The Revived Tolkien Trivia

[Boaz]

The seven of one waited for the first. Two others would come after the first, but before the second, who were not the seven of one.

Have I killed the thread? Have I quenched your interest?

So... there's going to be a first and a second. And yet seven of one is forced to wait for the first. Then along with the seven of one, two more are to come along. And finally the second will arrive. But somehow the first and second are still called the first and second... even though they're really the second and the fifth respectively.

 

[Boaz]

When I post trivia, I always think I'm saying, "I see dead people" to a ghost. It seems easy to me... but then again that's why it occurred to me...

 

[Narkalui]

So is it the Seven Fathers of the dwarves being forced to sleep until after Elves and Men had awoken?

 

[Boaz]

@Nakalui Yes....

Aule made the seven fathers of the dwarves, but Eru made the dwarves wait for the elves... then Yavanna got angry and talked to Manwe who dreamed about Ents and Eagles in Eru's deeper meanings of the Song. All four appeared before Men.

 

[Narkalui]

Ok, I'll look for another question this evening after work

 

[Grimward]

Good one Bo, and even better call, Narkalui; I was absolutely lost.

 

[Boaz]

Grimmy, I am continually amazed by what each of us remembers from books. The words that inspire your thoughts may not even register with me. And for me, I take notice every time Eru speaks... and I think that is the last time in The Silmarillion. That one five-page chapter is so filled with information... Dwarves, Aule, Yavanna, Eru, Manwe, Eagles, Ents, and Men.

By the way, I currently have four copies of The Silmarillion and last night I dreamed I found two more in a box.

 

[Narkalui]

Okay, I have thought of something:

Three there were that burned bright as blue flame. One for a king and then a wizard, the second later on for a king and the third for someone no one expected

I suspect this might be quite easy, no reference, citation or quotation necessary, just the correct answer

 

[Grimward]

By the way, I currently have four copies of The Silmarillion and last night I dreamed I found two more in a box.

I have but 2; a hardback from the original US release which stays on the shelf, and a paperback that sits on my desk doing yeoman's duty where this thread is concerned. I think my wife would have words with me if I bought any more copies than that!

Re the challenge Narkalui, Elven blades?

Glamdring, first wielded by the King of Gondolin (presumably Turgon, although the reference in The Hobbit does not name him), and then by Gandalf.
Orcrist, wielded by Thorin Oakenshield after the dwarves, hobbit and wizard recovered it from the Trolls, and
Sting, wielded Bilbo, then Frodo, then Sam briefly.

And if I'm right I yield to Pyan, because I in a moment of brain death originally called them "Numenor" blades. I edited it to correct, but my edit apparently was after Py's post!

 

[Pyan]

Okay, I have thought of something:

Three there were that burned bright as blue flame. One for a king and then a wizard, the second later on for a king and the third for someone no one expected

I suspect this might be quite easy, no reference, citation or quotation necessary, just the correct answer

Swords? - I'm thinking Glamdring (Turgon and Gandalf), Orcrist (Thorin II Oakenshield) and Sting (Bilbo Baggins)

 

[Narkalui]

Very well Grim, Pyan has it: over to you Ser

 

[farntfar]

Well done, Py and Grim.
Itr was Turgon thathad me foxed.

 

[Pyan]

Well, if Grim's ok with this. Sheer bad luck that his post was down for editing when I posted, though...

Try this:

If most used clay or wood and one or two used bronze, who used silver? A place name as well. please, but no need for a quote.

 

[Boaz]

I'm pretty sure you are talking of pipes, I found references to Bilbo using a wooden pipe and Gandalf using a clay pipe, but not yet found reference to a silver one.

 

[Pyan]

To save you getting stuck down this road, it's nothing to do with pipes...

 

[Grimward]

Unbelievable.

There was even that final nugget of silver at the end of the Many Partings chapter that would have filled in Bo's missing piece.

Back to the drawing board.

 

[Boaz]

Rings? Surely py would've mentioned gold.

Staves?

Brooches?

 

[Pyan]

The answer is a specific person and a specific place....

 

[Boaz]

Bowls/basins. Galadriel. Galadriel's mirror. Caras Galadhon.

 

[Pyan]

Alas, no. Literally leagues away, in fact.