Re: DISCUSSION the 75 Word Challenge JUNE 2011
Well, as long as you consciously fail to vote ....
Well, as long as you consciously fail to vote ....
Discussion -- June 2011 Challenge
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Re: DISCUSSION the 75 Word Challenge JUNE 2011
Well, I've taken the plunge and posted my story. Considered various titles, but none of them quite fit, so I decided it was better without any.
Well, I've taken the plunge and posted my story. Considered various titles, but none of them quite fit, so I decided it was better without any.
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Re: DISCUSSION the 75 Word Challenge JUNE 2011
UG! All debates to the side I can not cobble together anything worth posting. Nor can I Kipple anything I do manage to scrawl. This is not a challenge its torture! In the immortal words of the towns folk in "Blazing Saddles". . .
UG! All debates to the side I can not cobble together anything worth posting. Nor can I Kipple anything I do manage to scrawl. This is not a challenge its torture! In the immortal words of the towns folk in "Blazing Saddles". . .
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Hurrah!!
Finally, after days of blank-brainness, I have the first inkling of an idea. It's basic, and is going to take some real mental gymnastics to squeeze and twist it into 75 words, but its there!!!
Am still not going to read any more stories until I've done mine though, as I know I'll be intimidated by the quality of everyone else's and won't post mine
*goes off to do a little dance round the kitchen with a much needed cup of coffee*
Hurrah!!
Finally, after days of blank-brainness, I have the first inkling of an idea. It's basic, and is going to take some real mental gymnastics to squeeze and twist it into 75 words, but its there!!!
Am still not going to read any more stories until I've done mine though, as I know I'll be intimidated by the quality of everyone else's and won't post mine
*goes off to do a little dance round the kitchen with a much needed cup of coffee*
Boneman
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Yeah, but how's the weather? Balmy days, blue skies, and warmth on your skin...? Grateful raccoons for company... some people have it cushy... I bet it's in the Napa valley, too!
ps: Blimey, just saw Teresa and Keri's entry - both damn good....
Yeah, but how's the weather? Balmy days, blue skies, and warmth on your skin...? Grateful raccoons for company... some people have it cushy... I bet it's in the Napa valley, too!
ps: Blimey, just saw Teresa and Keri's entry - both damn good....
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Which only makes it worse. I'm nowhere near the Napa Valley, and to go all that way when the amenities are so awful, and likely as not I'll be bitten by a raccoon ...!
(Oh, and thanks for the mention.)
Keri, I think we were probably posting around the same time, but I kept dithering over a title and you beat me to it.
Which only makes it worse. I'm nowhere near the Napa Valley, and to go all that way when the amenities are so awful, and likely as not I'll be bitten by a raccoon ...!
(Oh, and thanks for the mention.)
Keri, I think we were probably posting around the same time, but I kept dithering over a title and you beat me to it.
Boneman
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I recently checked the rules for the challenges as posted by my learned friend, and in strict interpretation of them, we should all be disqualified for plagiarism....
ps: teresa, you're up early aren't you?
I recently checked the rules for the challenges as posted by my learned friend, and in strict interpretation of them, we should all be disqualified for plagiarism....
ps: teresa, you're up early aren't you?
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Aun Doorback
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Interesting point Boneman - If you want to open a can of worms.
Does the manipulation of original Kipling work constitute plagiarism and if so, has the theme itself tied people into that mode? If that is the case, then I expect that those entries that have a more direct relationship to Kipling's work i.e variations of the 'If' poem, or 'Boots' are probably more likely to get a vote, as they seem more within the style most of us know? Re: All the posts from people saying 'I don't have a clue about Kipling?'
One could argue that writing in the style of Kipling should be more about his use of language and tone. The stories of Jungle Book are stories told in the third person by a narrator, as one might tell bedtime stories to children.
I think we all had more freedom in this challenge to simply express ourselves, than prehaps we thought and worried about. Personally I think there are some very strong entires, Mosaix, Keri and Teresa's being in that category.
I recently checked the rules for the challenges as posted by my learned friend, and in strict interpretation of them, we should all be disqualified for plagiarism....
ps: teresa, you're up early aren't you?
Interesting point Boneman - If you want to open a can of worms.
Does the manipulation of original Kipling work constitute plagiarism and if so, has the theme itself tied people into that mode? If that is the case, then I expect that those entries that have a more direct relationship to Kipling's work i.e variations of the 'If' poem, or 'Boots' are probably more likely to get a vote, as they seem more within the style most of us know? Re: All the posts from people saying 'I don't have a clue about Kipling?'
One could argue that writing in the style of Kipling should be more about his use of language and tone. The stories of Jungle Book are stories told in the third person by a narrator, as one might tell bedtime stories to children.
I think we all had more freedom in this challenge to simply express ourselves, than prehaps we thought and worried about. Personally I think there are some very strong entires, Mosaix, Keri and Teresa's being in that category.
Boneman
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Definitely... I just googled 'if' and worked through the verses until I found one I could palgai.... work in a similar theme.
Definitely... I just googled 'if' and worked through the verses until I found one I could palgai.... work in a similar theme.
GreenKidx
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Well, I am posted. The "stress" was killing me. Decided brooding over my entry would do me little good. And besides, I was anxious to read all the other entries! Which I'm gonna do right now!
Well, I am posted. The "stress" was killing me. Decided brooding over my entry would do me little good. And besides, I was anxious to read all the other entries! Which I'm gonna do right now!
GreenKidx
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Glad I waited to read the stories. I might not have posted. Very interesting month we have here...many of the stories went right over my head.
Glad I waited to read the stories. I might not have posted. Very interesting month we have here...many of the stories went right over my head.
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Re: DISCUSSION the 75 Word Challenge JUNE 2011
I posted my story in haste and now regret it. I just came across a rare unpublished Kipling writing that states, "Damn the spellingg, damm the gramer, danm the punk-u- acihns, full speed ahead !!!!!!"
Did 'e drink a lot?
note,;--quote may not be QV
I posted my story in haste and now regret it. I just came across a rare unpublished Kipling writing that states, "Damn the spellingg, damm the gramer, danm the punk-u- acihns, full speed ahead !!!!!!"
Did 'e drink a lot?
note,;--quote may not be QV
Re: DISCUSSION the 75 Word Challenge JUNE 2011
great minds and all that..
Surely the skill in a 'Parody' is to retain much of the familiarity of the original yet to convey a very different message. Where does Parody end and plagiarism begin??
Definitely... I just googled 'if' and worked through the verses until I found one I could palgai.... work in a similar theme.
great minds and all that..
Surely the skill in a 'Parody' is to retain much of the familiarity of the original yet to convey a very different message. Where does Parody end and plagiarism begin??
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Re: DISCUSSION the 75 Word Challenge JUNE 2011
Phew! Like GreenKidx I was getting a bit stressed out over this challenge, so I decided to just get it done. I scrapped my original idea (for now! I may revisit it at some other point as I rather liked it) and went with the strange little tale that popped into my head while reading some Kipling.
Phew! Like GreenKidx I was getting a bit stressed out over this challenge, so I decided to just get it done. I scrapped my original idea (for now! I may revisit it at some other point as I rather liked it) and went with the strange little tale that popped into my head while reading some Kipling.
Re: DISCUSSION the 75 Word Challenge JUNE 2011
Parody allows a lot of latitude before it's considered plagiarism. So I don't think that anyone here needs to worry about that. Certainly not for anything we have seen so far.
On the other hand, there is nothing that says this month's entries have to be parody, so no one has to worry about that, either. Just as we each interpret the theme differently each month, so "the style of Kipling" may mean something different to each of us, as we write our stories, and later when we vote.
The main thing is to stretch ourselves a little, meet the Challenge in the way* that seems best to each of us, and have fun doing so.
*There are at least nine and sixty of these. Kipling would tell you so himself.
Parody allows a lot of latitude before it's considered plagiarism. So I don't think that anyone here needs to worry about that. Certainly not for anything we have seen so far.
On the other hand, there is nothing that says this month's entries have to be parody, so no one has to worry about that, either. Just as we each interpret the theme differently each month, so "the style of Kipling" may mean something different to each of us, as we write our stories, and later when we vote.
The main thing is to stretch ourselves a little, meet the Challenge in the way* that seems best to each of us, and have fun doing so.
*There are at least nine and sixty of these. Kipling would tell you so himself.
Boneman
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Re: DISCUSSION the 75 Word Challenge JUNE 2011
And my original posting about plagiarism was (supposed to be) very much tongue-in-cheek, since Chris had directed us there. More of the entries seem to have been humourous this month, so far. So I'd say we are having fun with it, even if it seemed so much more of a challenge, when we first looked at it.
And my original posting about plagiarism was (supposed to be) very much tongue-in-cheek, since Chris had directed us there. More of the entries seem to have been humourous this month, so far. So I'd say we are having fun with it, even if it seemed so much more of a challenge, when we first looked at it.
Re: DISCUSSION the 75 Word Challenge JUNE 2011
And what's more, every single one of them is right...!!
And what's more, every single one of them is right...!!
Aun Doorback
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Re: DISCUSSION the 75 Word Challenge JUNE 2011
And my original posting about plagiarism was (supposed to be) very much tongue-in-cheekAnd my original posting about plagiarism was (supposed to be) very much tongue-in-cheek, since Chris had directed us there. More of the entries seem to have been humourous this month, so far. So I'd say we are having fun with it, even if it seemed so much more of a challenge, when we first looked at it.
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Re: DISCUSSION the 75 Word Challenge JUNE 2011
I'd say they are more tributes than parodies or plagiarism. I'm sure that Kipling would have found it exceedingly good that there were people almost century later studying his work and attempting to emulate him ; and what's more for pleasure not profit.
I'd say they are more tributes than parodies or plagiarism. I'm sure that Kipling would have found it exceedingly good that there were people almost century later studying his work and attempting to emulate him ; and what's more for pleasure not profit.
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