New Chapter for TWOW

Arianne has already been a POV character in aFFC guys
 
Now i know i should restrain myself.
With the last book i already read 100 pages in samples.
But i can't bring melf to do it.
 
Somehow, this Sample offers even less new info that Theon's did. I didn't think that possible.
 
It tells us quite a bit about the thinking of both Prince Doran and Jon Connington (assuming the letter can be taken at face value...).

Would Connington have sent it to anyone else? Would other great lords have sent someone as highborn as Arianne to investigate the letter and its source? (Yes, Doran is interested in the fate of his son, but he's putting someone he's told is his heir into a very dangerous position. Either he was lying about the succession, or he is completely committed to the successful return of the Targs, even though he can't see how Dany is involved with Connington.)
 
I'm finding it very hard not to be cynical. My only memory of the Dornish in AFFC was that they were all pretty irrelevant and peripheral to the story.

It is a nicely written chapter, though - it opens strong, and later on talks about Jon Connington.

However, am still left bugged by the idea that the Dornish remained unimportant and peripheral, and Jon Connington, for all his exotic curiosity in suddenly appearing, can only mean that he, too, is ultimately unimportant and peripheral to the story.

It's a chapter that neither confirms that the story is getting back on its feet, but neither denies that it may be another AFFC. I am in a very cynical mood today, though.
 
Ursa major said:
It tells us quite a bit about the thinking of both Prince Doran and Jon Connington (assuming the letter can be taken at face value...).

Would Connington have sent it to anyone else? Would other great lords have sent someone as highborn as Arianne to investigate the letter and its source? (Yes, Doran is interested in the fate of his son, but he's putting someone he's told is his heir into a very dangerous position. Either he was lying about the succession, or he is completely committed to the successful return of the Targs, even though he can't see how Dany is involved with Connington.)
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I've always somehow felt Prince Doran doesn't care about Arianne that much. She is a piece in his game (a relatively valuable one, but no piece is indispensable when the situation calls for it), someone with whom he would never share his thoughts and plans unless it's a must. I feel like he has given her this mission only to make her feel important and, if Connington really brought back the son of Elia, to possibly seduce the boy. Think about it. He could marry his daughter to a future king like he planned, his son to another possible pretender on the throne and not leave Dorne to Arianne (I feel like he really doesn't want Arianne as his successor). So, about Doran's treatment of Arianne, Sample doesn't tell me anything I didn't already know.

About Dorans commitment to the successful return of the Targs, I think it is all about revenge on that one. Revenge on everyone who profited from Targs' and consequently his sister's downfall. Martells are a vengeful lot. Doran had been planning that for a very long time. Restoring Targs is something that none of those who brought them down would want. Ever. A perfect revenge on all of them in one move, making all their loses and all their efforts futile in the end. But again, I knew that.

Connington is no fool. I don't think anyone nearly as important as Doran was notified. It was kind of obvious he would notify Doran, he is the only potential supporter (Elia's brother who loved his sister dearly) and that is what Varys had already planned for him in advance. Besides, Jon is dying. He needs someone powerful to solve this as soon as possible before he succumbs to his illness.

For me, the sample, does very little. :(
 
Am I the only one who felt at least half of Arianna sexual thoughts where unnecessary. And brought little to the plot.

Unless:
A) To remind us she does not mind a bit of sex.
B)She does not mind using sex to her adavantage.
C)The Dornish in general aren't that squemish about sex.
D)Make her look like a more feminine, less capable version of Asha.
(Though Asha did not achieve much either)
E) Apparently she has a thing for bad boys
F) Can posible be swayed, seducted and used by pretty boys --> Aegon probably is that)

Some sexual parts in the book fit perfectly, and bring colour to the story.
But in this chapter it was just flat and imo (i repeat myself) unnecessary

GRRM is also suffering a bit from what i call the Feist syndrome.
Whilst he does it better than him, like Feist he seemed to feel the need to remind the reader of what happened.(Quentin - Darkstar)
 
I have decided not to read it, the Theon chapter left me wanting for more. Its like giving a cleaned up former recreational drug user, a shot of the best drug once a year.

Pure torture.
 
I haven't read the Theon chapter, nor will I read this one. I found my reading of aDWD slightly less enjoyable than it would have been (in the beginning) because I had read all of the sample chapters.
 
Peeves said:
Am I the only one who felt at least half of Arianna sexual thoughts where unnecessary. And brought little to the plot.

Unless:
A) To remind us she does not mind a bit of sex.
B)She does not mind using sex to her adavantage.
C)The Dornish in general aren't that squemish about sex.
D)Make her look like a more feminine, less capable version of Asha.
(Though Asha did not achieve much either)
E) Apparently she has a thing for bad boys
F) Can posible be swayed, seducted and used by pretty boys --> Aegon probably is that)

Some sexual parts in the book fit perfectly, and bring colour to the story.
But in this chapter it was just flat and imo (i repeat myself) unnecessary
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Completely agree. Other than introducing potential conflict I didn't find this nearly as interesting as the Theon chapter.
 
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