5.21: Meridian

[padders]

Originally posted by skydiver
i don't know the science but...would leaded glass have prevented the radiation from seeping through?

or then again...it is alien radiation. i mean who would think that glass can hold sulphuric acid which will eat through pretty much anything else?

any nuclear experts around here? do nuclear power plants etc have special glass to make it radiation proof or resistant?

Lead does stop radiation to a degree but you would need a lot of it to stop whatever release they had in there to do what it did to Daniel. Not sure lead and transparent would likely be a possible combination either. If something is going to stop alpha,beta,gamma radiation, I imaginge it is going to stop light as well, as that is just another type of radiation.

 

[Hatshepsut]

I whole-heartedly second that! :flash:

And I want to see the Sam/Teal'c scene that was cut! Bet it was wonderful - any of the S.G.1 team (cast or production) that happen to be ear-wigging, please note. Also that I am seriously underwhelmed that it *was* cut...

Best wishes,
Hatshepsut :wave:
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[Calen2k]

Okay, I just got back from the SG-4 convention.
They had this Goodbye Daniel/Michael music video. It was great. It
really touched on the mood and the whole feeling of Daniel leaving.
It was to that Kate Winslet song, it had the right scenes in the
right places, going along with the music. It worked together really
well. I still think the episode was some what rushed, but I get why
they did it that way.

Just listening to Amanda and Michael talk, I really got the idea that
they were good friends off camera as well. They both got red-eyed when
the video was put on. *sigh* I'm going to miss Danny boy as well, but
hopefully they'll do him justice in the following episodes and not
just say it's done. End. Over. Bye bye.

And I also want to see the scene that was cut....although it sounded more Amanda/Chris than Sam/Teal'c.

 

[Hatshepsut]

I just got a *brilliant* idea for bringing Danny back, - metaphysical, but wa-ay away from all the gooey Schmaltz, and he certainly wouldn't fade away into the wall-paper

When I've finished writing 'A Town Like Alex?', maybe I'll write it as a fan-fic :evil:

Best wishes,
Hatshepsut :wave:

P.S. Yes, the adventure is already taking shape in my mind... :coolyello
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[Annette]

Hey there Calen2k.

Was at the convention too. Enjoyed seeing 'Meridian' as had missed the showing on the previous Wednesday. Have to admit I did shed a few tears.

Only thing 'wrong' with the episode I could see it felt rushed. An idea I feel TPTB could have done is spread it over 2 episodes.

Amanda did mention at the Con about her and Teal'cs scene being cut. She thought this unfair too. It would have been great to see their interaction.


annette

 

[skoon]

after all Super SG1 has servied through, I think they should have made Danny go less dramatically. Sonthing so sill & stupid like get shot & die instantly. Sorry, the whole radiation draw out thing was too romantic a way to die.

 

[2muchtvs]

Meridian chat



ok, just saw meridian and i haven't read the rest of these posts because i know some will hate it, a few will like it and most will feel like a 45 year old virgin after her wedding night,( Is this all there is because although the moment was special ....)

anyhow, i want to spill my thoughts before i get jaded by other peoples'

i was realllllllly dreading daniel leaving and i have been living in denial over it happening so i was proud of myself for watching it.

now,

way too rushed. could we not have splurged for at least a hour and a half. that makes a nice two parter in syndication.

i did not want a tear fest but geez, could janet at least have a scene for goodness sake.

the whole mummy mask thing - was that for an egyptian tie in - like daniel has come full circle - because if not, it was too distracting. reminded me of that got milk commercial. got radiation?

poor teal'c - chris judge can't even have a proper scene to wish goodbye to the guy whose wife he, well, we all know that whole story

but i did like jack - i thought his character was a good mix of "oh sh*t, i don't want this to happen but i am military and life goes on, yada yada yada

sam - great job of science first, then daniel, then tears - true to character

hammond - he did cave to save cassie, which i thought was a joke. glad they kept him a hard a** on this.

long story short, short story long - i am fine with the episode. people who say it was too mushy need to go back and blow off a few heads in their video games. some mush after 5 years is realistic and acceptable.

people who wanted a one hour tear fest need to write some fanfic,( that i will then read!), because stargate has always been about rushed emotions. i'm glad this episode wasn't different. i just wish it would have been longer. there were some good scenes that needed closure.

If quinn takes daniel's place, that's cool as long as he doesn't become little danny jr. i like corin nemic. better him than some swaggering beefcake or darling hottie. nemic is average looking.
you knew they were going to go with someone young.

and last if anyone is still reading --- a part of me wishes that they would have had the nerve to off daniel for good via gou'ald and have jack go on a killing spree BUT i honestly think that the seeds for this were planted several years ago and this actually makes sense. i'm fine with it. it is very "daniel". his character was starting to come to a military or idealism crossroad anyway, the timing for leaving was actually pretty good. i think daniel was ready to move on, somewhere, Oma just offered him a viable alternative akin to staying on abados(sp?). i don't think he choose death, just a new life.

but i am still going to miss him


whew - i feel better

 

[Hatshepsut]

From what I've heard about all the tears for real shed by the cast during filming, I think Michael Shanks would return like a shot if he was offered a few decent scripts that weren't all fire-fights where he was sent to cower behind a rock or something.

'Need' was on Sky last night - love that episode...

"Well! It's surprisingly difficult to kill you, isn't it?"

Trouble is, it wasn't hard *enough*... :crying:

Best wishes,
Hatshepsut :wave:
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[Texane]

well done. Nice job (again) by PdL as director.

I wonder who cast Oma? Interesting choice; a little strange.

[I think "Need" is an incredibly powerful episode - some great acting scenes there.]

 

[Krystal]

Well, I have mix feelings with this episode. Why because I know it was Daniel's last before see it. If I wouldn't know my feelings will be totally different I'm sure. Anyway as an episode, it was good. I really like it although as I say before the reality of what it means spoiled the episode for me. I truly like the story about Daniel's searching for the next step, and was really impress when he choose Jack to be the one he communicate his desire to let him go. Also like the different moments of every SG1 member to tell Daniel how they feel. It was a good episode.

Krystal

 

[Hatshepsut]

You know you've been watching 'Meridian' when...

*There's a sudden world shortage of tissues...

*Every third sentence starts with "I remember when Daniel..."

*The USA declares a state of emergency as supplies of ice cream and chocolate hit an all time low...

*Those little grey aliens refuse to help SG-1 because "The cute one's not here"...

*Hathor and Apophis both get together and sing "I Will Always Love You" as a tribute...

*Jack starts getting killed much more often...

*And General Hammond shuts down the SGC, claiming "It's no fun any more.  That archaeologist guy was the lynchpin that held you all together..."

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Forwarded courtesy of DaletheTimeLord from MICHAELSHANKSFANS@yahoogroups.com

Best wishes,
Hatshepsut :wave:
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[Annette]

Heehee!!!!!!! Thats funny Hapshepsut.


annette

 

[summershake]

And soooo true...well, the first one anyway...LOL

 

[Texane]

I do not sing.

Hathor (defrosted)

 

[angelle myst]

Hey all, i just watched Meridian for the first time tonight. And i was left feeling kinda empty. I felt like every other character was detached from the plot and from Daniel. Its kinda hard to explain but, i felt that it was greatly lacking in scenes where the main characters interacted to actually talk about Daniels "ascension". The writers made it as emotionless as possible - i'm a very teary person, but it didnt take much for me to not cry. It was sad about Daniels death, but it was sad that a lot of the characters were written so it was like they didnt seem to give a damn that he died (like Janet or the General for example) and wouldnt Cassie have wanted to say goodbye? Just a few thoughts.

xxx:aliengray

 

[Anni]

Sammy, I have to agree with you. In spite of all of the cries of 'Oh it was so emotional, I cried buckets' and actually watching people weep at SG4, I still think that the episode was sanitary. That's not to say that the goodbyes from Sam and Teal'c weren't well done, but if felt sort of isolated somehow. Disconnected from the rest of the series.

I suppose that the nature of what they were trying to show would have made this somewhat disconnected. But even if they'd had a few scenes say where Janet tells Cassie and she gets upset..... Oh I dunno. There was something definitely lacking in the whole episode.

It felt like it didn't belong to the show at all.

I guess many will disagree with us....but that's to be expected.

 

[Hatshepsut]

Michael Shanks himself described it as a speed bump on the way to the edge of the cliff.

I think he meant the cliff-hanger ending. Which was where, exactly?

Much better to have had a two-parter. Daniel - in a proper off-world story, maybe with another S.G. team, in a parallel universe or whatever - could simply disappear and be declared M.I.A. or K.I.A., but with no body found...

That would have been 'clinically clean' with minimum angst and would probably not have generated nearly so much antipathy.

If all parties agreed later to Shanks returning, there would plenty of scope for an interesting search for him.

To be fair to Robert C. Cooper, who is possibly the best writer they have, he did have a pretty difficult brief:

1. kill off arguably the most popular character (and, as 'founding father', the sine qua non) of the programme,

2. do it so that he can be brought back if it turns out that we really have screwed up in driving him away,

3. introduce his replacement,

N.B. It doesn't matter if this is a bit crass. The new guy we've picked is a 'pretty boy' specially chosen to keep the females happy while we head for D.C. comics territory in series 6 to reel in the fickle adolescent male demographic. (The females are far too dim and hormone-fired to notice the swap anyway.)

4. and you've only got a single episode to do it in.

Ho hum...

Best wishes,
Hatshepsut :wave:
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[Jobeth]

I'm with Anni and Sammy on this one. They could have cut the Jonas scenes in favor of some goodbye scenes from Hammond, et. al.

I really wasn't interested in hearing TNG yammering about his career goals while Daniel was lying in the infirmary. I kept thinking 'shut the **** up, get back to Daniel'.

I couldn't help but compare this to Henry Blake's final episode on M*A*S*H*. That was very well done and moving. Also, TPTB didn't bring his replacement (Col. Potter) on board until the next season. (Imagine of Potter had shown up in that last episode, had a hand in getting Blake transfered, and taken over all in the same show. I really don't think it would have gone down too well with the fans.)

 

[Shadrak]

Oh, hell yes they could've gone a few different routes - but true enough - there may not have been much lead time up to writing and filming the ep. And if they'd had a ending like when Henry Blake died - aw, that was soooo sad - and I haven't seen it since I was 9 and I still remember that scene.

These people were never going to be awash with tears though - as it was it was only AT and MS that showed any real emotion - I actually thought Jack was a piece of cardboard with RDA's face pasted onto it. AT mentioned that there was an emotional scene caught between herself and Teal'c but obviously it wasn't used...Why?

It's quite possible that the bitter feelings felt at the time of MS's departure coloured the emotional content of that ep - but essentially for me, it was a lost opportunity to have everyone giving their acting 'all' and allowing MS a better send off.



Shadrak

 

[Jobeth]

Shadrak wrote:

These people were never going to be awash with tears though - as it was it was only AT and MS that showed any real emotion - I actually thought Jack was a piece of cardboard with RDA's face pasted onto it.

LOL

Also:

AT mentioned that there was an emotional scene caught between herself and Teal'c but obviously it wasn't used...Why?

Probably to allow more vital 'Jonas time'. After all, we wouldn't have wanted to cut his important 'boasting about his reading abilities' moment or his 'I'm bored with my job complaints' just to show a touching moment between two of Daniel's team members.