Least Favorite Characters

Shame on you Arya...his age shouldn't matter if it's true love.
The fact that he's a half-witted loser who fails at everything he does is the reason why she should hate him, not his age.
Looser-ness is a good reason to hate him.
 
Okay, so it wouldn't exactly be Harold and Maude-esque, but still... she's a little young for him. Just a wee bit.

And yes, he is a total loser. You just want to sit him down, take his hand, and have a nice long talk with him about his decision-making skills.
 
age doesn't matter, 14 (if that) compared to what is likely over 40
Now that is a pretty picture, E = mc² and true love = Pedofilian Pervert
 
OMG, that is totally ewww. No girl that young should be subjected to shoulder and back hair. :(
 
Arya Stark - A tomboy in a time and place where such things were unheard of. Unrealistic, seems to get away with much due to plot devices. Bland as a character and never does anything really interesting.

Brienne Tarth - Another tomboy though somewhat more believable. Another bland character who isn't involved in anything that's worth mentioning. Her chapters in AFFC were just dull and didn't have much bearing on anything that's happening in the series.

Samwell Tarly - Yet another bland character who doesn't do much. His chapters in the beginning of AFFC at least had Aemon Targaryen in them and his talks and feverish ravings had some interesting things in them but besides that, Samwell's chapters just bored, except the very last one.

Daenerys Targaryen - She seems to get her way too easily and the dragons seem too much like plain plot devices for her to get her way. Also, things have gone on for four books already and her doings haven't had much to do with the actual interesting stuff going on in the Seven Kingdoms. Still, I like her much more than the three first mentioned just because she is a Targaryen and very pivotal to the big plot.

There are some minor characters that I don't much care for like Beric Dondarrion, Hodor, Rickon, Areo Hotah (I think that was the name), Belwas and I guess others who I can't remember right now.

Then there are characters that I would like to see dead (some are) but still like in a way because they are (or were) important for the story. Gregor Clegane, Alliser Thorne, Janos Slynt, Dontos, Petyr Baelish. Actually Gregor Clegane makes for such great stories, names and fights that you gotta like him even though he has no real redeeming features. Just the nickname, The Mountain That Rides, and the sheer imposing bulk and The Hound's want for revenge makes for amazing storytelling. With Littlefinger it's the sheer unbelievable scheming and how much into the future he has planned everything. Who does he actually work for and how far does he want to go with his powermongering?

I can understand why people hate or dislike such characters as Cersei, Robert Baratheon, Tywin etc. but I find that at least the three I mentioned are all victims of circumstances and very tragic characters, Cersei especially having to marry the man who killed the only man she ever really had feelings for.
 
I am thinking Cersei liked Robert as well, that is until Lyanna name came up
 
KiwiBird said:
I am thinking Cersei liked Robert as well, that is until Lyanna name came up
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I seriously doubt it. It was quite clearly established, in I think AFFC but could've been in ASOS too, how infatuated she was with Rhaegar so she was bitter when Rhaegar's father didn't agree to the marriage and even more so when she had to marry Robert who had killed Rhaegar at The Trident. I guess she might've been more kind to him had he not pined after Lyanna, especially when she was the one Rhaegar actually fell in love with.
 
maybe in AFFC dont know, but in A game of Thrones she seems to concur Ned words of how he looked every bit a king, up until the moment he called her lyanna
 
Whoa, whoa there MacMoney, you just brought up 4 characters that are much beloved by most fans on these boards (maybe Brienne less than the other three).

I will let someone more articulate than I am right now express shock at the inclusion of our dear feisty and soon-to-be assassin Arya; the true heir to Horn Hill, seducer of Wildling women and slayer of the Others, Sam Tarly; wielder of Oathkeeper Brienne; and last but not least the Mother of Dragons and Freer of Slaves and rightful heir to the Iron Throne Dany.

Them fighting words...;)
 
MacMoney said:
Arya Stark - A tomboy in a time and place where such things were unheard of. Unrealistic, seems to get away with much due to plot devices. Bland as a character and never does anything really interesting.
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I guess I'm wondering just how exciting one should expect a girl of that age to be... I also feel that what Arya witnesses and thusly, what we see through her eyes lends much to the story. She's damn cool, and you know it.

MacMoney said:
Brienne Tarth - Another tomboy though somewhat more believable. Another bland character who isn't involved in anything that's worth mentioning. Her chapters in AFFC were just dull and didn't have much bearing on anything that's happening in the series.
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I'm not sure how Arya is unrealistic and Brienne is less so? Arya is a tomboy, and Brienne is pretty much a full-fledged knight. I'd say that's taking "tomboy" several steps further. I'd like to know what you think of Asha- is she unrealistic? Because in my opinion, Asha is pretending harder than either Arya or Brienne.

MacMoney said:
Samwell Tarly - Yet another bland character who doesn't do much.
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I think Sam will be crucial in the battle against the Others. He's a great source of information for Jon. And... what's all this about "not doing much," anyway? What exactly do you expect these characters to do? Realistically, they're each only one person, and they all do more in each chapter than I fit into a regular week.

MacMoney said:
Daenerys Targaryen - She seems to get her way too easily and the dragons seem too much like plain plot devices for her to get her way. Also, things have gone on for four books already and her doings haven't had much to do with the actual interesting stuff going on in the Seven Kingdoms. Still, I like her much more than the three first mentioned just because she is a Targaryen and very pivotal to the big plot.
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Hmmm.... Okay, Dany's definitely NOT my favorite character. She really doesn't "do much" either, though- not on her own, anyway. As you said, the dragons lend quite a bit to what happens in her chapters. So... if Sam/Arya/Brienne each had a dragon of their own, would what they do in each chapter seem more significant? (I'm really just teasing you here.)

Brienne, Arya, and Sam are just as much victims of circumstance as Cersei or Tywin. They've just dealt with it differently.
 
But Dany has the best bits!!!! In AGOT she provided a break from the monotony of the Seven Kingdoms, and did so with cool domestic plots, lots of sex, death, fighting, babies, witchcraft and, yes dragons. Then came crazy free cities and all their customs and the Unsullied were just 'wow'.

Praise Dany
 
20000 of eunuchs in one place, thats just mind-blowing, where else would you read about such a place
 
KiwiBird said:
20000 of eunuchs in one place, thats just mind-blowing, where else would you read about such a place
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In Belgium! :eek: It is Known:D I kid.
 
All Hail the Queen with violet eyes (and 3 dragons).

And death to Sansa, Cersei and StoneHeart.
 
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