Star Trek: Discovery - new series in 2017

No, I can't watch anything streaming on this laptop.

Should have me new one in a few days, though...
 
Jason Isaacs is ready for the captain's chair. The Liverpool native will play Captain Lorca in the “Star Trek: Discovery,” and he's fine with the possibility that die-hard fans may have difficulty adjusting to the reboot of the beloved franchise.

Isaacs, 54, said the new show will throw away the legacy of William Shatner and Patrick Stewart – and expects it to upset die hard Trekkies.

“I don't mean to sound irreverent when I say I don't care about the die-hard Trek fans,” he told us at an event in Los Angeles. “I only ‘don't care’ about them in the sense that I know they’re all going to watch anyway. I look forward to having the fun of them being outraged, so they can sit up all night and talk about it with each other.”

He’s taking an enterprising approach to the sci-fi franchise.

“It's ‘Star Trek,’ but not as we know it,” he said. “There are places obviously where they’ve observed canon to do with things like uniforms and badges and stuff, but there are places where the rules of storytelling are reinvented.”
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New 'Star Trek' captain does not care if Trekkies like him

I guess they want bad pr as they're looking forward for fans to get pissed.
 
ctg said:
New 'Star Trek' captain does not care if Trekkies like him

I guess they want bad pr as they're looking forward for fans to get pissed.
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What I took from this is that it only establishes the fact that the captain is not the main character in this show. Its not centered on a captain and his crew. So of course traditional trekkies who are used to that and who have seemingly forgotten how progressive trek is will be annoyed

Although he could have worded it differently
 
I think the more annoying thing isn't going to be the format change; DS9 was a format change and its one of the strongest series. It's more that its set in the new-age-star-trek which isn't the same as the old style Startrek. Whilst the visuals are better and the story can be (in theory) better (lets not forget that most fans consider the Original series almost like a spin-off in terms of how seriously its taken next to the other main series); its still a divergence .
 
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Overread said:
I think the more annoying thing isn't going to be the format change; DS9 was a format change and its one of the strongest series.
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Odd, to me.

When DS9 was running, everyone was complaining about it. Personally, I think it was the best scripted and acted of all of them - but ST fans did nothing but complain about it. Even after it ended, I heard a lot of fans call it the "worst" series.
 
Cathbad said:
Odd, to me.

When DS9 was running, everyone was complaining about it. Personally, I think it was the best scripted and acted of all of them - but ST fans did nothing but complain about it. Even after it ended, I heard a lot of fans call it the "worst" series.
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It took me awhile (like a whole decade) to get into it too, and part of that had to do with the "it's the worst star trek," stigma that it has. DS9 was fun and different and I am happy I watched it.
 
Cathbad said:
Odd, to me.

When DS9 was running, everyone was complaining about it. Personally, I think it was the best scripted and acted of all of them - but ST fans did nothing but complain about it. Even after it ended, I heard a lot of fans call it the "worst" series.
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Ah but that was before Enterprise.
 
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Enterprise was fine. I don't get the criticism. Maybe it was too short so each episode people didn't like got amplified?
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I think it's just the culture.

ST & SW fans dis everything that comes out. Like TNG and DS9, a decade or so after ending, Enterprise will be well-liked. ;)
 
Cathbad said:
I think it's just the culture.

ST & SW fans dis everything that comes out. Like TNG and DS9, a decade or so after ending, Enterprise will be well-liked. ;)
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SHHH. Don't tell anybody, but It's actually been over a decade since Enterprise ended. I can't believe it.
 
I agree with "Enterprise." In fact I think it was the best acted, but since it wasn't first, few will consider it the best acted. DS9 didn't quite catch me the way the others did, and not sure why. --- Perhaps because it was mostly in the same system, and the Marque (sp?) didn't really strike me as the threat the Kligons were.
 
Klingons never really struck me as a threat in most of the series where they've been a threat. For all their warrior nation they've always seemed to be living in the past of their warrior nation and never really seemed all that warlike. All bark and no real bite, but if they could bite they'd bite hard. Granted Romulans and Cardassians were mostly the same. I think it stems from most of the series pre-DS9 having very short story pathways so any potential war had to be resolved within one, maybe two episodes.

DS9 with a much longer story arc managed to make a real war of things because the story line didn't have to end within such a short span of time. It was a huge change to how the Startrek approached telling its story. In the Original series you could put most episodes into any order and they'd fit. They were closer to adventure stories in that each one was a single entity that stood pretty much on its own. There were some loose threads that ran through the series, but in general at the end of each episodes everyone was in the same position they were in at the start.

Next Generation played around with some longer story lines and even key character deaths and was a huge build into DS9 which went for several long story arcs that didn't resolve till the last episodes. Voyager was a return back to the adventure format with a single long story arc built in that then morphed into two (get home - kill all borg).


Honestly if nothing else I hope they learn form Babalon 5 and DS9 but I doubt they will. The problem with long story arcs is that you never know if you're going to get a second season, let alone a third or fourth; and heck as Firefly found out sometimes you don't even get your first!
 
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