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That should be easy to win - there'll only be three entries...
That should be easy to win - there'll only be three entries...
Discussion -- June 2011 Challenge
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And two of them will be off subject
Possibly about tractors
And two of them will be off subject
Possibly about tractors
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So... now that I have purchased an began reading ($1US) the Essential Works of Kipling, I realize the challenge will be a to capture Kipling's (uber)verbose writing style in a brief 75 words. I think the average Kipling sentence is 75 words
. I considered peotry, but thats not quite my cup of Kipling. It is also made difficult by the fact the he often wrote intimately about a country/culture Ive only encountered in movies. But... I think I have the earliest ticklings of an idea/technique. I have also made a point not to read anyone's story until I write my own, seeing as I don't want to affect my impression of Rudyard Kipling's style.
PS-Thanks Judge/anyone I missed who offered up encouragement following my last post.
PPS-Goodness this thread is moving at hyper-speed this month.
So... now that I have purchased an began reading ($1US) the Essential Works of Kipling, I realize the challenge will be a to capture Kipling's (uber)verbose writing style in a brief 75 words. I think the average Kipling sentence is 75 words
. I considered peotry, but thats not quite my cup of Kipling. It is also made difficult by the fact the he often wrote intimately about a country/culture Ive only encountered in movies. But... I think I have the earliest ticklings of an idea/technique. I have also made a point not to read anyone's story until I write my own, seeing as I don't want to affect my impression of Rudyard Kipling's style.PS-Thanks Judge/anyone I missed who offered up encouragement following my last post.
PPS-Goodness this thread is moving at hyper-speed this month.
Re: DISCUSSION the 75 Word Challenge JUNE 2011
Ever since Chris put up the theme/style, a couple of lines of *ahem* poetry have been rattling around my head. In view of the plethora of *double ahem* poetry this Challenge has inspired I feel it is time to share the whole thing with you all... http://rpo.library.utoronto.ca/poem/2010.html
Oddly, I thought this was a pastiche of another poem known as The Pedestrian's Plaint by EV Lucas, but checking the dates I see I'd got it completely the wrong way round, and the Plaint was written a good 30 years later (1925). I can't find that on the web, but to show why I thought that -- after moaning about "a speed which knows no reason//And the too contiguous hearse" and looking forward to the time when "the petrol-wells run dry" it ends:
That will be a day for fiddling,
Fun and festivals galore,
When the Armstrongs cease from siddling
And the Royces roll no more!
(Note for non-UK Chronners and youngsters -- Armstrong Siddeley made cars from 1919 on)
Ever since Chris put up the theme/style, a couple of lines of *ahem* poetry have been rattling around my head. In view of the plethora of *double ahem* poetry this Challenge has inspired I feel it is time to share the whole thing with you all... http://rpo.library.utoronto.ca/poem/2010.html
Oddly, I thought this was a pastiche of another poem known as The Pedestrian's Plaint by EV Lucas, but checking the dates I see I'd got it completely the wrong way round, and the Plaint was written a good 30 years later (1925). I can't find that on the web, but to show why I thought that -- after moaning about "a speed which knows no reason//And the too contiguous hearse" and looking forward to the time when "the petrol-wells run dry" it ends:
That will be a day for fiddling,
Fun and festivals galore,
When the Armstrongs cease from siddling
And the Royces roll no more!
(Note for non-UK Chronners and youngsters -- Armstrong Siddeley made cars from 1919 on)
GreenKidx
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Sorry for the double post, but in researching Kipling's passions/legacy, I was lead to the poem White Man's Burden, which left an awful taste in my mouth. Looking further it would seem Rudyard was quite opinionated and vocal about race relations. Luckily the only prose I read so far was his children's work, which lack the political view present on his adult works.
*Begins contemplating penning a poem called Brown Man's Burden... decides to stick with children's stories *
Sorry for the double post, but in researching Kipling's passions/legacy, I was lead to the poem White Man's Burden, which left an awful taste in my mouth. Looking further it would seem Rudyard was quite opinionated and vocal about race relations. Luckily the only prose I read so far was his children's work, which lack the political view present on his adult works.
*Begins contemplating penning a poem called Brown Man's Burden... decides to stick with children's stories
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GreenKidx, it's true that Kipling held many of the views on race common to his time, ethnicity and class, but read Gunga Din -- that shows he wasn't the mindless racist his detractors claim.
GreenKidx, it's true that Kipling held many of the views on race common to his time, ethnicity and class, but read Gunga Din -- that shows he wasn't the mindless racist his detractors claim.
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You could always go with Green Kid's Burden.... the burden being the one we all face with this challenge.
You could always go with Green Kid's Burden.... the burden being the one we all face with this challenge.
GreenKidx
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Yes, TheJudge, I can understand the context of the period in which Kipling was writing. I'm not particularly offended or anything. It just was a bit of a surprise when I read it with no fore warning. Believe you me, I'm well accustomed to reading such veiws. It come with the skin. It is simply one of those facts of life that you are well aware of but just very tired of being reminded of. I'm sure you get a similar feeling when reading many of the old/sexist/offensive (but common for the times depictions of women). Ill be sure to find Gunga Din today and give it a read.
And Platty, I actually really like that idea!
Yes, TheJudge, I can understand the context of the period in which Kipling was writing. I'm not particularly offended or anything. It just was a bit of a surprise when I read it with no fore warning. Believe you me, I'm well accustomed to reading such veiws. It come with the skin. It is simply one of those facts of life that you are well aware of but just very tired of being reminded of. I'm sure you get a similar feeling when reading many of the old/sexist/offensive (but common for the times depictions of women). Ill be sure to find Gunga Din today and give it a read.
And Platty, I actually really like that idea!
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I really do not know how to go about this this month, and have even considered not doing my normal comments, simply because... well because... but I’m going to give it a go. As normal no offence intended. In a moment of madness I thought of something at the last minute, so some comments might feel a little uh shoehorned...
This first batch takes me to the end of the first page of entries as I see it on the screen.
Alchemist - IF you can keep your head when all about you – Well someone certainly kept their head at the start of the challenge, leaping in with the first entry. Well constructed, a nice bit of regional accent thrown in, and amusing and entertaining. It made me smirk while reading it.
PM – It’s a great little entry, the second poem of the month, in keeping with the theme and a grim genuine example of war. Although it catches the Kipling feeling; and the sanity generals Are losing theirs and blaming it on you, the common soldier. (In some way it reminded me of Charge of the Light Brigade by Tennyson – not a bad thing by a long shot)
Chaoticheart - If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you, or yourself when you see the challenge and turn in something this good, then you are doing something right and well. This has that exotic feel that is so pervasive in much of Kipling’s work, different again to the previous two. Excellent.
High Eight – Despite the shock expressed at Chris' choice of style, and all the doubts people expressed, this is another good job, it seems that being put under pressure just increases the quality level that the writers turn in especially when we realise that we have to But make allowance for their doubting too; The first text piece continues the very high standard, an excellent ghost tale.
Slack – This feels of someone trying to see the best they can in everyone, trying to live to an ideal and improving others with words and occupation, or choice thereof. I felt there was a nice connection between someone suffering loss, while the speaker still had that, which his patient had lost. The patience one must display in waiting for the help to pay off is immense - If you can wait and not be tired by waiting...
Psychotick – There is a dark humour, a preeminent truth here, in a well written piece, the Hyena certainly told the truth but in some ways there is a darkness in it - Or being lied about, don't deal in lies, you would have thought the Hyena would have dealt in lies, but in fact it was a truth, and Mowgli paid for it...
Harebrain – I’m tempted to say that the end of this one is just sick... but it’s a great way of interpreting the theme, and emulating the style of another. I’m not sure whether Kipling would have reached the same ending mind you! Everyone seems to be rising to the challenge, no matter how much they seemed to dislike it - Or being hated, don't give way to hating, just do.
Perp – What kind of sick freak could have done this to beloved characters!!! He should be lambasted until the end of time. And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise: - which is exactly how Mowgli was meant to be seen at the end. And yes, I was thinking of the Disney characters when I wrote it.
Scalem X - If you can dream - and not make dreams your master; - SX dreamt up something a little special with this one, at least from my point of view. Seeing a darker side of life, almost grim in its look at a side of life and tourism we quite easily turn our eyes from, he reminds us that behind the baubles and souveniers those selling have far simpler dreams they would be happy to master.
The Spurring Platty - If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim; How very apt? A protagonist who seems contented, but in an introduction to the things he finds better, he starts thinking about different, better things only to find it is better to be happy with your lot... food and fine things cannot fill a spiritual need.
Christian Nash - If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster – The triumph here a massive gas guzzling behemoth been driven by some ignorant lout, and a disaster, for the driver at least when the car cuts out... but probably a triumph for everyone else. Nice different take on the nourishment theme.
Aun Doorbback - And treat those two impostors just the same; Imposter perhaps because assuming to use the name of Gunga Din; but ultimately this is a magnificent piece by AD, a triumph a style and line.
Bob S. Sr. - If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken then you will find them here. I thought this was another superb piece, well rhymed with a good ‘story’ in place and a message too. It seemed to tick all the right boxes.
Karn - Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, - Some might say that this line could be applied to Chris for creating this challenge in the first place, making us all the fools, but everyone has risen to the challenge so well. Despite the fact he felt the pressure, this entry is sheer Karn, a great little story, exquisitely produced that easily meets the requirements and parameters of the challenge. If I’m not mistaken a sacrifice to appease the hunger, and it’s always the most innocent who loses the draw.
I really do not know how to go about this this month, and have even considered not doing my normal comments, simply because... well because... but I’m going to give it a go. As normal no offence intended. In a moment of madness I thought of something at the last minute, so some comments might feel a little uh shoehorned...
This first batch takes me to the end of the first page of entries as I see it on the screen.
Alchemist - IF you can keep your head when all about you – Well someone certainly kept their head at the start of the challenge, leaping in with the first entry. Well constructed, a nice bit of regional accent thrown in, and amusing and entertaining. It made me smirk while reading it.
PM – It’s a great little entry, the second poem of the month, in keeping with the theme and a grim genuine example of war. Although it catches the Kipling feeling; and the sanity generals Are losing theirs and blaming it on you, the common soldier. (In some way it reminded me of Charge of the Light Brigade by Tennyson – not a bad thing by a long shot)
Chaoticheart - If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you, or yourself when you see the challenge and turn in something this good, then you are doing something right and well. This has that exotic feel that is so pervasive in much of Kipling’s work, different again to the previous two. Excellent.
High Eight – Despite the shock expressed at Chris' choice of style, and all the doubts people expressed, this is another good job, it seems that being put under pressure just increases the quality level that the writers turn in especially when we realise that we have to But make allowance for their doubting too; The first text piece continues the very high standard, an excellent ghost tale.
Slack – This feels of someone trying to see the best they can in everyone, trying to live to an ideal and improving others with words and occupation, or choice thereof. I felt there was a nice connection between someone suffering loss, while the speaker still had that, which his patient had lost. The patience one must display in waiting for the help to pay off is immense - If you can wait and not be tired by waiting...
Psychotick – There is a dark humour, a preeminent truth here, in a well written piece, the Hyena certainly told the truth but in some ways there is a darkness in it - Or being lied about, don't deal in lies, you would have thought the Hyena would have dealt in lies, but in fact it was a truth, and Mowgli paid for it...
Harebrain – I’m tempted to say that the end of this one is just sick... but it’s a great way of interpreting the theme, and emulating the style of another. I’m not sure whether Kipling would have reached the same ending mind you! Everyone seems to be rising to the challenge, no matter how much they seemed to dislike it - Or being hated, don't give way to hating, just do.
Perp – What kind of sick freak could have done this to beloved characters!!! He should be lambasted until the end of time. And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise: - which is exactly how Mowgli was meant to be seen at the end. And yes, I was thinking of the Disney characters when I wrote it.
Scalem X - If you can dream - and not make dreams your master; - SX dreamt up something a little special with this one, at least from my point of view. Seeing a darker side of life, almost grim in its look at a side of life and tourism we quite easily turn our eyes from, he reminds us that behind the baubles and souveniers those selling have far simpler dreams they would be happy to master.
The Spurring Platty - If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim; How very apt? A protagonist who seems contented, but in an introduction to the things he finds better, he starts thinking about different, better things only to find it is better to be happy with your lot... food and fine things cannot fill a spiritual need.
Christian Nash - If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster – The triumph here a massive gas guzzling behemoth been driven by some ignorant lout, and a disaster, for the driver at least when the car cuts out... but probably a triumph for everyone else. Nice different take on the nourishment theme.
Aun Doorbback - And treat those two impostors just the same; Imposter perhaps because assuming to use the name of Gunga Din; but ultimately this is a magnificent piece by AD, a triumph a style and line.
Bob S. Sr. - If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken then you will find them here. I thought this was another superb piece, well rhymed with a good ‘story’ in place and a message too. It seemed to tick all the right boxes.
Karn - Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, - Some might say that this line could be applied to Chris for creating this challenge in the first place, making us all the fools, but everyone has risen to the challenge so well. Despite the fact he felt the pressure, this entry is sheer Karn, a great little story, exquisitely produced that easily meets the requirements and parameters of the challenge. If I’m not mistaken a sacrifice to appease the hunger, and it’s always the most innocent who loses the draw.
Chaoticheart
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Re: DISCUSSION the 75 Word Challenge JUNE 2011
Thanks as always for some great comments Perp. I loved your act of 'madness'. Fitting each entry, in order, to the corresponding line must've taken some work. So double thanks for this month
Oh and ICWUTYOUDIDTHAR in Karn's comment. 'Sheer Karn'... you've wanted to say that since the theme was decided haven't you? Bad, Perp. Bad! Only Ursa may make horrible puns!
Thanks as always for some great comments Perp. I loved your act of 'madness'. Fitting each entry, in order, to the corresponding line must've taken some work. So double thanks for this month
Oh and ICWUTYOUDIDTHAR in Karn's comment. 'Sheer Karn'... you've wanted to say that since the theme was decided haven't you? Bad, Perp. Bad! Only Ursa may make horrible puns!
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Whistling innocently...
Whistling innocently...
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Howdy,
Thank you Perp Man for the kind words, superb indeed, oh shucks you didn't have to say that, on the other I would be crushed if you had not said them.
And now on to serious business, I was sitting in the back yard day dreaming, when a wild thought entered my mind. IF-----I should ever win one of these challenges the only possible theme would have to be------TRACTORS IN SPACE-----in the style of Woody Allen
Howdy,
Thank you Perp Man for the kind words, superb indeed, oh shucks you didn't have to say that, on the other I would be crushed if you had not said them.
And now on to serious business, I was sitting in the back yard day dreaming, when a wild thought entered my mind. IF-----I should ever win one of these challenges the only possible theme would have to be------TRACTORS IN SPACE-----in the style of Woody Allen
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Good one Parson
MstrTal, I forgot to mention-------REAL tractors are red!
Good one Parson
MstrTal, I forgot to mention-------REAL tractors are red!
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And I also forgot to thank Gary for the tip on the Wurzels web site, love em, they are great! My kinda entertainment, real down home stuff.
And I also forgot to thank Gary for the tip on the Wurzels web site, love em, they are great! My kinda entertainment, real down home stuff.
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And I'm not. Anyone can make a pun here, karn't they? They don't have to ask, and haven't for ages. And they certainly don't have to go on bended knee and plead, if only because we're no longer in the so-called Beg Era....
I hope, Chaoticheart, that you're not suggesting I'm ploughing a lonely furrow.
And I'm not. Anyone can make a pun here, karn't they? They don't have to ask, and haven't for ages. And they certainly don't have to go on bended knee and plead, if only because we're no longer in the so-called Beg Era....
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'Words are,of course, the most powerful drug used by mankind'
PM, mentioning me in the same breath as Tennyson ; I'm certainly on a high.
'Words are,of course, the most powerful drug used by mankind'
PM, mentioning me in the same breath as Tennyson ; I'm certainly on a high.
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Of course,we all know now that whistling innocently makes you look the most guilty man in the room...
Unless , of course, someone else has a goatee
Of course,we all know now that whistling innocently makes you look the most guilty man in the room...
Unless , of course, someone else has a goatee
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Any local show around here where I am has to play the Wurzels (that's if they're not actually there). Now I love the Wurzels, but when my town decides to play the Blackbird song stupidly loudly at 2am... I kinda don't love them so much! (Glad you're a fan now though, Bob!)
Back on topic... There's a lot of poems! It's going to be difficult to judge this month, I think, because everything's quite similar. I can't even get anything for 'nourishment' yet though!
Any local show around here where I am has to play the Wurzels (that's if they're not actually there). Now I love the Wurzels, but when my town decides to play the Blackbird song stupidly loudly at 2am... I kinda don't love them so much! (Glad you're a fan now though, Bob!)
Back on topic... There's a lot of poems! It's going to be difficult to judge this month, I think, because everything's quite similar. I can't even get anything for 'nourishment' yet though!
Karn Maeshalanadae
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Re: DISCUSSION the 75 Word Challenge JUNE 2011
Nourishment is easy Mouse.
If it was just nourishment you could do something about Snow White's evil stepmother taking Snow White's soul to feed her immortal beauty.
But with Kipling you'd probably have to have Kaa the Snake in there somewhere. Phooey.
Nourishment is easy Mouse.
If it was just nourishment you could do something about Snow White's evil stepmother taking Snow White's soul to feed her immortal beauty.
But with Kipling you'd probably have to have Kaa the Snake in there somewhere.
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