necessary in the end, though it might have been where you started. I did, just now, realize that's why her name was "Ethyl". :)

There were no grammatical mistakes, in the sense of things being wrong; there were things that could have been said differently, but that's universal, and the way you said them here captured the voice beautifully. I loved it!
 
I think I'm losing my edge in determining what makes a good post. I really felt that the following story was among the best I'd ever written but it get little attention. Maybe it was just the overall quality of the other pieces which was high. But I'm wondering if there was something here that I missed.

Thanks for your consideration.

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2087 – Back to the Catacombs

Rachel scurried down the alley. Furtively, she looked behind. If the Radical Secularists caught her, they might kill her. Accusations alone would guarantee that she would lose her job. In a world of militant toleration a claim of universal truth was completely untolerated.

She whispered the password and entered a basement. The Gloria Patri rose from her heart to her lips. Few joined in. It mattered not. Her heart provided all the harmony she needed.
 
Parson, I don't get it. Sorry, but it is as simple as that. From what I can tell:

Rachel is running from something
she has a claim of universal truth (from what I know of you Parson I can only assume this is related to Him)
She goes into a secret basement
? I don't know what the Gloria Patri is, when I first read it I though it was a woman's name.
Then she feels ok.

I think I'm missing the main part, in what a Gloria Patri is, I could have gone and looked it up, but I didn't (apathy.) I think sometimes my lack of knowledge means some of the deeper stories go over my head.


I also thought my entry last month was particularly good, but I didn't get any votes, and very few mentions. I wrote a poem, it was the devotion to the spoken word that I was showing (poetry should be orated) all tied up in a SF story of people communicating by thought which was the end of speaking. Also I thought the rhythm and rhyme would add to the devotion of how words are spoken. I think I didn't get the theme across well enough.
 
I suppose, Moonbat that Parson was trying to get across Rachel's devotion to God? For me, the 'devotion' theme didn't come across strongly enough.

As for your own entry, Moonbat I have to say that poetry just doesn't appeal to me - sorry :eek:. It never has. I always read the poems hoping that something will click, but it just never does.
 
Parson - The overall quality of the challenges was very high, making it difficult to choose, but I felt a bit like Mosaix, the devotion and the consequences didn't come across strongly enough for me.

Moonbat - I really liked your entry. I thought it was clever, and liked the rhythm and rhyme. It was on my shortlist.
 
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Parson, I got it, including the Patria Gloria (et Filio et Spiritui Sancto).

I should say that I thought the second paragraph was beautiful, reminding me of the feelings I experienced when I sang in a choir. However the issue for me was in the first paragraph. With the title referencing catacombs and the mention of 'Radical Secularists', with the inherent threat to Rachel's life and job, the last sentence in that first paragraph didn't add anything new.

Please understand this is purely a personal opinion, which others may disagree with. And, if it's any consolation, I thought 'Divine Intervention' from January to be a superb entry. This probably shows how subjective reading can be. That story connected with me much more than the February one did, whereas, I suspect, the opposite was true of you. Hope this helps. :)
 
I couldn't get my head round 'militant toleration'! I thought the idea was clever, though, and it was very well-written.

The association with ancient persecution of Christianity made me uncomfortable for some reason -- I didn't analyse why at the time, and I'm not sure where it came from even now I think about it. Sorry. I don't think that's very helpful.
 
Parson, I understood yours fine, and, at least for me, the devotion part was clear. I think there were just so many stellar entries that it kind of slid down the list and fell off. The only other thing that comes to mind is that it didn't strike a serious chord as far as being speculative -- which could be very alarming to you, I'm sure! More truth than poetry, eh?

I loved the "militant toleration" line -- that was my favorite!
 
I mentioned both so, phew, I can comment freely.

Moonbat, I loved the rhythm of yours. Add the content and rhyming and it was brilliant. Unfoetunately I think the amount of work you put into a poem is never reflected in tje votes. Hence I only entered one once, when desperate (thanks, chrispy ;))

Parson, I looked up Gloria Patri and then kicked myself when I saw what it was. It helped me fully understand what was going on. I wonder if some folks thought it didnt fit the genre well; it's a future dystopia but were people expecting more SFF? Spec fiction is probably broader but that may not have been taken into account.
 
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2087 – Back to the Catacombs

Rachel scurried down the alley. Furtively, she looked behind. If the Radical Secularists caught her, they might kill her. Accusations alone would guarantee that she would lose her job. In a world of militant toleration a claim of universal truth was completely untolerated.

She whispered the password and entered a basement. The Gloria Patri rose from her heart to her lips. Few joined in. It mattered not. Her heart provided all the harmony she needed.


I think it must've been because of the standard as I don't remember it clearly, but here alone I get it.

The first bit did bring to mind a Dr Who baddy called the Happiness Patrol from the 1980s. (People in pink hair being intolerant in their fight for everyone to be happy)

The second paragraph is beautiful. The phrases the Gloria Patri rose from her heart to her lips and her heart provided all the harmony she needed are really great depictions of the feelings involved in religious worship. I'm not sure if changing it to the hymn or something more obvious would've helped, but I've included references not everyone will get in this month's. Gloria Patri flows better.
 
Parson, I don't get it. Sorry, but it is as simple as that. From what I can tell:

Rachel is running from something
she has a claim of universal truth (from what I know of you Parson I can only assume this is related to Him)
She goes into a secret basement
? I don't know what the Gloria Patri is, when I first read it I though it was a woman's name.
Then she feels ok.

I think I'm missing the main part, in what a Gloria Patri is, I could have gone and looked it up, but I didn't (apathy.) I think sometimes my lack of knowledge means some of the deeper stories go over my head.


I also thought my entry last month was particularly good, but I didn't get any votes, and very few mentions. I wrote a poem, it was the devotion to the spoken word that I was showing (poetry should be orated) all tied up in a SF story of people communicating by thought which was the end of speaking. Also I thought the rhythm and rhyme would add to the devotion of how words are spoken. I think I didn't get the theme across well enough.
Thanks for your comments! I worried a bit using the name Gloria Patri, but I thought that it was quite well known, and that those who didn't would go look it up like I've had to innumerable times with mythology references.

Making it into a hymn is an interesting idea, but I'm not sure I could have pulled it off. I thought the dystopian nature of the piece was more than sufficient to fit the genre.

I suppose, Moonbat that Parson was trying to get across Rachel's devotion to God? For me, the 'devotion' theme didn't come across strongly enough.

As for your own entry, Moonbat I have to say that poetry just doesn't appeal to me - sorry :eek:. It never has. I always read the poems hoping that something will click, but it just never does.

Thanks for your comments! I'm sorry that you did not feel the devotion. I thought it was the strongest point of the story.

Parson - The overall quality of the challenges was very high, making it difficult to choose, but I felt a bit like Mosaix, the devotion and the consequences didn't come across strongly enough for me.

Moonbat - I really liked your entry. I thought it was clever, and liked the rhythm and rhyme. It was on my shortlist.

Thanks for your comments! I agree the standard was very high. I did think that the devotion and the consequences were clear, probably showing my own prejudice.

Parson, I got it, including the Patria Gloria (et Filio et Spiritui Sancto).

I should say that I thought the second paragraph was beautiful, reminding me of the feelings I experienced when I sang in a choir. However the issue for me was in the first paragraph. With the title referencing catacombs and the mention of 'Radical Secularists', with the inherent threat to Rachel's life and job, the last sentence in that first paragraph didn't add anything new.

Please understand this is purely a personal opinion, which others may disagree with. And, if it's any consolation, I thought 'Divine Intervention' from January to be a superb entry. This probably shows how subjective reading can be. That story connected with me much more than the February one did, whereas, I suspect, the opposite was true of you. Hope this helps. :)

Thanks for comments! I am so glad that you connected with Rachel's feelings. I was very happy with the thought of the last paragraph. I too have felt the presence of the numinous in choral singing.

I couldn't get my head round 'militant toleration'! I thought the idea was clever, though, and it was very well-written.

The association with ancient persecution of Christianity made me uncomfortable for some reason -- I didn't analyse why at the time, and I'm not sure where it came from even now I think about it. Sorry. I don't think that's very helpful.

Thanks for your comments! I guess part of my problem was that I too thought the idea of "militant toleration" was very clever, and perhaps a little prescient seeing the state of the Western Democracies. But that view is likely not shared outside the Christian faith.


Parson, I understood yours fine, and, at least for me, the devotion part was clear. I think there were just so many stellar entries that it kind of slid down the list and fell off. The only other thing that comes to mind is that it didn't strike a serious chord as far as being speculative -- which could be very alarming to you, I'm sure! More truth than poetry, eh?

I loved the "militant toleration" line -- that was my favorite!

Thanks for your comments! If it wasn't speculative, I'm a very worried Parson indeed!!

I mentioned both so, phew, I can comment freely.

Moonbat, I loved the rhythm of yours. Add the content and rhyming and it was brilliant. Unfoetunately I think the amount of work you put into a poem is never reflected in tje votes. Hence I only entered one once, when desperate (thanks, chrispy ;))

Parson, I looked up Gloria Patri and then kicked myself when I saw what it was. It helped me fully understand what was going on. I wonder if some folks thought it didnt fit the genre well; it's a future dystopia but were people expecting more SFF? Spec fiction is probably broader but that may not have been taken into account.

Thanks for your comments! I'm so glad that you did look up Gloria Patri. If I failed the genre test very often than I'm going to have to have a new definition of speculative fiction.

I think it must've been because of the standard as I don't remember it clearly, but here alone I get it.

The first bit did bring to mind a Dr Who baddy called the Happiness Patrol from the 1980s. (People in pink hair being intolerant in their fight for everyone to be happy)

The second paragraph is beautiful. The phrases the Gloria Patri rose from her heart to her lips and her heart provided all the harmony she needed are really great depictions of the feelings involved in religious worship. I'm not sure if changing it to the hymn or something more obvious would've helped, but I've included references not everyone will get in this month's. Gloria Patri flows better.

Thanks for your comments! I've never seen a Dr. Who episode so I wouldn't have known about that, but I can see the similarities clearly. I most pleased that you enjoyed the second paragraph. When I wrote it the first paragraph was to set the stage for the flowering of devotion in the second. It sounds from these replies that I was more effective in stating the devotion, than setting the stage.

I'm indebted to you all. This is a great site because of the people who populate it. :):)

Parson
 
It's probably not the best one to start with ;) as much as I love that particular story and it remains my favourite ever Dr Who the fact I like it makes me odd.
 
As threatened, I'm re-posting my March entry below, and would welcome any comment or feedback from any redaing this thread (many thanks!!):

Das Unheimliche


August 16th: summer hangs heavy in the air. Olive skinned, she lies facing seaward in the afternoon sun; belly-down against the chalky soil, amongst the downland scrub. Wounded by exalted angels, proud wings broken; blood and fire in her belly.

As beetles might, they gather cautiously around her in the grim glamour of such occasions: she is dying, and soon they shall dismember her.

Stricken griffin. Heinkel 111P. GI+FR. Kampfgeschwader 55; “Greif”. Sussex, 1940.


Thanks again - SC.
 
Hi, stormcrow. Although I appreciated the piece I just couldn't connect it to either the theme or the genre and, I have to say, for me that was true of a lot of the entries in March.
 
First of all, I loved the writing. I like the description and the whole feel of it.

My German is non-existent so the final sentence meant nothing to me, save that I knew the Heinkel was a German bomber in WWII, and I assumed this was the kind of notation used by the Germans when one of their aircraft was destroyed. So that was a little distancing, and unless it has some great relevance which escaped me (very possibly) it seemed to me a waste of the few words available.

However, although you mention griffin and angels, the way it was written, to me this felt more like metaphor for the planes rather than actual creatures, so I simply saw it as a bomber which had been shot down over Sussex in the war. A nice piece, well written, but I couldn't see how it fitted with the genre. Even if she were a real griffin, I still don't know that I'd count that as magic realism, either. Nor was there anything uncanny about the story for me -- though checking now I see that's how the title translates.
 
Stormcrow, I liked it, as I said before, but it seemed to me an extended metaphor rather than a story as such. Having said that, "they gather round her" and "she is dying" take it beyond metaphor, since an aircraft that has crashed is already about as dead as it can be. So I wasn't sure how to read these bits, and though there was a suggestion of something actually supernatural going on, it wasn't quite clear enough for me to make it magic realism (which as I understand it is the everyday occurrence and acceptance of magical happenings in a mundane setting).

As a piece of imaginative imagery, I'm not sure how it could be improved, and I don't think you could have overcome my reservations about it without making it something very different.

It was one of my favourite reads of the challenge, anyway.
 
Stormcrow

I was confused from the beginning to the end. It didn't seem like a story to me either. But it was obviously well researched on the human side of things. I keep thinking that there is some missing information that would turn the light on for me about the story, but I've not found it yet.
 
Yes, what they said.

The best I could figure was that the plane somehow found its way into the magical realm as it crashed, and was mistaken for a griffin there.
 
Wow! Thanks to you all for your feedback. Plenty there to be encouraged by, and some incisive comments about where seen as wide of the mark.

Am looking at what I wrote through new eyes.
 
Sorry for double post.

... That's incisive in a good way, of course.
 

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