Outcasts

I found this on the iPlayer at the weekend, and watched the first 2 episodes whilst catching up with the ironing (my exciting life!!:p)

Now, I don’t know enough about sf enough to be able to recognise that the transporter wasn’t a design that can make surface landings, and there are other aspects of such tales that I’m happy to take at face value.

But it seems to me that certain basic elements of telling a compelling story were missing, not that I’m an expert there either.

For me, the plot line that seems exceptionally weak is that of the transport, it’s passengers and crew, and the relationship with the citizens of Carpathia.

The transport appears to be the last they’ll see from Earth, and yet the general population, or anyone who is seen on screen, apart from the leaders, seem fairly apathetic about the whole thing. As it finally disintegrates on entry to the atmosphere, a barely perceptible shrug of shoulders and a muttered ‘blessing’ for the lost souls is all that is made of it.

In episode 2 it becomes apparent that more than one escape shuttle made it, and we see scenes of the survivors walking into Fort Haven. I would expect the general population and key workers to be there to meet and greet them – a triage set up for minor injuries, someone showing them where to line up and give their details – families desperate for news of loved ones crowding and pushing to get to these people who are their last lifeline to Earth. Not, as it seemed to me, a bunch of interestingly dressed people (wouldn't they be wearing ship suits or some kind of evacuation suit in the event of an emergency evacuation – not knowing where you might land??) just randomly walking through a town, not knowing where to go, and no one there to say ‘hello’.

There were other things too, but this really stood out for me as a very weak aspect of the plot, and I found it most annoying!

Anyway, I’ll catch up on last nights episode when I’m next doing the ironing and avoiding the Football/Rugby/Cricket/Golf etc and see if it gets better.
 
I must admit I watch little TV these days (I just find very little on TV that is appealing other than most Horizons). However I did watch the first episode and didn't bother with the second. I wasn't outraged by the appaling plot etc. etc. but it just seemed to me to be drab and uninspiring - I thought the actors looked frankly bored with their jobs. To be honest it just seemed par for the course on TV these days.

That's basically why I stopped watching TV three years ago and started reading seriously again - maybe I should actually thank the TV producers for that :p
 
I agree that episode 4 was the best so far.
 
It wouldn't be the first time I've thrown in the towel with a series only for it to at last get worth watching. (Why don't series writers bring in the good stuff right away, rather than faff around losing audience?) Did any of the other nay-sayers watch episode 4? I might watch it on iplayer later.
 
I think the problem is thats it's not been writen for the 10% hard sci-fi fans who understand/pull apart the science, but for the 90% who want to watch a show just to enjoy it. IMO last nights was really quite good, it had some overlapping story lines which i think will come together closer to the end. I for one am enjoying it at face value, and lets face it... theres nothing better on TV at that time on a mon/tues night.
 
Apparently it's been moved to late on Sunday nights... so the non-sf viewers weren't impressed either.
 
I didn't see episode 4, but for me twice a week is part of the problem. I can keep up once a week, but clearing two evenings free to watch a TV show would require something much more gripping than this. I've starting watching a lot of TV through iPlayer and the Wii so that you get it full screen on the normal TV, and on demand. Given that is possible, it no longer matters which day something is originally broadcast.
 
I can keep up once a week....

According to the online Radio Times, Outcasts is still on on the Mondays (fifth episode on the 21st and the sixth on the 28th), but the Tuesday slot has been given over to another (six-part) series, Silk.


(Perhaps Ian's sources are more up-to-date, though.)
 
I think the problem is thats it's not been writen for the 10% hard sci-fi fans who understand/pull apart the science, but for the 90% who want to watch a show just to enjoy it. IMO last nights was really quite good, it had some overlapping story lines which i think will come together closer to the end. I for one am enjoying it at face value, and lets face it... theres nothing better on TV at that time on a mon/tues night.

I would consider myself a sci-fi fan but I certainly don't read the books/watch the TV shows for the science. I am looking for stories uncontrained by the realities of this world and new social structures that can be formed under different internal and external pressures.

Getting the science right is merely a bonus, getting say the spaceship battle mechanics right (as Star Trek didn't) is merely incidental to the requirements of plot and characterisation.

Going back to Outcasts it has neither the inventiveness to keep a sci-fan interested, despite poor dialogue, acting etc (after all many a past sci-fi show has had wooden acting), nor the plot and characterisation to attract the general public.

Good Sci-fi can still attract a mass market. The same forums which are hammering Outcasts loved BSG.
 
According to the online Radio Times, Outcasts is still on on the Mondays (fifth episode on the 21st and the sixth on the 28th), but the Tuesday slot has been given over to another (six-part) series, Silk.


(Perhaps Ian's sources are more up-to-date, though.)

Next week's will be broadcast as currently, but the week after it's moving to Sunday.
 
Messing around with the days and times is even worse, but as Science Fiction fans we are use to that. It does seem to indicate that it wasn't quite as popular as they expected.
 
It wouldn't be the first time I've thrown in the towel with a series only for it to at last get worth watching. (Why don't series writers bring in the good stuff right away, rather than faff around losing audience?) Did any of the other nay-sayers watch episode 4? I might watch it on iplayer later.

Sadly, I did.

However there is hope. I'm signed up for the local evening classes. I've always wanted to learn knitting. Fortunately they are on Monday and Tuesdays at about the same time as this c**p is broadcast.

Oh damn, I've just read Dave's post. All that money wasted on course fees. Bu**ger!.

I wonder if the local art club has paint watching sessions.
 
Spoilers!








Where did thoose CUT diamonds come from? the sea can't do that.

And that gun blazing run the african-american dude did? and the fact he used pistols not the rifle that was over his shoulder, puuuur-lease, dramatic affect or what!

Did they check the watar for radioactivity, before they ran in? NO!

The cliffhanger at the end seems interesting, should give them a few more episodes to leech out of.

By the way, I think the actress that plays Fleur is stunning! ;)
 
I liked the way they kept standing up, presumably to give the ACs a bigger target to shoot at.
 
Haha, that bit was fun :p

Outcasts is developing an almost Star Trek: TOS habit. Beware, companion who gets one line to utter, for thou shalt meet thine end with great haste :D

Good ending, though.
 
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