Game of Thrones: 8.05 - The Bells

Someone suggested that Rhaegal scenario , especially if it had come at the ringing of the bells, then Tyrion would have had a terrible quandary and that would have been cool. They missed a beat there.
Maybe Circe could have set off wildfire at the same time! It would be in character for her, and kill of some of Jons forces.
 
I have a theory that they have held back on Bran and a deeper explanation on the Night King and the White Walkers so that they can explore them in the prequels.
It makes sense about the Night King, White Walkers, and also The Green Man origin. But I would have thought a bit more has to be shown on Bran here. As what has he done? Been bait, and confirmed some suspicions. People died to help him start his evolution and come back.
 
The thing with the letter I took a different way. The first time he is interupted while writing it. The second time they show it, he seems to finish it but burns it in a pot on his desk.
It wasn't very clear, but I think that was him changing his mind.......and then Tyrion betrays him anyway
It seems to be hours between the two incidents. The second time it is evening. Surely a letter/some letters were sent off. Though of course it is easier for the writers to assume it wasn't. I don't really see why they would have to show the letter writing twice if at least one wasn't sent. Or you mean he was writing a letter, got rid of it, and then wrote a different letter? I think that would have been made clearer if so.
 
Honestly the Bran thing irkes just about everyone i talk to about game of thrones. He sit there, says i 'm going now and all we get is a raven overview of the battle. what's the point?
 
Honestly the Bran thing irkes just about everyone i talk to about game of thrones. He sit there, says i 'm going now and all we get is a raven overview of the battle. what's the point?

The point of it was that he needed to warg to draw the Night King's attention. That's what he was doing, sending out a signal, "here i am, come get me"

Im more annoyed that he waited until so many were dead before doing so.
 
I'm sorry, I should have read the other comments, but I just had to get this out there: Bran wargs into Drogon, Drogon eats Dany. That way at least, the Three Eyed Raven plot has had a slightly better conclusion.
Or the writers take the easy way out and Jon harpoons Drogon, where an episode before, no one could get a clear shot.
 
The point of it was that he needed to warg to draw the Night King's attention. That's what he was doing, sending out a signal, "here i am, come get me"

Im more annoyed that he waited until so many were dead before doing so.

Didn't Bran say earlier that the Night King always knows where he is because of the bad touch he got a few seasons back?
 
Found this article exploring the whole "People no longer like GoT because the style of story has dramatically changed" angle and I like it. The thesis is that GoT started as a series about how characters reacted to organisations and societal pressures - a sociological story. And it's now a standard Hollywood story of the individual.

I find it persuasive.

There are the fans and then there is the large majority of the viewers.

And having one of the most dedicated and vocal fanbases in recent history - maybe the most, maybe ever - probably has a lot to do with how a large majority of the viewers got there.
 
I've been thinking about this a bit, and I believe that a few changes to this episode would have suited this story better. The biggest problem is Dany's flip, as I think it has churned up this whole mess. If they had done a scene, where Dany would have argued with Jon or Tyrion or all his advisor and just shown that there is logic in her action, a lot of this could have been forgiven. Now we have the stare, the grunt and flying around the city before she turns on the napalm thrower.

Even on the flight, if they'd shown people being mad at her for killing so many people in her initial attack, it could have strengthened her case and the audience could have accepted it, instead of wanting a change. Maybe in modern days we would have written in a "what are you doing?" mobile scene, but in the epic fantasy settings that is totally unacceptable.

Something in me is wishing that Weiss and Benioff will pull amazing, superb ending, but the realistic in me thinks it's going to be a cock-up. I guess we'll have to wait a couple more days to see if they can do it, but personally to me it has been educational to think how would I've made it better.
 
Maybe the Ravens went off into the ether, the same as Varys's letters may have.
 
When all this is over I would like to know what the '3rd' show runner thinks? As it is Bryan Cogman's 2nd episode is more carefully written of all the episodes so far.
I have not problem with the story narrative , but it sure feels like D&D have been hasty, season's 5 and 6 just came off better than 7 and 8 have, 5 had Hardhome and 6 had Battle of The Bastards.
So far they seem to have finished S8 with episode 3 and are kind of going thorough the motions to get the thing over.
 
For all our complaining it is superior to the likes of Shannara Chronicles
Actually there is a lot of other good stuff on TV , but GoT is the only show I go out of my way to watch, mainly because it is like nothing else on TV....
(except The Expanse)
 
For all our complaining it is superior to the likes of Shannara Chronicles
Actually there is a lot of other good stuff on TV , but GoT is the only show I go out of my way to watch, mainly because it is like nothing else on TV....
(except The Expanse)
 

they're a bit butthurt if this is true. I guess it's only natural, as people are saying they themselves can't write an epic of this proportion without source material. Which in a way they are admitting by citing a lack of source material.
 
Found this article exploring the whole "People no longer like GoT because the style of story has dramatically changed" angle and I like it. The thesis is that GoT started as a series about how characters reacted to organisations and societal pressures - a sociological story. And it's now a standard Hollywood story of the individual.

I find it persuasive.

That is indeed a very good article, not just relating to GoT but storytelling in general.
 
I guess it's only natural, as people are saying they themselves can't write an epic of this proportion without source material. Which in a way they are admitting by citing a lack of source material.
I have to counter this by saying that I have only read the first book, and as such, maybe I know nothing, but I personally thought they had done a reasonable job. It is hard to continue finish a novel, or a series in the same style as the original author or to write a sequel, though many have tried i.e. Gone with the Wind, Mystery of Edwin Drood, the James Bond franchise.

However, then I just read this:
“I’d love to see them do it. I’d love to see them condense 1500 individual plotlines into one season in a way that makes everyone happy, without any source material whatsoever. I’m sure they’ll do just great.”
That was their job. That is what they have been paid to do (quite highly as the link also alludes to.) If they didn't think they were up to the task themselves they they could have brought in help.
 

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