Lets Talk About Things Science Cannot Explain

[BAYLOR]

The Inexplicable will exist as long as there are things about physics that we do not understand. This is a condition that I'd almost go out on the limb and say will exist until the end of time-at least for each of us. The more we know the more we realize that there is further more to know. What is inexplicable today may be tomorrow's breakthrough science.

And if that were not enough there are some who take advantage of what is known and render it inexplicable-we often call these people magicians. Sometimes they are just con artists.

I like the Schrodinger example; because I think that's where a lot of the inexplicable belongs. There is a lot to be said for how much the observer influences the outcome of something; and when observing that which we cannot explain it seems there would be the triggering of several different influences that might cloud the ability to get to the heart of things.

We see that in recent research involving exceeding the speed of light and what was once called spook action at a distance that seem plagued with being tainted by the observer and sometimes by the limitations of the equipment used to measure the phenomenon. Instrument limitations often are closely tied with our limited knowledge of physics; which makes for baby steps as we learn more we can build more to help objectify or observations. These steps oddly create a pattern that screams out intelligent design which means that for answers to a few other questions brought up here we might require more time to understand the physics of the universe.

Well said.

 

[BAYLOR]

How could a planet like Kepler 78B exist the way it does, Rocky and Earth size and and as close to it's sun as it is?

 

[mosaix]

Can science understand Erich Von Daniken...?

A combination of greed on his part and gullibility on the part of his followers.

 

[hardsciencefanagain]

Add "äs yet" to the title and i might say:

the Cambrian Explosion

 

[BigBadBob141]

On the subject of unexplained photos, there is a famous Solway Firth Spaceman (look it up on Wiki).
Taken in 1964 by Jim Templeton, it show his young daughter on a picnic with what appears to be a space suited figure looming up behind her.
Templeton swears there was no one there behind his daughter when he took the shot.
Kodak examined the negative at the time and state that it had not been tampered with.
Modern analysis suggests it is probable the back of his wife who wandered into the shot, her blue dress is over exposed and looks white.
Also her dark hair forms the helmets visor, but this does not explain what looks like the dome of the helmet above the visor?
Altogether pretty strange!

 

[Dennis E. Taylor]

You can see that the spaceman has its back to the camera by examining the elbow on the right side of the picture. With the shading under the forearm, you can see that the elbow is pointing towards the camera.

 

[Ray McCarthy]

Unanswered questions about the Solar System

http://xkcd.com/1547/

 

[BAYLOR]

Unanswered questions about the Solar System

http://xkcd.com/1547/

Hm, Lots' of things we don't know .

 

[BigBadBob141]

REF:Bizmuth
I agree it does look like that with the elbow.
But it still does not explain the dome on top of the apparent visor?

 

[Venusian Broon]

Here's someone's analysis of the photo. I have no idea if the 'false colour proof' is trickery or a valid way of looking at the photo! :

The thing is that the 'spaceman' is out of focus and over exposed in strong light. The photographer when he was asked what the 'bizarre tall figure' he stated he hadn't seen it and there was no one else there with them. What we should note though is that he was there with his daughters and wife, and although he claimed at the time he had not taken a photograph with his wife in the background my guess is, like many snaps people take, he wasn't really thinking too hard when he did it and therefore didn't notice his wife, who after all was not out out of place in his mind on a family visit to the countryside!

 

[Ray McCarthy]

I agree. I did massive over-exposure correction (nothing else) in PSP7. The "helmet" then just looks like out of focus hair. The body and arms then look also just like someone in a T-Shirt or short sleeved blouse or Polo shirt, not like a spacesuit. The shoulder blades are obvious.
You can see the depth of field is poor and even the foreground girl is over-exposed on the arms, especially the one facing sun resting on her leg.

 

[Dave]

The way our brain sees colours depending on the brightness of the light is very complicated. There was a huge debate recently on Twitter about a picture of a blue and black Wedding Dress that looked to be gold and white. Even when shown the actually dress people still didn't believe it. It was even on BBC TV News. That is even without factoring in the way colours seen in the sky are affected by both the light intensity, direction, and the size of dust/water/ice particles. That is partly why I am not persuaded by a lot of UFO pictures that are meant to be aliens. And those are just the real pictures, when you consider how many fakes there must also be, there isn't very much left.

 

[Ray McCarthy]

there isn't very much left.

Possibly none!
Add lens artefacts (due to reflections of sun inside it and if there is an iris inside lens) when bright sun off axis at particular angles (It's reproducible on many cameras, especially some Zoom lenses.) and you lose a bunch more.

Actual film is even worse than our eyes or digital sensors when there is over-exposure.
Very long exposures too give ghost effects when someone walks past and stops momentarily.

 

[J Riff]

Meanwhile, aliens studying the Earth are amazed that creatures could make a go of it with so little hard radiation and chlorine in the air.

 

[BigBadBob141]

So another mystery solved!!!

 

[Venusian Broon]

So another mystery solved!!!

Well not quite solved, I'd say it that it was a piccy of his wife was probably the correct solution, but then apparently his wife was a slight woman so the back (if that is what it is) looks a bit too big.

However don't you always feel a little deflated when a juicy mystery seems to be nailed down and solved

There's a candidate for Jack the Ripper that I saw in a recent TV program that actually seems to be the one - it just seemed right - and all that frenzied world building on god knows how many suspects and theories over the past 100 years just seems to wither away...

 

[BAYLOR]

Zeitious

Well not quite solved, I'd say it that it was a piccy of his wife was probably the correct solution, but then apparently his wife was a slight woman so the back (if that is what it is) looks a bit too big.

However don't you always feel a little deflated when a juicy mystery seems to be nailed down and solved

There's a candidate for Jack the Ripper that I saw in a recent TV program that actually seems to be the one - it just seemed right - and all that frenzied world building on god knows how many suspects and theories over the past 100 years just seems to wither away...

They will never know for sure who Jack the Ripper was .


Have you seen the Photo known and The Ghostly Airman of Goddard's Squadron ?

also of interest Zeitoun Egypt 1968 to 1973

 

[Venusian Broon]

They will never know for sure who Jack the Ripper was

yes of course...but this was the by far the best theory I've seen that really explains quite a lot of the case (and believe me I've read lots and living in the East End myself I've been a little obsessed by them - even going on impromptu tours of the main 'sites')

 

[BAYLOR]

yes of course...but this was the by far the best theory I've seen that really explains quite a lot of the case (and believe me I've read lots and living in the East End myself I've been a little obsessed by them - even going on impromptu tours of the main 'sites')

Jack also could have been more then one person committing the copycat crimes. It's just a thought and after last official killing wasn't there a addition spree of similar to the Ripper murders in another city in England at that time?

What do you think on The Ghostly Airman and Zeitoun ?

 

[BigBadBob141]

Another interesting photo(very famous) is The Brown Lady of Raynham Hall, Norfolk taken on 19th September 1936.
This shows a ghostly figure on a staircase which was also seen by witnesses at the time.