"Personal" question(s) to John Jarrold

So, you receive a novel which you believe has a chance… What is it like on your end when you send it to a publisher? Is it a detached process, meaning that you simply send it in to the publisher for review and they give a rejection or acceptance based on their reading? Or do you have some sort of a dialogue with the publishing company at the time you send them the novel, explaining why you have faith in that submission to be valuable before they read it?



Daniel
 
I've known most of the genre editors in London and New York for over ten years - over twenty years, in some cases. We speak regularly about life, the universe and everything, and part of those conversations will include sounding them out about writers. Personal relationships are extremely important.

I may well target one or two publishers before a novel is complete and enthuse them, so they are very keen to receive it. I don't send every book to every SF editor - publishers don't all want the same thing, so it's a matter of being aware of a specific editor's interests and what their company publishes well. Having sat in an editor's chair for fifteen years, with three different companies, I'm aware of the necessities, not just for the editor, but also for their sales and marketing colleagues, who are ever more important when a company considers a new writer.

If you treat novels like cans of baked beans and just chuck them out on the market, you're not likely to get very far. Publishing is a subjective business, and getting a specific publisher to take on a specific writer can often be a long-term project. But occasionally - and I stress that - something happens like the World Rights deal I did with Simon Spanton at Gollancz in February, where I took on a terrific new US fantasy writer, Robert Redick, and felt his writing was particularly suited to Simon. We spoke, he read the book quickly and agreed and made an extremely good offer within a week of receiving the novel (which was also out with other publishers). I discussed the offer with the author, I spoke again to Simon and then accepted it with some changes, additions, etc. In January, Robert didn't have an agent, but by the end of February he had an extremely lucrative three-book publishing deal with one of the oldest and best SF and Fantasy imprints in the world.

That is unusual! But wonderful, when it does happen.
 
Er...not specifically, that I'm aware of!

Incidentally, it's not just a matter of a novel that I believe 'has a chance'. I have to love an author's work and completely believe that they have a major career in front of them. There are plenty of good novels around, and they get turned down every day by publishers who know that the bookselling trade is looking for new bestsellers, not mid-range novels. No UK publisher is looking to fill a list, in 2007. They are publishing specific authors, and thinking strategically about that author's work over a number of years and how it will be presented to the trade, rather than ticking off this month's 'dragon fantasy', 'military SF', 'funny fantasy', etc.

Things may be slightly different in the US, due to the size of the market, but that's the way it is in the UK.
 
There are plenty of good novels around, and they get turned down every day by publishers who know that the bookselling trade is looking for new bestsellers, not mid-range novels.

May I ask you, John, if you think this is a good thing or not? This 'death' of the mid range/list author/novel? Because that is what seems to be happening.
 
It's been 'happening' for twenty years, to be honest. As bookselling chains compete more with supermarkets and so forth, and following the end of the Net Book Agreement in the mid-90s that has led to ever more discounting, they only want to see books and authors who will sell very well. Whereas I reckoned that I had four books to work with an author in the late 80s, to build their sales, if a writer's first book doesn't work now, it's very difficult to resurrect sales, with computer sales figures being the basis on which future orders are predicated.

Thus, a UK genre publisher might take on one or two new writers over an entire year now, and put marketing resources behind them, to try as hard as possible to get that first book away - rather than taking on half-a-dozen, some of whom would work immediately, some of whom would build and some of whom would fail, as was the way of things in the 1980s.
 
Hi again, John.

I’d like to hear anything you’d care to share about Gemmell. I was saddened when he died, for I had hoped to keep reading him for another 20 years, and to meet him someday. What was he like? Were you friends, or simply professional associates?

Thanks,
Daniel
 
I'll come back to you in the next couple of days on this, Daniel. Dave and I had a lot of fun...
 
I mentioned that publishers look for ways to build interest in new writers. Here is a fascinating animation that HarperCollins UK have created for Stephen Hunt's COURT OF THE AIR, which they publish this month (he's one of my clients):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8ucLBDTthU

Nice one...

I've seen that one around, looked interesting. Very schmick trailer, certainly one of the better ones I've seen. Looks like it'd make a good animated film... Might have to pick up the book.
 
No, I published him when I ran the SF and Fantasy imprint at Random House in London in the early-mid 1990s. And we both lived in Hastings, so we saw each other quite often...
 
Hi again, John.

I’d like to hear anything you’d care to share about Gemmell. I was saddened when he died, for I had hoped to keep reading him for another 20 years, and to meet him someday. What was he like? Were you friends, or simply professional associates?

Thanks,
Daniel

I first met David at an Easter SF convention - must have been around 1990. At that time I was running the Orbit imprint - which is now part of Little Brown publishers - and David was published by Legend, the SF and Fantasy imprint at Random House UK. We chatted at the bar, as writers and publishers do, and got on well. In January 1992 I was headhunted to take over Legend, after the previous editor left, and became David's editor. Since we both lived in Hastings, it gave us the chance to meet socially on a regular basis, as well as talking business. David loved computer games and we both played on his Amstrad whilst having a drink. We shot down many enemy aircraft over the English Channel and killed more villains than you could shake a stick at in Castle Wolfenstein. He passed that Amstrad on to me when he bought his first PC!

David was a great fan of Westerns - films and novels. He loved the writing of Louis L'amour. Since I'm a film buff myself, we chatted long into the night about the best Western ever filmed (THE SEARCHERS with John Wayne, as any fule kno). He had Western rigs in his study, with Colt .45s - as well as a wonderful axe, as used by Druss the Legend, which a fan had created for him.

David took his writing very seriously and was also very good to new writers - many who have since been published would attest to that. He didn't suffer fools gladly. He felt, quite rightly, that if he was acting professionally, so should those with whom he worked.

He's greatly missed by many of us...those who knew him personally, and those who read his novels...
 
Thanks, John.
Sounds like a kindred spirit.

I have heard online that his wife is doing all the work to get his last 2 books release, true? If you still speak with her, please let her know how much Gemmell meant to us, and gave many of us the courage to write.

Daniel
 
I understand that the final Troy book is now with the publishers...I only met Stella once, but I'm sure she's receiving great support from David's readers.
 
Gemmell will definitely be missed. I've always felt that he was the Louis L'amour of fantasy (I love "To Tame a Land"), and that he possessed a subtle depth that many readers (and critics) missed. At his best, there was an Aesopian element to his stories and I own nearly every novel he's written (with the exception of the Troy series which I'll remedy shortly). I have a feeling that some of his works will make the transition to the screen--his style, concise and vivid, is perfect for it. I know I'd like to see the Jerusalem Man novels portrayed (with a little tweak to the ending of the first). The Sword in the Storm begs for cinematic treatment as well.
Above all, it seems as if he was a good man to many people. I hope that part of him lives on and I wish his wife well in her rather daunting task of finishing the final two Troy novels.
 
John, this might be something silly, but how about short stories and agents?

When I read the guidelines of some agents, I often notice : no short stories. It makes me think: 'if some don't, then others do'. Are they talking about short story anthologies or can one actually take an agent just for 'single' short stories?
 
Two levels to this. Firstly, in commerical terms, individual short stories don't make agents enough money. Secondly, in the UK, there is no way any mainstream publisher wants a short story collection from an author unless they have several novels in print that have sold very well. Collections sell around one-fifth of the copies that author's novels sell.

So, I am an agent of novelists; if they also want me to sell short fiction I am happy to do so. But I wouldn't take on an author who only writes short fiction. My basic reply to those who ask is: 'Come back when you've written a complete novel.'
 
Two levels to this. Firstly, in commerical terms, individual short stories don't make agents enough money. Secondly, in the UK, there is no way any mainstream publisher wants a short story collection from an author unless they have several novels in print that have sold very well. Collections sell around one-fifth of the copies that author's novels sell.

So, I am an agent of novelists; if they also want me to sell short fiction I am happy to do so. But I wouldn't take on an author who only writes short fiction. My basic reply to those who ask is: 'Come back when you've written a complete novel.'


Could you define what is 'short'? My current project is ~80K words... ?
 

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