Casting news from the TV series

[The Imp]

Yeah, cheap probably wasn't the right word. Unconvincing or unrealistic, maybe. Everything else looked so good, in comparison Dany looked wrong. As I said, I really hope that it's just a result of only seeing a glimpse.

True, the whole thing was so short, each cut to a scene lasted maybe a second or two. It will be interesting so see longer glimpses as they put out more teaser trailers

 

[Ursa major]

In six months or so, at least some of us will know for sure.

(I'll have to wait for the DVD. )

 

[The Imp]

In six months or so, at least some of us will know for sure.

(I'll have to wait for the DVD. )

There HAS to be a way for you to see it before it comes out on DVD

 

[Ursa major]

Not one that I can guarantee won't involve "cross-subsidising" even more truthful reporting on Fox News.

(It is a far, far better thing I do....)

*cough*






Besides, by then I'll have ADWD to read.

 

[The Imp]

Not one that I can guarantee won't involve "cross-subsidising" even more truthful reporting on Fox News.

(It is a far, far better thing I do....)

*cough*






Besides, by then I'll have ADWD to read.

Fox has ties to HBO, or am i misunderstanding, or maybe not understanding at all?

 

[Ursa major]

BSkyB - which supplies a number of satellite channels in the UK - is part owned by News Corporation, which also owns Fox Broadcasting Company.

BSkyB has bought the HBO back, current and forthcoming catalogue for showing in the UK (and perhaps elsewhere). This deal includes Game of Thrones.


In the UK, News International papers are very anti-EU (not in itself an issue, given that this is a popular view in the UK), but does so from a quite (British) nationalist perspective, which is odd considering its chairman and CEO, Rupert Murdoch, changed his own nationality (from Australian to US Citizen) merely to gain more money and power. (A clear case of do as I say, not as I do.)

 

[The Imp]

BSkyB - which supplies a number of satellite channels in the UK - is part owned by News Corporation, which also owns Fox Broadcasting Company.

BSkyB has bought the HBO back, current and forthcoming catalogue for showing in the UK (and perhaps elsewhere). This deal includes Game of Thrones.


In the UK, News International papers are very anti-EU (not in itself an issue, given that this is a popular view in the UK), but does so from a quite (British) nationalist perspective, which is odd considering its chairman and CEO, Rupert Murdoch, changed his own nationality (from Australian to US Citizen) merely to gain more money and power. (A clear case of do as I say, not as I do.)

Murdoch is scum. We can leave it at that.

When the time comes we can talk about this more. There might be other options for you that won't involve supporfting Murdoch

 

[Mesanna]

Murdoch is scum. We can leave it at that.

When the time comes we can talk about this more. There might be other options for you that won't involve supporfting Murdoch

Agree 100% with your comment about Murdoch. I have Sky TV (in the UK) and it pains me to give him my money, but since cable isn't available where I live, there isn't any other choice. (Sorry for the OT post, but couldn't let some Murdoch-bashing go by without joining in. And yes, I'm sure there are many ways to avoid waiting months to watch GoT, hell, I'll record it onto DVD myself for you!)

 

[The Imp]

Agree 100% with your comment about Murdoch. I have Sky TV (in the UK) and it pains me to give him my money, but since cable isn't available where I live, there isn't any other choice. (Sorry for the OT post, but couldn't let some Murdoch-bashing go by without joining in. And yes, I'm sure there are many ways to avoid waiting months to watch GoT, hell, I'll record it onto DVD myself for you!)

It absolutely kills me that the Fox TV network has had some of my favorite shows, such as NFL Football, Family guy, Fringe, House, etc. I don't pay anything extra to have that channel, so I don't feel that I'm supporting Morloch very much. I certainly wouldn't give him my money, and would seek a creative solution to having to buy his service.

I also apologize for the OT post, and I'll suggest that further communication regarding this topic can happen via PMs.

 

[Eulalia]

There is almost no way not to support uber bad guys these days. I dread paying taxes, too, for that reason. I think the best thing to do is call them out as you are doing. Morloch is all about controlling the narrative of news etc besides making wads of money which he already has, and pushing a political agenda. The worst thing that can happen is that good men are silent.

Morloch is sort of Littlefinger and Tywin combined, don't you think?

 

[The Imp]

There is almost no way not to support uber bad guys these days. I dread paying taxes, too, for that reason. I think the best thing to do is call them out as you are doing. Morloch is all about controlling the narrative of news etc besides making wads of money which he already has, and pushing a political agenda. The worst thing that can happen is that good men are silent.

Morloch is sort of Littlefinger and Tywin combined, don't you think?

I think that's a fair comparison. He has enough greed for both, Littlefinger's integrity (or lack thereof)and Tywin's ruthlessness. What bothers me most about him is how he's been able to so totally influence American politics and affect the future of people he doesn't give a rat's backside about.

Other than that he's a great guy.

 

[No One]

Yeah, cheap probably wasn't the right word. Unconvincing or unrealistic, maybe. Everything else looked so good, in comparison Dany looked wrong. As I said, I really hope that it's just a result of only seeing a glimpse.

Hm, I'm inclined to agree. Putting aside the fact that, imo, Tamzin Merchant more looked the part, there's a worrying "Adventures of Hercules" quality about the shot of Dany (and before anyone points out that that was a pretty good show, I'll just say it's not what ASOIAF should look like. Ye gads!).

That said, I'm struggling more than ever to see the fundamental NEED for a tv series and am debating whether to see it or not (even though I almost certainly will at some point). Maybe I'll just wait to see what you guys make of it.

I think what's most recently brought on my doubts is having read the Watchmen Graphic Novel. Zack Snyder's adaptation, while very good, just doesn't measure up to the brilliance that is the original. Leaves me thinking there was no need for a film, other than, of course, the cash-in.

 

[The Imp]

Hm, I'm inclined to agree. Putting aside the fact that, imo, Tamzin Merchant more looked the part, there's a worrying "Adventures of Hercules" quality about the shot of Dany (and before anyone points out that that was a pretty good show, I'll just say it's not what ASOIAF should look like. Ye gads!).

That said, I'm struggling more than ever to see the fundamental NEED for a tv series and am debating whether to see it or not (even though I almost certainly will at some point). Maybe I'll just wait to see what you guys make of it.

I think what's most recently brought on my doubts is having read the Watchmen Graphic Novel. Zack Snyder's adaptation, while very good, just doesn't measure up to the brilliance that is the original. Leaves me thinking there was no need for a film, other than, of course, the cash-in.

Boardwalk Empire is starting this Sunday.

from Wikipedia

Boardwalk Empire is an upcoming American television series from premium cable network HBO, set in Atlantic City, New Jersey during the Prohibition era. Starring Steve Buscemi, the show is adapted from Nelson Johnson's book, Boardwalk Empire: The Birth, High Times, and Corruption of Atlantic City by Emmy award-winning screenwriter and producer Terence Winter of The Sopranos.[1]

Another show starting this Friday on the SciFy channel is Haven, apparently based on a Stephen King book called The Colorado kid, which i know nothing about

The second season of Caprica is starting october 5th, and I suspect that ScyFy channel will run the first season again before that air date.

The third season of Fringe starts September 23rd, unfortunately on Fox, but i watch it anyway. It's a great show that has gotten better.

The Event has been getting a lot of hype, it premieres this Monday on NBC

The third season of True Blood just ended, and I have to admit that i've been hooked by that show. I highly recommend it.

Criminal Minds is a great show as well

 

[soulsinging]

I think what's most recently brought on my doubts is having read the Watchmen Graphic Novel. Zack Snyder's adaptation, while very good, just doesn't measure up to the brilliance that is the original. Leaves me thinking there was no need for a film, other than, of course, the cash-in.

I think there's a world of difference between film adaptations for tv and for movies. It's difficult to get all the nuance of a book like ASOIAF or Watchmen into a movie that's very limited in time (2 hours or so, maybe 3). Even if you do it as a trilogy (LOTR), you have to cut a lot of things to make it fit.

However, HBO has done a really remarkable job producing shows similar to this. I think a better comparison than Watchmen would be to check out a show called the Wire, which HBO produced and is easily the greatest tv achievement in American history. It shows that if you have time, patience, and quality writers (I don't know who's doing the writing for Thrones byt got the impression they were all respectable, the Wire was penned by excellent hard-boiled authors like Dennis Lehane and Richard Price), you can do a quality show with many characters and a slowly unfolding dramatic plot that ebbs and flows without sacrificing depth. Is it going to be as good as the books? Probably not, that's rarely the case. But it could be very good.

As to Murdoch, I hate Foxnews, but his company did also give us Firefly and Arrested Development... of course, both were quickly cancelled so maybe he truly is evil!

 

[No One]

Imp - you've befuddled me! Although the tenuous Sopranos link allows me to point out four seasons completed - all excellent.

Soulsinging - you make a good point with regard to adaptations into TV or film. I guess the tendency is that films don't have the time (even at 2hours 40 mins, as in Watchmen) while tv shows don't have the budget. No doubt ASOIAF is better suited to the span of a tv series, but then the source material is so vast and so full of nuances, I imagine the cutbacks, however subtle, will still be necessary. Besides that, of course, it's just a different medium altogether, tv or film, and - I'll always maintain - an inferior one.

I've heard a lot of good things about the Wire though and I'm long beyond doubt when it comes to HBO as a production company. As far as ASOIAF goes, there's a hell of a lot of positive signs, HBO being one of them, the cast another. As you say, they may well do a very good job with it, but the books (I'm sure we'd all agree) are not very good - they're great.

It's not my intent to be negative about the series - it's more related to the whole genre of adaptations. Ho-hum.

And sorry for being somewhat OT.

 

[Ursa major]

The Wire, as well as being a marvellous series in itself, is a good indicator of how a shades-of-grey interlocking set of tales can be put on the TV screen: the good guys were not (always) as good as you'd hope; most of the bad guys were not (always) as bad as you'd fear (or, at least, had their own rules and morals). It was easy to root for characters from any and every side in certain circumstances, while at the same time not muddying one's own sense of morality. Best of all, the characters were rarely ciphers, but generally well-rounded.

It can be done. Whether Game of Thrones will do it is yet to be seen, but I remain hopeful.

 

[The Imp]

Just before Boardwalk Empire last night HBO did a clip of Ned swinging Ice and beheading Gared. I got a chill watching it. It gave me goosebumps, maybe becuase it's becoming real.

 

[Hilarious Joke]

I only just saw the production video and raven trailer for the first time on the HBO website. So awesome! Very excited.

 

[TK-421]

The Production video at HBO.COM is great. Well worth watching and even features GRRM himself.

 

[The Imp]

The Production video at HBO.COM is great. Well worth watching and even features GRRM himself.

I couldn't find anything but the trailer. COuld you link it please?