Westworld

[Cli-Fi]

What if ...

• Ford is the only non-guest, natural human in Westworld?
• Arnold was Ford's first host, created to be his partner?
• When Arnold became a bit too clever, Ford "downgraded" him to Bernard?

I'm really liking this theory and the finale just made it make that much more sense

 

[Cli-Fi]

The finale was amazing, wasn't it?

I did not see that coming.

I sort of did, it was cool to see it happen though. I especially liked the Robot Uprising and how there might be two but really none(?)

Spoiler

I don't really think Ford is dead. I think he has to be gone so that the "humans" need to think they are humans so he fakes his death and none of the hosts are really awakening.

 

[Nate Hoffelder]

I don't think Ford is dead. I think he set up a host to die in his place as part of a greater scheme.

Arnold may or may not be dead.

This show is so ridiculously complicated.

 

[REBerg]

Holy Red Wedding finale! (Only this time, it did not surprise me.)
I loved the scene in which Delores is dragging the Man in Black through the church. The look of pure, amazed terror on his face was priceless.
I also liked Maeve "complimenting" Felix by telling him that he made a terrible human being. Does that mean he and all the WW technicians were unknowing hosts? The expression on his said "yes" to me.

 

[Nate Hoffelder]

Felix isn't a host. Maeve would have recruited him if that were the case.

 

[BAYLOR]

Excellent finale.

 

[Ajid]

I have completely lost interest in this series over the last two weeks. It seems it's becoming drawn out with no ultimate end goal. It feels like lost all over again.

 

[Cli-Fi]

Felix isn't a host. Maeve would have recruited him if that were the case.

Or Felix as a host has a larger role than Maeve does. Or they become the first Human/host couple.

 

[Mister_Oy]

Great end to season 1. I hope everyone waited for the extra scene after the credits

Watched Episode 1 again last night - soooo many "Oh yeah!" moments now haha!

 

[Cli-Fi]

I have completely lost interest in this series over the last two weeks. It seems it's becoming drawn out with no ultimate end goal. It feels like lost all over again.

It may have been too predictable but it was an enjoyable predictability that was a genuine lesson in the Turing Test. While Lost was a bunch of unpredictable events that didn't add up to much anything.

 

[Cli-Fi]

Looks like Samurai World is next: ‘Westworld’ Finale Postmortem: EP Jonathan Nolan On Season 2’s Samurai World, Missing Characters & Dr. Ford’s Fate

 

[REBerg]

Looks like Samurai World is next: ‘Westworld’ Finale Postmortem: EP Jonathan Nolan On Season 2’s Samurai World, Missing Characters & Dr. Ford’s Fate

No second season until 2018! I know good entertainment takes time, but really 2018! "Previously, on Westworld," will be especially useful when the series resumes.
I can't imagine how the ending is going to be cleaned up in the season opener. The action surely cannot be hidden from the rest of the world.
I never thought for a moment that we've seen the last of Ford. Whether he is a "natural born" or artificial human, he is going to want to be around to see the fate of the "new people" he has created.

 

[ctg]

No second season until 2018!

We know now why Person Of Interest's final season was postbones so late and what Mr Nolan has done in the meantime. I mostly see the Westworld as Nolan's second play on the the machine intelligence. He might have done other ones, but PoI and Westworld fall definitely in that realm.

HBO doesn't have a problem on acquiring talents in their production, but I believe it would have been hideously expensive if they'd shown outside world. Now, we can only only speculate what's it really like outside these parks, and what possible can be found in the other parks.

Story for me is complete.

 

[Cli-Fi]

No second season until 2018! I know good entertainment takes time, but really 2018! "Previously, on Westworld," will be especially useful when the series resumes.
I can't imagine how the ending is going to be cleaned up in the season opener. The action surely cannot be hidden from the rest of the world.
I never thought for a moment that we've seen the last of Ford. Whether he is a "natural born" or artificial human, he is going to want to be around to see the fate of the "new people" he has created.

I was playing around with the idea that Ford is not the head and that somewhere there is another invisible hand controlling Ford himself. Arnold or someone else entirely. Making Ford think that he is the one in charge etc... Obviously Ford is not the head of Delos, but he seems to have more power than William. Who at this point basically owns the park, or at least Westworld. Ford has more control over the actions of the hosts etc... but he doesn't seem to be omnipresent. This invisible hand looming over Delos can definitely and easily be done within the nature of the story. I wouldn't be surprised at all. Perhaps with Samurai World they will be introducing some Japanese mythology in there as well for Season 2.

 

[Nate Hoffelder]

What if the Ford we saw was merely a host created by the real Ford?

 

[Mister_Oy]

What if the Ford we saw was merely a host created by the real Ford?

Maybe the host we saw being created when Bernard killed Theresa?

 

[Nate Hoffelder]

Here's a crazy theory about William/MIB's wife:
This "Westworld" Fan Theory Is Either ****ing Insane Or A Huge Coincidence

 

[REBerg]

Looks like Samurai World is next: ‘Westworld’ Finale Postmortem: EP Jonathan Nolan On Season 2’s Samurai World, Missing Characters & Dr. Ford’s Fate

Story for me is complete

I think you're right, ctg.
Each new season may be a complete story arc taking place in another "world" in the same timeframe as season one. I would expect some crossover characters from Westworld (Ford, Bernard/Arnold) in each new season "world," but no real consolidation of the main stories until the final season.

 

[Mr Orange]

what a finale to the season. so many answers and so many questions.

I just saw this, @Mr. Orange, and you touched upon some things that they tied up in the season finale which aired tonight. Let's just say, what I have been suspecting was true all along and most of the reasons why you see people in this show acting in a manner of way which might not make total sense is because they have been programmed to act that way either by Ford or Arnold directly or through proxy by someone(thing) else.

All the mumbo-jumbo has been pretty much tied up except the costumes. I guess they just keep the hosts in the same clothes and have a file saved on storage on what they should wear so it's easily printed out, the next time they die.

almost all of the issues i had are addressed by having Ford as the hand behind everything.

I was playing around with the idea that Ford is not the head and that somewhere there is another invisible hand controlling Ford himself. Arnold or someone else entirely. Making Ford think that he is the one in charge etc... Obviously Ford is not the head of Delos, but he seems to have more power than William. Who at this point basically owns the park, or at least Westworld. Ford has more control over the actions of the hosts etc... but he doesn't seem to be omnipresent. This invisible hand looming over Delos can definitely and easily be done within the nature of the story. I wouldn't be surprised at all. Perhaps with Samurai World they will be introducing some Japanese mythology in there as well for Season 2.

i had a thought that Ford is a host. not just the Ford that got killed at the end, but the Ford that has been running the park for the last 35 years. a host being controlled by someone else - Arnold maybe. and that maybe it was Ford that got killed in the Wyatt massacre scene, not Arnold, who has been living with the ghost tribe for the last 30 years. after all, "Arnold" is still doing a lot of coding.

 

[svalbard]

The last two episodes have saved the series for me. The finale was particularly good. Loved Maeve's escape, the scenes with Dolores and William were brilliant, and the ending was superb. I will be back for Season 2.