Star Wars: Rebels

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[Wazkal]

Ah! Thanks for all the great links! I'm very much looking forward to this show, as I really enjoyed TCW, both the cartoon and the animated series.

I was, however, a little disappointed about what seems like a "re-do" of sorts, of the original trilogy. With all the characters from Rebels matching up so well with the characters from A New Hope. I find that, at least for the time being, they all seem copy-pasted. I you guys don't know what I mean, you should go to 4lomkuss.com (From 4-LOM to Zuckuss) and see the entry from feb 28th. This is of course just my opinion, and theirs of course.

I am of course still super excited about the show, as any Star Wars is better than no Star Wars at all!

 

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Yet another new character has been unveiled: Zeb. On the ship the show will follow, the Ghost, Zeb is the "muscle." Here's Disney's description of him:

Zeb is a well-trained honor guard and is highly educated, according to executive producer Dave Filoni, which juxtaposes his brutish, alien appearance. He's voiced by Steve Blum, who says, "He's got a bit of a chip on his shoulder, hates Chopper and is starting to build a relationship with Ezra, begrudgingly."

Zeb's favorite pastime: beating up Stormtroopers, or bucket heads, as he's heard calling them. He's an agile fighter, using his hands, feet, and acrobatics. But there is more to Zeb than pounding Imperials. "It's just going to be exciting to develop him and his bizarre new species," says Filoni, "and to explain to the audience where he came from.

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Ooooo Mandalorian Tank-Girl. She's sexy and spicy.

 

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Yet another new character has been unveiled: Zeb. On the ship the show will follow, the Ghost, Zeb is the "muscle." Here's Disney's description of him:

He's an agile fighter, using his hands, feet, and acrobatics. But there is more to Zeb than pounding Imperials. "It's just going to be exciting to develop him and his bizarre new species," says Filoni, "and to explain to the audience where he came from.

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It looks like he's carrying lightsabres in his backpack... I wonder if he uses them in his "acrobatics" and if his developing story relates to him being Force sensitive.

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Hera, captain of the Ghost, pilots her starship during a battle with two TIE fighters. Chopper delivers a message from Kanan, currently engaging the TIEs in the top turret. The Jedi is apparently displeased with Hera's maneuvering. In response, she takes matters into her own hands…

Absolutely Brilliant.

 

[BenSt]

I'm a little confused, why are they creating new Jedi when there are so many already pre-existing survivors? I mean, yes, Yoda and Obi Wan are off limits... but what about Quinlan Vos? Kento Marek? Rahm Kota?

 

[Huttman]

This is only conjecture on my part, but it seems Disney wants, or is insisting, of NOTHING that has been previously established before. With of course the exception of Han, Luke, Leia and the droids as they are iconic and a guaranteed cash cow if they bring them back. While it has been suggested the characters from Rebels were entirely created by Filoni and his team, I cannot help but feel these new characters come from a Disney cartoon. I know I will probably enjoy this show very much considering who is making it, but I have a strong suspicion there have been meetings to define who these people will be like and look like. That may be a given with any creative process, but Disney sure does have a 'style', and Rebels hints of it. We shall see...

 

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I'm a little confused, why are they creating new Jedi when there are so many already pre-existing survivors? I mean, yes, Yoda and Obi Wan are off limits... but what about Quinlan Vos? Kento Marek? Rahm Kota?

Why do to do that when they've a chance to create their very own ones?

Sure, Disney didn't create Star Wars in the first place, or in the second as I believe Hasbro had something to say on that, but now that they own whole franchise, they can move on from old characters and abandon most of Lucas creations to promote their own "heros and villains."

 

[BenSt]

Why do to do that when they've a chance to create their very own ones?

Sure, Disney didn't create Star Wars in the first place, or in the second as I believe Hasbro had something to say on that, but now that they own whole franchise, they can move on from old characters and abandon most of Lucas creations to promote their own "heros and villains."

I suppose for me, the more you create from scratch the more the danger of straying from established canon increases. One of the major strengths of the Star Wars Universe for me is it's powerful rules controlling canonicity, and now that Disney has taken over I just hope they respect what came before. Retconning is okay, but blatantly undermining the efforst of previous creators to me would be disrespecftul. Not that I'm saying Disney will do this, I hope they don't.

 

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Executive producer Dave Filoni addressed concerns about the new show being "too light" in tone by saying:

I would also say that it's different than the previous era of Clone Wars and Star Wars because we were really the only game in town. There wasn't almost anything else being made, certainly nothing else by George Lucas. Now we're looking at all types of Star Wars media coming out. I think that it all can't be the same. I would expect, as is a tradition in video games — those things seem to be darker — the new movies, what tone they'll have I don't know; maybe dark, maybe not dark. But I think there needs to be a range. There are other types of movies being made as well in Star Wars, and who knows what realm they'll go into. The good thing is, we're all on the same page at Lucasfilm... and I know more than I'm letting on. [Laughs] Obviously. But I just play it that way. No followup questions!
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He also broke down the characters, including Kanan:

Kanan is a great character to me because I've always wondered what happened to Jedi in this time period. Did they just go quietly into the night? Did any of them survive Order 66? How many of them survived Order 66? What were their experiences like? So with Kanan, it was a real chance to sit down and see the aftermath of the events of the Clone Wars. It's all particularly topical for me, because I just spent the last eight years fighting the Clone Wars. So now to be dealing with a bunch of characters who are dealing with the repercussions of that era, it's really kind of fascinating. When I look at Kanan, I could pretty quickly guess who he is and where he was. Always with Jedi you start to want to go, "Well, how can we make this guy different?" I think what people will find, I hope, is that he's a different kind of mentor than Obi-Wan was.

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Star Wars Rebels: Dave Filoni Discusses the Approach, the Characters and Fan Skepticism - IGN

 

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"Concentrate your fire on the Jedi," said a nameless stormtooper in SW Rebels. Classic. Almost as classic as Admiral Ackbar shouts in the original trilogy.

 

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Actor John Morton told a Star Wars convention in England that Star Wars Rebels is very important to the whole universe:

Rebels is the key. Rebels will provide the link to bring in the continuity from Clone Wars, the Original Trilogy and the Prequels to enable LucasFilm and Disney to tee-up 'Episode VII'. If you want my informed opinion, it will enable 'Episode VII' to leapfrog over the whole trilogy.


. . . The key that is going to make this work is Rebels. Rebels will set up and point the direction for 'Episode VII'.
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Exclusive! Character and Plot Details Revealed For 'Star Wars: Episode VII'

 

[Huttman]

One of the greater injustices done to Revenge of the Sith was the exclusion of the scenes filmed that showed the uneasy start of the rebellion...or at least they were before this show was created. Those scenes included in the original dvd release showed Padme, Mon Mothma, Bail Organa and several other senators discussing the galactic situation before them. I do hope this show ties in (or even recreates through flashback) some of those scenes as they really are so important to the story. I am looking forward to this show very much and I have a lot of confidence in the creators of it so I won't let my Disney apprehension get the better of me. After all, they do look like Disney characters a bit. Ah well, that trailer whetted my appetite for Rebels a lot and if the stories aren't dumbed down like The Clone Wars proved a kids show does not have to be to be quality, I'm in.

Revenge of the Sith Deleted Scene 2 - A Stirring In The Senate - YouTube

 

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New Trailer

 

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Executive producer Dave Filoni says that the show will live on fringes of major events in the Star Wars universe:

We started this Rebel activity back in Clone Wars with an arc called "The Onderon Arc." Where we see the Jedi empowering local military groups to fight back for their own little planets. And in George [Lucas]'s big scheme, it was these small groups that began the fledgling rebellion against the Empire. So we have this much bigger architecture of a plan that this is all setup against. So the same way you hear in A New Hope, "The Imperial Senate has been dismissed," we don't see any of that stuff. They just say it. There are these bigger things that we've thought out in the background, but we would like to stay focused on our characters.
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Filoni also explained how the show's villain, the Inquisitor, fits in with the established history and timeline of Star Wars:

Now in Star Wars lore, Obi Wan says Darth Vader hunted down the Jedi. But you guys have introduced another villain, The Inquisitor. Why introduce a whole new character to do the same thing? Especially when we already have a Sith Lord apprentice thing with Vader and the Emperor. Now you add a third character into the mix. Talk about why and how it's gonna work.

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Star Wars Rebels Interview: Dave Filoni Answers Burning Questions

 

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As Disney’s continuation of the cinematic Star Wars universe continues to develop, and we inch slowly towards Episode VII’s December 2015 release date, we will shortly have a tie-in to watch while we wait.

Star Wars Rebels, the animated televisual tale of the Rebel Alliance’s early days, has now been confirmed to reach screens worldwide on 3 October. If you have access to Watch Disney’s website or app, you can watch the opening episode as early as 29 September.

http://www.denofgeek.com/tv/star-wars/31794/star-war-rebels-gets-a-launch-date

 

[Huttman]

This "Art Attack" short has something that worries me in it. Sabine's bomb on the T.I.E. Fighter's wing made a HUGE explosion and the Stormtroopers paid the comic relief of having been knocked down with paint all over them going 'Gee, what happened?' That would have NEVER happened pre-disney. The previous clips, for which I have been very excited about, have shown violence for what is was. I hope this show does not go all cutsey. I cannot help but feel there is a lot of mouse influence in this show. I am not a super hero fan nor do I watch the shows, but I was wondering, do they also have a heavy handed disney feel about them? The characters of Rebels feels like disney characters so much. I wonder if I am biased.

 

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Huttman, you're absolutely right with your feelings. All that I've seen from the very beginning has had that special "Disney" feeling, but in the same time I know that Disney isn't actually shy on hurting their characters or killing them off, but all in all, I really miss battle-droids. They were previous lot comic relief, and they were very good at that, but before we see couple of episodes we cannot say it's really effed-up.