Collaborative Writing Project Re-start

i think we can do both: post bits here pour encourager les autres, and PM/email larger chunks to each other to maintain continuity. just as with Chris, I'll happily change names of characters etc to suit those that get set in stone - Z, i've stayed clear of your engineer for that reason. i will put my hand up for an ex-SAS security-type called Dan Mayfield and the ship's historian Erik Cerner (Swiss - for a story-based reason), but i've not really done any physical descriptions as yet.

here's my excerpt anyway, from a tale which sees Our Heroes in a sheaf where the Inquisition was never curbed and the inhabitants are extremely reluctant to share any information at all with the Heinlein..... (please note, as I've said, all names - except Mayfield and Cerner, i think, but including the ship itself) are open to change).

apologies for the length - but i've tried to clip it so that it makes sense.....
Beside him Hardcastle came to attention and snapped off a perfect salute. “Sirs, I greet you in peace on behalf of Great Britain, the European Union, the United Nations, and the free peoples of our Earth. I am Captain Edward Hardcastle, commanding the Heinlein, and I would like to introduce you to my colleagues - ”

The man who wore the red waistband waved his hand to cut him off. “Quite enough,” he said in accented but perfect English. “You appear in our skies without warning or explanation, with such a device - unknown to rational thought - certain to terrify our good citizens in these times of uncertainty and struggle. You claim to bring peace from countries I know have never existed. Why should I believe anything you say?”

Hardcastle paused mid-breath, visibly rattled, and glanced back at his Contact Specialists. “Ah…”

Le Roux slid smoothly between Mayfield and Hardcastle, an easy, unfazed smile on his cherubic face. One hand held the Contact Case; the other was stretched out, palm up, to show that he meant no harm. “Monsieur, please, let me apologise,” he said. “We have not meant to startle you at all, but unfortunately we have found it somewhat hard to lessen the impact of our arrivals - we just can’t make the ship any smaller right now.”

He bowed his head formally. “Might I have the honour of your name, monsieur?”

The older man scowled, his face set into hard lines and angles. For a moment Mayfield thought things would start to get ugly, but then the priest sniffed and gave a jerky nod. “I am Joseph Marilley, Bishop of Lausanne and Geneva by the grace of God. This is Monsignor Guillard, Calificador and Fiscal of this diocese; these others are his assistants.”

A surprised grunt in Mayfield’s ear from Cerner: “Calificador? What?”

Le Roux carried on as though he had heard nothing. “A pleasure to meet you all, sirs. Normally we would already have been in contact by radio or by video, but it does seem that we have hit some technical difficulties on this trip. As it is clear that our presence has unsettled you, I’ve already suggested to my Captain here that rather than overloading you with information it may be much more beneficial for all of us if we allow you to go through our project overview at your leisure.”

As Marilley and Guillard looked up at him with suspicion, Le Roux opened the Contact Case and turned it towards them so that they could see the contents. A ring-binder stamped with the Heinlein’s crest and the EU flag, with the proposals outlined in full; a small wallet of DVD-Rs that held hours of visual data; and a fully charged notebook PC preloaded with a selection of library data from the Heinlein’s trips. Enough to whet any appetite, Mayfield thought.

Clearly the Bishop thought differently. He gestured to Guillard, who reached in to take the ring-binder and flick through it for a moment, his hawk-like face betraying no emotion at all.

“I have news,” Cerner announced. “I believe you have just met the Inquisition.”

Mayfield struggled to keep a straight face. It was one of the most absurd statements he had ever heard. A furtive glance around at the rest of the team told him that they too were having problems with Cerner’s conclusions.

“This is for us?” Guillard asked. His voice was a lot softer than his demeanour suggested. When Le Roux nodded affirmative, the Calificador closed the case with care, lifted it from his hands, and passed it to one of the junior priests behind him. “Prenez-le au tribunal. Dites aux Enquêteurs que je les rejoindrai bientôt.

The man hurried off with the Contact Case and Guillard turned back to them with a satisfied smile. “Thank you for your gift, Monsieur. I would advise you to return to your vessel now. We will signal for you should we wish to resume this conversation. One thing more, Captain: to avoid alarming our citizens any further than you already have done, please refrain from leaving your vessel until we signal for you. I trust that you and your crew will understand this necessity?”

Hardcastle nodded slowly. “Of course,” he said. “we are but visitors, after all. And the views from up there are stunning,” he added, with a poor attempt at humour.

Guillard exchanged an opaque look with his Bishop. “Yes,” he said at last. “They are.”
Without even a farewell, the priests turned and retreated quickly toward the terminal.

Hardcastle waited until they were out of earshot before he said anything. “Well, that was unexpected.”

Mayfield grunted nervously, but his mouth twitched in a barely suppressed smile. The captain glared at him.

“If you even start to say what I think you’re going to say, I’ll have you on chemicals duty for the next two weeks.”

Mayfield contrived to look innocent, a pained puppy-dog expression that didn’t suit his sharp, angular face at all. He was spared having to reply by an interjection over the coded frequency that fed into their headsets.
“Unexpected, yes,” Erik Cerner said, “but well within the bounds of probability. Historically speaking, and I know Kate agrees with me, this timeline appears to be logically sequential to our last stop. In fact, this is a perfect illustration of just how significant a single branching event can be.”

The Heinlein’s theoretical historian sounded more excited and energised than he had done in a while, Mayfield thought. Of course, Cerner counted Renaissance and late-mediaeval history amongst his passions - the elements of the field that he enjoyed outside his day job. He must be bouncing up and down in his seat right now, Mayfield decided with a smile.

He glanced over his shoulder: the welcoming party had already disappeared into the grandly-pillared buildings of the terminal. Black-garbed soldiers still lined the edges of the field; he had no doubt they were being closely watched with every step they took. Mayfield wasn’t so worried about these soldiers - at least he could see them, he thought. At that distance, and in such numbers, they had to be more for show and for containment than for anything else. What bothered him more were the closed hangars at the edge of the landing strip. The authorities had gone to great lengths to prevent the Heinlein’s contact party from seeing any kind of flight-capable technology.

“Pope Sixtus IV is generally considered - in our timeline anyway - to have held some of the worst excesses of the Spanish Inquisition in check. At the same time he was himself held back by Louis XI, who held a royal veto over any decrees that the papacy wanted to promulgate in France. Now, at our last stop the library data we retrieved indicated that Louis XI did not uphold that veto. The Sanction of Bourges was never put in place. Given this timeline’s proximity to that one, I would postulate that the same has happened here.”

Cerner paused to take a breath and Rhosyn Murphy, the other Contact Specialist in the small party, took the opportunity to break in.

“And the Inquisition? I thought that was a strictly mediaeval phenomenon.”

“And you’d be wrong,” Cerner corrected her. “The Inquisition was active in various guises until the early nineteenth century. What if, in this timeline, Sixtus encouraged the Inquisition rather than attempted to hold it back, and was also able to force Louis XI to introduce the same thing in France?”

Mayfield checked the field again, turning in a complete circle, letting the others theorise while he kept them safe. The more he heard from Cerner, the less he liked this set-up. It would have helped enormously - not to mention soothing his paranoia - had they been able to see any kind of historical data before they initiated the contact meeting, but this world didn’t appear to have any kind of open information network. Right now, after a tense few minutes spent introducing themselves to a small quorum of stiff-necked men who turned out to be senior members of the Inquisition, he wanted nothing more than to be back aboard the Heinlein, a good mile above the ground.
 
Hi guys,

Ok, so that you can send me any wiritngs, and all of them if they are long here is my personal e-mail address, forgive the silly look of it, but it is : halamalagarli@yahoo.co.uk

ok, so if anyone has written stuff they want kept, edited (not really) or included the canon (i don't know the right word) of the shared universe. I wont edit anything I'll just read through, let you know what I think and (hopefully) pick up on any inconsistancies between writers.

I have tried several times this week to write a long reply to this thread answering all the questions you have, and posing plenty more, but everytime I start it drags on and on and eventually I have to give up as my post is not complete enough.

I will try this week to get a full premise/synopsis/first draft of what we have so far together for everyone to read.

I am loving all that I read, by all of you and can't wait for next chapters/story arcs.

Take care all

M
 
1st Summary

Please excuse me if I miss points or get anything wrong, but let me know.

Ship The Heinlein

Longer than a football stadium, silver as a blob of mercury against the sky, it isn't made for doing things fast. To rise, waste heat from the fusion generator is fed into the thousands of individual gasbags, causing them to swell, not a rapid manoeuvre. Turning is in wide, majestic curves, and she has the acceleration of an ocean liner (with a higher top speed). Even when the nacelle is fully extended out of the bottom, half of what you can see is reflections in the giant curved mirror overhead. In transit the gasbag is a huge unbroken ellipsoid. The propulsion engines, the tethering points, the nacelle, even the four-man ultra-lightweight scouting plane, are all withdrawn within the skin.


Charcters

Captain Slak Jowelssen or Edward Hardcastle
1st Mate Steven Friend
Engineer Halbert Langenbright (see desc)
Tania Hakkonen
FC Negotiator Le Roux
Security Mayfield
Historians Erik Cerner & Rhosyn Murphy


Ancient Mathematicians/Engineers Harnochlamerion & Chrosponarivilkion

Even that doesn't cover our proposed required crew, we still need 2 more security people, 2 mathematicians in respect to Harn and Chrosp.
1 small craft pilot (was that mentioned)
1 commo/electronics expert
2 "First contact" negotiators (could be our historian's double up as ambassadors)


And there we have it, I currently hold 4 stories from you guys, plus a chracter description of Halbert. the 4 stories are 1 ancient tale of the two mathematicians/engineers. 1 story of the ship arriving above Slovakia. 1 story of the first jump made by the ship (only to the landing) and 1 story of the ship arriving in a new world where the inquisistion was encouraged.

ok, now I gave the captain both names, but here's my story of Slak.

Slak Jowelssen was not your normal Dane, sure he was six foot four and very athletic, ok he did have long blonde hair and a beard that Zeus would have been proud of, so he spoke English in a softly broken Scandanavian accent but still, he wasn't your normal Dane; Slak was a nerd, in fact Slak was king of the nerds. It's not often that a chess playing, maths loving, poetry reciting cosmologist is also a champion cross country skiing, snowboarding, guitar playing, girl wooing viking re-enactor. But that was Slak. He was always top of his class, he was always top of everything, he hated losing, once when he was thirteen his best friend Ern had beaten him in a cross country ski, Slak set the local wild-dogs onto him, Ern still lives with the scar. From the age of 18-21 he won the Scandanavian Historical Viking Axe Battle without breaking a sweat, in recent years he has had to fight but still retains his crown (quite literally a bronze crown), he is loved all across Denmark for his many victories under the blue flag. Slak considers himself a Dane first, a European second, and a Human third. He has no ties to politics or industry, his main interest is science, life, the furtherment of mankind; and if he can do his bit swinging around a fourteen pound axe on a cold Sunday afternoon dressed in clothes from the twelfth century, he is more than happy too. Slak doesn't always make the best descisions, but he does make decisions and fast, and when he does you'd better follow them. For Slak there is nothing worse than disloyalty, except maybe beating him or being right when he is wrong. Slak is a large man, but he doens't use his size to get his own way, he uses his voice, he shouts and spits and sometimes even drools when he is angry, and you don't want to get a face full of Slak spit as the literal shower will be nothing compared to the verbal abuse you will suffer.
Slak is a proud captain, he loves his crew and treats each one differently, adjusting his tone and body language to suit whomever he is addressing, but when the red ligths are flashing Slak treats them all the same and they all respond to his command without question. When Slak was given command of the Heinlien he couldn't believe it, he a Dane would be leading all peoples of the earth into a new era, he felt proud to be a Dane on that day, and Denmark felt proud that Slak was one of them. Slak has a competant grasp of the maths and science involved, he isn't a specialist but he can handle the math-babble that his engineers and crew spout. Slak has issues with Mayfield, the security leader, Slak is a big man, bigger in fact than Mayfield, on the first day on ship Slak challenged all his crew to arm-wrestles; there was a lot of testosterone flying around and Slak felt he had to prove himself the alpha male, unfortunately Mayfield beat him and Slak hasn't trusted him since. If Mayfield had known Slak would be so petty about it he would have lost, but he thought he needed to show that, as security leader, he had to be the toughest. Still Slak regained plenty of pride when Mayfield struggled in the game of Numabble (a kind of mathematical scrabble) and when he got to sit in the captains chair, look into the forward viewer and say 'Lo, let's us find Valhalla'


ok, ok, so it's not great, but i think I like him, sorry I made him a bit too viking(y.) Let me know what you think, and please anything you can add to the summary woul dbe appraciated.

Take care, and keep writing

M
 
it's gonna be a small ship with several big men around :D

the captain sounds good, M. i like the idea of the Great Dane. where did you get the name from though?

are Harnochlamerion & Chrosponarivilkion still part of the crew at this point? i was under the impression that Chris had written them to provide background, but if they are still aboard then i can rid myself of the 2 human mathematicians (who i called.....um.....Penny and Kate...... :) )

i'll email you the whole shebang so far at some point over the next couple of days, but i'm on Crazy Shifts at the moment....
 
Hi Chopper,

I made the name up, a bit of a take on Slack jawed yokel from Simpsons, but I liked Slak as a name and the surname just sounds a bit Danish (or Swedish/Norweigan/Finnish).

Nopem, Harn and Chrosp are not part of the crew, they are the two fondly remembered founding mathematicians. We do still need current Mathematicians.

Looking forward to reading what you've done

Take care

M
 
I think if I'm understanding things correctly this should work better in terms of personnel on board. If as I understood correctly- Harnochlamerion & Chrosponarivilkion were historical figures that came up with most of the original "super math" that makes the Heinlein possible. The reason being that as Chopper pointed out, we would have a lot of Dudes around and not many "Dudettes". The names Chopper came up with for the mathematicians that are supposed to be current crew members sounded female (Penny and Kate). That should round out the gender situation a bit. As long as it isn't "Miss Pennymoney", we're good. :) I will be happy to take on the "commo/electronics expert", as that is one of my fields of knowledge, but I have two questions about that. 1) I have to admit I'm not 100% sure what you mean by "commo" - I assumed you meant communications expert or am I way off? 2) do we want both the electornics expert and the guy I came up with (Hal) or are they one in the same? I will work on some character building for the two of them (it won't be a problem if I end up fusing them together into one person), and try to come up with some actual prose by the week's end (Sunday Nov. 2).

One more question for Chrispy - In your post on page one from October 13th that ends with "We are flying over a new Earth." You tell part of the story in first person about someone who is bunking with Tania Hakkonen, but I never caught the fellow's name. Did you mention it, and I missed it? I also didn't really get an idea of his function, position in the crew, etc. Could you fill me in on him? Thanks.

- Z.

BTW - Good job on the alternate history bit with the Crusades having actually become the European super power. I have a few questions for you about that but I will PM you on them and copy Moonbat.
 
i think Hal should be separate to the communications expert (more work, maybe, but Hal would probably have his hands full with keeping the Heinlein in the sky?)- the way i see the commo job role is to interface with the local networks to download and upload information as well as sending the "new arrival" greeting to the new sheave. the commom role would also be to keep the ship in contact with any work parties on the world's surface.

Penny and Kate are placeholder names - seriously, has nobody got the reference there yet? :D
BTW - Good job on the alternate history bit with the Crusades having actually become the European super power. I have a few questions for you about that but I will PM you on them and copy Moonbat.
it's the Inquisition rather than the Crusades, but you've put your finger on the new Cold War, so to speak....
 
Hey,

Yeah commo probably meant comms, so someone that deals with communication on ship, and communication from the ship to the surface/world.
I agree with Chopper, Hal (your engineer) should be different from the comms person. But along with an engineer to keep the bird in flight, we would also need a computer techie to keep all the on-board computers running, more of an electrical/comupter engineer than classical structural/mechanical engineer.

of course we all got the PennyKate reference, very good, and does help balance the sexes, but they will need european surnames that come from countries not yet represented.

I began wiritng a jump yesterday, and as soon as I started I gave more chracteristics to my crew, our crew! (sorry).
As my story was an early jump with little divergence from the OTL, the only difference they have spotted so far is that Michael Jackson is still black, and becuase of this I wrote that Tania is black (not really important) also I created another security gaurd; a black man called Luso. Not much happens in this jump, they will just re-charge before Captain Slak gets bored and moves them on. It's only a couple of pages at the moment, but I will stretch it to 10 pages if I can by the end of the weekend.

I have recieved two stories from Chrisp, and also a story from Chopper (I think it was Chopper) about the inquisition being encouraged. currently there are alot of differences between our crew, but if we all write something, I'll go through them and work out the inconsistancies then I'll put up a post where we can vote on what to keep, what to almalgamate and what to throw away.

For now,

Stay cool, keep writing

Moonbat
 
Hey,


I began wiritng a jump yesterday, and as soon as I started I gave more chracteristics to my crew, our crew! (sorry).
As my story was an early jump with little divergence from the OTL, the only difference they have spotted so far is that Michael Jackson is still black,


it's the little things.....:D
 
As promised, here's Daniel "Danny/Dan" Mayfield, security chief.

Born: 1970, Handsworth, South Yorkshire, in a traditional mining/steelworking family. Like most teenagers, he was drawn to the realms of fantasy and SF through D&D - a needful escape from real life in the troubled early Thatcherite years. The miners' strike crippled the area, and the future looked bleak, so he did - again - what many lads did: he joined the army and got away.

He worked his way into the Paras, winding up in 3rd Battaliaon during the 2003 invasion of Iraq, stationed in Basra. He left after that tour of duty and, with several ex-colleagues, formed a private security company that provided security for British workers abroad as well as for feature films shoots. his company tendered for the contract to provide security for the sheave-ships. Mayfield would have cut off both his legs to be certain of his place aboard the Heinlein, always driven to get that bit further away from home.

given his background he is used to working with very little. Practical, and good lateral thinker, with a very dry sense of humour. He can't stand people who won't give a straight answer. He finds Slak's opacity a bit much and can't quite get on his wavelength. Maths is totally beyond him except when calculating odds and winnings. He is 5'9", stocky, with near-permanent stubble and unruly curly short black hair.

erik cerner coming soon...
 
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and Erik Cerner, our tame historian...

Born: Lausanne, 1957. Erik was a model student at school, his role models being his parents, who lectured in history and physics. Erik could have gone with either discipline - he even went so far as to correspond frequently with Hugh Everett, one of the principal proponents of the "many-worlds" theory, until the latter's death, but his love of mediaeval history and good storytelling swung it.

he merged his two early passions by becoming Europe's foremost counterfactual historian before the field itself was widely recognised. his work placed him on the team brought in to analyse the data brought by the first VV (Visiting Vessel), and after that he was a dead cert for the crew of the Heinlein.

Erik is often lost inside his own head. Discipline and correct procedure are foreign languages to him. he has never found personal relationships to be rewarding, hence he still lives alone in the large house he inherited from his parents. Real people can be challenging subjects unless they share his geekery. Physically, he is tall, bespectacled and angular - a bag of elbows, one magazine interview called him. he looks more Scandinavian than Swiss.
 
well done chopper, love em.

I'm want to talk about procedure on board, someone wrote the jump is like being turned inside out twice, I like that, but then what happens, what are the first steps, also what is the chain of command, who reports to who. I wrote in an introduction that our ship broadcasts/transmits when it arrives, or when someone talks to them. I used introduction 5; a tame honest peaceful intro, but I assume there would be a range of introductions used for different sitations. Anybody care to suggest a few?

I read Chris's stories and am feeling a little out of my depth, historically speaking. Can we take - for an exercise - JFK's death, and saying it never happened, map out human history to the present day, suggesting changes, politcal or social, let's not suggest too many technological advancements, unless you see an obvious opening in a market that wasn't followed. I just want to get an idea of how we diverge our histories and still stay within each other's bounds/realms.

I feel we almost need a team outselves, a history expert, a technology expert, a master writer, a leader, a philosophy expert. We are the team! Life imitate arts eh?
 
Um - do I get "technology expert"? I don't think I'm eligible for any of the others. And there aren't enough of us (unless you're going recruiting) to fill all the posts; which calls for multiple hats.

Here's another call for opinions. This is a workshop project, i.e.. we're using it to improve our writing skills. Is that it? If so, we can post great lumps without worrying about the ultimate effects of this, which is what I've been cheerfully doing up to now. If, on the other hand, we're planning on going any further with it, the stories should only be distributed among contributors. Either way I'm having fun.

Yes, the Dallas assassination could well be a node point, and the nearly sixty years since it happened would make it a comfortable double transfer (distance isn't entirely proportional to time since split, but closely related) but you can't see anything except the final results of all the changes. In that it differs from standard alternate history where you live all the differences; here, if there's an American moon base, and the cold war's still running with both sides having nuclear armed space stations you have to get into the library to try and find out where history changed; and your shareholders are only interested in information that can make them money, or weapons; usually technology or art. The historian(s) is critical for placing you, but considered completely supernumerary by the sponsors.
 
well done chopper, love em.

I'm want to talk about procedure on board, someone wrote the jump is like being turned inside out twice, I like that, but then what happens, what are the first steps, also what is the chain of command, who reports to who. I wrote in an introduction that our ship broadcasts/transmits when it arrives, or when someone talks to them. I used introduction 5; a tame honest peaceful intro, but I assume there would be a range of introductions used for different sitations. Anybody care to suggest a few?
Not quite my field, but as far as a chain of command goes, the ship has to have a ranked structure for safety's sake - hence the Captain, First officer, Chief Engineer/Systems Chief etc. Quite like Star Trek, naturally. The academic side of the crew should not be a part of the command hierarchy. There's a bit of tension involved, i would think - the mission goals are the responsibility of the academics, while the safety of the ship and crew as a whole is down to the Captain and his/her team. Plenty of scope for conflict there.
I read Chris's stories and am feeling a little out of my depth, historically speaking. Can we take - for an exercise - JFK's death, and saying it never happened, map out human history to the present day, suggesting changes, politcal or social, let's not suggest too many technological advancements, unless you see an obvious opening in a market that wasn't followed. I just want to get an idea of how we diverge our histories and still stay within each other's bounds/realms.
you shouldn't have to feel out of your depth - just write what you want to take from/give to the project. whether it's an encounter situation, or descriptions of variant worlds, or interpersonal dynamics....i went straight for the alternate history scenario because it's something i've never actually tried before, and the more i thought about it the more i thought i could have a good blast at it.
I feel we almost need a team outselves, a history expert, a technology expert, a master writer, a leader, a philosophy expert. We are the team! Life imitate arts eh?
i'm no expert, don't get me wrong. i studied history, but i Wiki like hell for research......:D

Um - do I get "technology expert"? I don't think I'm eligible for any of the others. And there aren't enough of us (unless you're going recruiting) to fill all the posts; which calls for multiple hats.

Here's another call for opinions. This is a workshop project, i.e.. we're using it to improve our writing skills. Is that it? If so, we can post great lumps without worrying about the ultimate effects of this, which is what I've been cheerfully doing up to now. If, on the other hand, we're planning on going any further with it, the stories should only be distributed among contributors. Either way I'm having fun.
likewise, chris. almost too much - it's stopped my progress on other stuff! :)
more seriously: yes, it should probably remain a workshop project for the time being, because i wouldn't want to place anybody under any pressure. i think we should keep posting small background details to perhaps encourage others to join in (anybody? Bueller? - i know HJ is interested so far), but perhaps keep the acual writing to ourselves. you never know, the time may come when we realise there's an anthology growing down there in the laboratory....but that's a group & editorial decision. as i say, workshop for now - it's working so far!
Yes, the Dallas assassination could well be a node point, and the nearly sixty years since it happened would make it a comfortable double transfer (distance isn't entirely proportional to time since split, but closely related) but you can't see anything except the final results of all the changes. In that it differs from standard alternate history where you live all the differences; here, if there's an American moon base, and the cold war's still running with both sides having nuclear armed space stations you have to get into the library to try and find out where history changed; and your shareholders are only interested in information that can make them money, or weapons; usually technology or art. The historian(s) is critical for placing you, but considered completely supernumerary by the sponsors.
and i haven't really considered the more mercenary aspects of the missions so far - perhaps something for someone else to muse upopn?
 
I meant more along the line of

JFK isn't assasinated, so either the Russian's keep trying and succeed or get caught and it intensifies the cold war, Or the CIA keep trying and suceed or get caught and it changes the face of American politics forever.
If we try to imagine that American foreign policy has been changed since the 60's, then what differences do we get, has America already fallen to the wayside as a world power, has the middle east increased it's standard fo living, and the lives of the people there, If Islam has no war against oppressors to fight, then do they fight each other still?
The more detailed I get in the history the closer I need to look at more specific points in history. Ah, it's like a vicious circle!
 
thinking smaller may help, or confining your study to one geographical area (sez he who played god with the inquisition...) but seriously, i've altered the Inquisition's influence, but i haven't considered what that might do to, say, Africa or South America as a consequence, because i've only needed to justify one or two particular points. it's very easy to get sucked into the analysis though, i admit that.
 
yeah, I just want the details to be accurate, or believable.
I suppose I should just kee it simple, but simplicity without complexity isn't my thing.
As someone that studied history (what level are we talking here, A level, Degree, or you read an old newspaper once?) what are the 10 most defining social/political moments of the past 50 years? Just to keep it simple! :)

I keep having all these ideas for sheafs, a world where girls as young as 10 are married off, a world where governments and all decisions are run by a govertron (govenor Ron?) machine, but I'm still struggling to write in our team and the procedures/scenes they woudl witness upon arrival.

As for your inquisition story, yeah you changed everything but like you said you haven't fully suggested what happened to the rest of the world, this kind of historical mapping is tricky and complicated, maybe we can come up with some simple rules to follow that will allow us to suppose simple/cosmic divergences and then map out some history to go with it.

I'm gonna have a go later, it's like we need an expert program that can re-write history to suit our divergences. hmmm, programmers anyone?
 
degree level, but i'll be truthful and say that at the time i wasn't a great student. i've rediscovered my love for history only in the last few years, and most of my reading has been either ancient greek/roman or tudor/shakespearean.

defining moments? i can't give you ten, but to start things off:

the Fall of the Berlin Wall
the end of Thatcher
The Falklands war
the Moon landings
Challenger disaster
9/11
tiannamen (sp?) square

these are all ones that stay in the mind for me (although i'm too young to remember the moon landings, but still - without them....who knows?)

you could say the EU is a defining "moment" - try to imagine europe without it now.

the major thing to remember is that the setting serves the story. if too much detail will overload the tale, cut it out.
 
Do I get to do this? I'm not up on the politenesses in collaboration.

Two mathematicians, gift wrapped, in case anyone might need them (yeah, I've noticed my sentence lengths are getting excessive, but this isn't - OK, I'll work on it)

Katerina Skovajsa, more often referred to as 'Kate', had been one of the crew who had not been clamouring to get aboard. "Mathematics" she had said "are in the head. I can do them as well here as anywhere in the universe; in the many universes."

Mathematics, like chess or music, generates prodigies. Kate's paper 'An application of chaos theory to polynomial solutions of undefined matrix variables' had won her her doctorate the week before her nineteenth birthday and, since the passage of the Visitors, seemed likely to net her a Nobel prize someway down the line; it was the closest our humans had come to predicting the existence of sheaves.

Dark haired, dark eyed, a truly forgettable face, she was not unattractive. Her regular workouts in the gym were, perhaps, more to prevent other people intruding on her thoughts than for any personal fitness fetish, but they had left her a trim, hard body which more or less matched her mind.

The University of Prague had no desire to see her go, and she saw no reason to want to leave the snug apartment in the old town she shared with her hauty, aristocratic Abyssinian cat, called 'Abysmal' or sometimes, particularly when she had been unable to attract her human's attention to the food bowl in a while, 'the Abyss'.

Cleaning staff and her students had keys to her flat, and were used to going in and tidying up when inspiration struck; Abysmal knew them all by smell, and had worked out techniques for winning caresses and treats from each of them.

It was her students (fifty percent of the world population of those who understood her mathematical reasoning) who, not wishing to lose her, pointed out that she could fail the physical portion of the testing, and would be home in comfort. She rejected this solution, and at her survival test had been fourth home; she hadn't even removed her cold-weather gear before going to the computer to write a paper about 'Topological variance in snowdrifts due to temperature-induced density differences in the various layers', immediately published in 'Modern Topology' and later instrumental in avalanche prediction.

The few men she had dated over the years had found it difficult to maintain a conversation with someone who, at a romantic dinner, could be calculating the air currents in the restaurant from candle-flicker patterns, while her very rare excursions into the world of sex had left her partners doing all the work, and suspecting that if inspiration struck during the actual physical process they would have ended up with formulae written all over their skin.

Not that she was the absent-minded scientist who had to be led around by the hand. She was merely concentrated. She actually had a driving licence, although none of her colleagues would have dared get in a car with her behind the wheel.

Fortunately she didn't need a car, Prague's excellent public transport system covering all her modest needs.

She knew what the Euroleaders were hoping: that she would come up with a way of navigating the ever-changing geometry of the flux between sheaves. In vain she had tried to explain that she could work on the mathematics just as easily from home, that her kind of calculations didn't require experimentation, or her physical presence; television showed scientists on the spot, so to the spot she was sent.

All the Visitors, and the Visitors' Visitors before them all the way back to this invention of the translocator (not necessarily the only one, or even the first) had managed was a 'retrace steps' technique, the path back to the previous sheaf being known, even if the precise geometry was not.

Every split, and there were typically two or three per second, redefined the topology of all the others to accommodate it, and their occurrence was random. Several cases were on record, with precise navigational details, of sheaves that had been reached by two or more alternative routes, but there was no means of predicting when it would happen.

They expected a lot of her, but she had to admit it was an interesting problem and accept that, despite the best mathematical minds of a hundred or a thousand worlds having failed, it only took one intuition, one spark of original inspiration, and they would have something really good to sell when the Visitors came back through.

Then she would have her Nobel prize and still more newspaper reporters to escape from, but nobody separating her from her cat or students.

Penelope Xandranic was a different fish altogether. Where her colleague scribed the form of the universe with a fine pen, she used a paint roller. Statistical probabilities, blocked in solid angles outside which the path cannot stray, the ship is branching just as fast as the universes it inhabits, so sending a five hundred gram unmanned probe with exactly the right amount of energy to leave and come back to say whether there was a beacon at the correct distance…

She'd have made a good engineer, if anyone, let alone a girl, from her social stratum had been allowed to be an engineer.

The worst risk she foresaw was that the ship would meet itself by a different route; the absolute best would be to discover a beacon set by someone from a completely different probability line.

She differed from Kate in a number of other ways, too; socially active, an enthusiastic and popular lover, generally well liked, Even so, the two young women (twenty four and twenty one, respectively – mathematicians leave their creative phase and move onto consolidation early) got on very well together, possibly because each of them was the only one the other could expect to understand her.
 

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