Why say Tyrion's a Targ?

[xLORDSNOWx]

On a much smaller scale, i think Boaz understands what GRRM is going through.

@ Boaz, you see what happens when you promise something and dont deliver in a reasonable time.

FINISH THE FRIGGIN THEORY ALREADY!

 

[Ursa major]

Perhaps there's a formula involved:

B + T = 0





But joking aside, I expect the theory is well worth waiting for, so I'm going to leave Boaz to do it justice.

 

[Boaz]

The basis of the theory is that the entire world revolves around Valyria... specifically House Targaryen. There are threads of it everywhere.... but I cannot connect them. Either I'm an idiot or GRRM is a master teaser or both... GAAAAAHHHHH!!!!

I don't think it's going to work.

 

[Boaz]

I'm trying to get some inspiration from Evan Williams tonight... not working yet.

 

[Wiggum]

We know, and this is a generaliztion, that Jon's lineage isn't what it's said to be. I'm not saying Jon's a Targ coupled with a Stark, but he isn't a simple ******* of Ned's.

From the way Tywin, who put smart people behind him, reacted to Tyrion, I can't believe they were actually family. Tywin put being practical above anything else, and he knew Tyrion was more than able.

 

[xLORDSNOWx]

We know, and this is a generaliztion, that Jon's lineage isn't what it's said to be. I'm not saying Jon's a Targ coupled with a Stark, but he isn't a simple ******* of Ned's.

From the way Tywin, who put smart people behind him, reacted to Tyrion, I can't believe they were actually family. Tywin put being practical above anything else, and he knew Tyrion was more than able.

There only appears to be a few possible theories for Jon.

L + R = J
A + E = J

Or, as I mentioned in another thread, Jon and Ned (the Dornish kid Arya met who was his milk brother) were swapped at birth.

The only theory that would have him as one of the 3 dragon heads would be L + R = J. Otherwise, he may be just a central character that we have all grown to expect big things from.

However, him being bound by his current duty makes you wonder if
1) he will break his oath and joins the battle
2) the wall and watch is destroyed and he goes down with it
3) some of the remaining battles will be at the wall, to keep Jons character active
4) he is forced to go ranging (such as Mormont) and is swept into Battle

We still can't forget Winter is Coming, and those without proper provisions will starve as this may be a long cold winter.

Did I miss anything, if not, which side of the many fences are you on?

 

[No One]

Boaz - maybe it's time to submit the theory to the community anyway. A hive brain must be more effective than just one. Or has this become a matter of personal obsession? It wouldn't be the first time a Grand Unified Theory has driven someone to madness.

xLordSnowx - for me there's also the question of what if Melisande has plans for Jon? What if she knows that Stannis is not the prophesied saviour and that Lightbringer is false (as implied by Aemon)? Not saying that Jon is necessarily "the One", but he could be a major factor.

 

[Ursa major]

As with all Grand Unified Theories, the trick is to get the required level of gravity.

 

[Eulalia]

Very wise, Ursa.

Here I was thinking it was enzymes and bacteria.

 

[No One]

I guess it's different for everyone - I for one would like someone to explain to me (as if I were 8 years old) what exactly the Weak Nuclear Force is .

Boaz may be stumped by GRRM, but he might solve the riddle of the universe!

 

[Boaz]

Sheesh... Okay, mayhaps (that's the trick, isn't it?) I reached too far... mayhaps I've overstepped my bounds as an online fan (Are there boundaries?)... mayhaps I've drunk too much bourbon (even though it's not yet 2 p.m.)... but mayhaps I should just post what I have... Like Jaime thought, "It all comes back to Aerys..."

 

[Eulalia]

I think "it all comes back to Aerys", is a fine G.U.T.

May there be many more disunified postulates as well!

I notice Aerys is very close to Ares, the Greek god of war.

 

[Wiggum]

Jon will never forsake his oaths...again. He is pledged, (this is a founding member of YADL speaking), and will remain that way. If he finds Benjen, The Watch will have a minor rebirth. Stannis knew it was time to come to the North, Dany will too. I just don't see how it will be a comfortable feeling when a Targ lands on The Wall, especially with Jon as the head of The Night's Watch. He doesn't know Dany, but he knows his oath.

 

[the smiling weirwood]

Wait, what is A+E=J?

I don't know who A and E are, but they don't sound like Starks, and its just not possible that Jon isn't a Stark.

 

[xLORDSNOWx]

Wait, what is A+E=J?

I don't know who A and E are, but they don't sound like Starks, and its just not possible that Jon isn't a Stark.

Ashara Dayne + Eddard Stark

However, Jon did have a dream where he was shouting, "I am not a Stark". If you read into that, then it's very possible that he isn't a Stark.

 

[Wiggum]

We know someone outside of Stannis is coming to the wall.

I hope it's Anthony Bourdain, with a cast iron pan, and disregard for wolves.

Seriously, I do hope it's Bourdain, with a cast iron pan, and a love for the North.

Could you imagine what might happen if Anthony and Tyrion spent an evening together?

Dany isn't ready yet, and Stannis is undermanned.

That leaves Benjen, The Blackfish, and Reed.

Howland is going to protect his own turf. The Blackfish, at best, has a small troop behind him.

That leaves Benjen. If he can bring his own rangers, plus a firstborn.....Not only would that help to solidify The Wall, it might bring Howland out.

 

[TK-421]

Holly Septon! This is no longer about Tyrion being a Targ. Boaz has reneged! Run for the hills!

 

[Boaz]

I admit to having a serious bias against east coasters and especially against New Yorkers, but Bourdain is great. Mayhaps Anthony Bourdain is Hot Pie's father.

I'm not ready to completely disassociate myself from Tyraen Targaryen, but I'll try to post soon regarding Jaeme Targaryen... I just need more time to piece it all together.

 

[The Imp]

I admit to having a serious bias against east coasters and especially against New Yorkers, but Bourdain is great. Mayhaps Anthony Bourdain is Hot Pie's father.

I'm not ready to completely disassociate myself from Tyraen Targaryen, but I'll try to post soon regarding Jaeme Targaryen... I just need more time to piece it all together.

Did you have some bad experiences with evil New Yorkers? I'm curious as to the source of this bias. My experience with New yorkers is that they are as nice as anyone else in the country, just more "aggressive" becuase of the amazingly fast pace in that city.

 

[Young stormlord]

I have found conclusive proof that Tyrion is a Targ! Here it goes:

ASOS, Dany's chapter. Dany is talking with Titan's *******, leader of sellswords. And he asks her something pretty damn rude. He asks her(paraphrased):

I've slept with your sister in house of pleasure in Braavos. Or maybe it was you?

So there you are. Since the ******* is not rich enough to sleep with Black Pearl which has blood of the dragons in her veins, the next possible solution is Lanna, Tyrion's 14 year old blond and pretty daughter. The girl of similar age as Danny.

So there you go. Complete and ultimate proof!