New GRRM Update on ADWD

And then you get a second boost when the HBO's series is on the TV.

Not from the fifth book in the series, unless vast numbers of people are going to pick up all five at once for some reason.

I expect sales of Book 1, A Game of Thrones, to go up sharply after the TV series debuts and then slightly smaller increases at short intervals for the other books. ADWD I can see actually being less affected than the others because it will still be in hardcover, and most people wait for the paperback before reading it.
 
Anyone knows where the isle of cedars is?
I'm thinking dany have left her city and went there.
 
It's in Slavers Bay, just west of Astapor so it's probably more likely someone coming to visit Dany in Meereen, which is to the North of Astapor.
 
Not from the fifth book in the series, unless vast numbers of people are going to pick up all five at once for some reason.
Some people are like that, though: they've never heard of something, but then they see an adaptation they like and then they buy all the books, in this case five of them. (Or all four of them. :()

I'm not the world's greatest consumer, and I have been impervious to adverts for four decades or more, but this is near enough what I did when I "saw" how good the books were; in my case I saw the recommendations for the series on this site, started reading the first and was hooked, to the extent of buying the other four (as ASOS comes as two paperbacks).

And given the pace of TV production, some folk won't want to wait until Series Five (due no earlier than 2015, if at all) and so they'll "cheat" by reading the books. (You know, I've heard it said that even people who've only seen the books have, over the last decade or so, become a tiny bit impatient with the slow arrival of the later books. Who'd've thunk it?)
 
Some people are like that, though: they've never heard of something, but then they see an adaptation they like and then they buy all the books, in this case five of them. (Or all four of them. :()

I'm not the world's greatest consumer, and I have been impervious to adverts for four decades or more, but this is near enough what I did when I "saw" how good the books were; in my case I saw the recommendations for the series on this site, started reading the first and was hooked, to the extent of buying the other four (as ASOS comes as two paperbacks).

And given the pace of TV production, some folk won't want to wait until Series Five (due no earlier than 2015, if at all) and so they'll "cheat" by reading the books. (You know, I've heard it said that even people who've only seen the books have, over the last decade or so, become a tiny bit impatient with the slow arrival of the later books. Who'd've thunk it?)[/QUOTE]
Using the Harry Potter series as a template, one can probably infer a few things about how consumers of a book series being adapted to film/television will behave.

I don't have hard numbers, but based on everything I read about each new HP release, there weren't a lot of people wanting to see the next movie before they would buy the current book. I also think that the total number of people reading the HP series grew with the release of each book, although I wouldn't call that a causal relationship. For whatever reason, the HP fanbase grew as each book was released, maybe because of an ever growing number of kids learning to read and wanting to join in on the fun that the older kids were having. In the case of ASOIAF, there will be a few differences, but enough similarities to make a prediction (I think). First, the viewership of HBO is far less than the number of people that would potentially go to see a movie. of those who actually do have HBO, it's hard to know how many would watch the pilot. On the other hand, there will be people who don't have HBO who will get it either to see the pilot, but more likely to watch the series if it is picked up. This happened with The Sopranos btw.

I guess I've been rambling, so to summarize, probably no one will wait to see new seasons of the HBO series before reading the books. The HBO series will serve to add people who never read the books, but I think the sales of the books will be fairly independent of how the series does.
 
I'm not an HBO subscriber and so have only seen HBO series that appeared on free-to-air channels in the UK: basically The Sopranos and The Wire. As far as I know, these (and Six Feet Under, Rome and Showtime's The Tudors) were straight to broadcast works, so it is hard to extropolate from them (given that if there are any books (are there?), they'll be tie-ins sold after the associated transmission).

And the Harry Potter phenomenon is not much of a comparison either, given that it's one of those black swans, from which lessons can rarely be learnt.

I suppose that there are equivalents. For instance, does anyone know how Showtime's Dexter affected sales of the books? (And do we expect HBO's A Game of Thrones to follow its book more closely than did Dexter? I certainly do.)
 
I think the Dexter and True Blood (to who's success ASoIaF will pretty clearly owe a debt if it does eventually see the light of day) are almost certainly better examples then Harry Potter (which was a bona fide smash hit before the movies saw the light of day). And both series (of books) are much more prominent thanks to their television exposure.

I don't think it's just about people who have HBO or Showtime... It's about articles in Time and Entertainment weekly and more prominent positions in the book store. Anecdotally I had never heard of Sookie Stackhouse or Dexter Morgan until they graced the small screen.
 
Sales of the Sookie Stackhouse books tripled after the TV series started.
 
Most of you guys have probably seen this, but yesterday's update came across rather nice...

Not Done Yet

Feb. 8th, 2010 at 8:06 PM

Spent the day in the rainwood. 1205 pages. More to come.

DANCE has now passed A CLASH OF KINGS to become the second longest volume in the series, though still three hundred pages shorter than the monster that was A STORM WITH SWORDS.

Mood: hopeful
 


Spent the day in the rainwood. 1205 pages. More to come.

DANCE has now passed A CLASH OF KINGS to become the second longest volume in the series, though still three hundred pages shorter than the monster that was A STORM WITH SWORDS.

Mood: hopeful

That does sound promising. I've been trying to distract myself away from thinking about it (been re-reading Dune) but this almost sounds like ADWD is 90% or so finished.

And I like 'hopeful' - seems like Martin has got some momentum again.

One word question though: Rainwood? :confused:
 
it's disturbing to me that GRRM got the name of ASOS wrong :( DId someone post that for him? Mental error? Memory loss?
 
That does sound promising. I've been trying to distract myself away from thinking about it (been re-reading Dune) but this almost sounds like ADWD is 90% or so finished.

And I like 'hopeful' - seems like Martin has got some momentum again.

One word question though: Rainwood? :confused:

The Rainwood is the forest that extends along Cape Wrath in the Stormlands, south of Storm's End, along the coast of the Sea of Dorne and with the island of Estermont lying just off its coastlines. Davos Seaworth is the Lord of the Rainwood and has a keep on Cape Wrath.
 
Does anyone have any thoughts which PoV will be taking us to Dorne? I can't, for the life of me, figure it out. Davos? Is the surprise PoV Darkstar?
 
The Rainwood is the forest that extends along Cape Wrath in the Stormlands, south of Storm's End, along the coast of the Sea of Dorne and with the island of Estermont lying just off its coastlines. Davos Seaworth is the Lord of the Rainwood and has a keep on Cape Wrath.

Most gracious of you, Wert.
 
Could also be part of a Davos POV or flashback or even the yet-to-be-revealed-until-the-book-is-published POV (my money's on Jorah).
 
Not Done Yet


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But today was a good, productive day. Only problem is that the chapter I finished just now is going to require that I go back and rewrite one of the chapters I finished last week. Minor stuff, though. Shouldn't take more than a day. (Famous last words, I know).

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I'm probably reading to much into the titles of the entires, but this is the second on called "Not Done Yet". George is leading up to DONE, I can just feel it :)
 

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