GOT discussion for aSoIaF readers (SPOILERS)

[woodsman]

I'm talking about in the books. I must be wrong then! No idea what I'm thinking of. Don't worry, no Sam being eaten by ravens in the TV show!

I think there maybe something further down the road - when he's fleeing Crastor's or similar and nearly freezes to death, a crow wakes him up? I have vague rellocetions of something along those lines. Not sure though

 

[Wiggum]

Sam got his groove back in Feast.

Brown chicken brown cow, awww yeah.

 

[fontdebouf]

Does anyone get the feeling that Roz is going to take the place of Shae? Sorry about the spelling there. Why else would she be featured?

 

[Wiggum]

Hadn't thought about it...but it makes good sense now that I do.

 

[Ursa major]

If you look at the full cast list on imdb, you'll see that Shae is in there, and she's not being played by the same actress as Ros.

 

[Culhwch]

Had considered that, but as the bear said, I recalled that Shae had been cast. I have no idea what Roz's role is going to be.....

 

[Ursa major]

Oddly enough, the thought that Ros might morph into Shae occurred to me when I read that she was heading south (as it were), which is why I checked on imdb.

I may have seen her casting being mentioned on WiC, but if I did, I'd forgotten.

 

[Wybren]

Just watching episode seven at the mo, does Jaime say 'I could care less'? At the start there? I hate that!

Spoilers in case you haven't seen ep 7 yet:
And I really didn't like the scene between Roz and that other woman with Littlefinger perving over them. Goes on for waaaaaaaay too long. I mean, it's ridiculous. But I bet it won't get half the fuss that the Renly/Loras scene did.

And spoilers allowed in this thread so nobody start wailing: does Sam die? I have a vague recollection of that. I hope not, I like him! "Can you sing me a song, Pyp?" "I always wanted to be a wizard." Bless.

Loved Ghost doing a Vincent from Lost.

There's so much I don't remember from the books though. Which is good, because stuff in the episodes still surprises me. Like Littlefinger at the end of ep 7.

I watched episode 7 today and I have to agree with you on the whole Littlefinger and the whores scene, it was verging on the over done side, especially as that never happened in the books, but then I suppose they needed a way to convey the thing with Littlefinger still loving Cat And while the books are still pretty fresh in my mind, having only read them for the first time last year, Littlefinger at the end of ep 7 was still surprising.

 

[Mouse]

Yay, Wybren! I'm glad I'm not the only one who's seen it, I was starting to think I had no willpower.

 

[svalbard]

Just finished watching episode 7. There is so much to like about it and I can see the Dany story starting to hook. Thinking about it, the book was very much the same. It took a while for me to get into her story.

Aidan Gillan is playing a blinder as Littlefinger and his add on scene at the start of the episode is fantastic as it really puts the flesh on the bone of his character.

It also struck me about Roz taking the place of Shae.

 

[the smiling weirwood]

I haven't seen the show yet, because I want to watch the whole first season together, but something has struck me about the comments. Apparently there's a Theon sex scene, yes? Why is it then that no one has been ragging on that for being unnecessary and not that important and detracting from the story and revolting like they have been the Loras and Renly scene?

If you didn't like it because it had two guys in it, you should just come out and say that you're uncomfortable with homoerotic material rather than masquerade your dislike as actual criticism.

 

[Wiggum]

People have complained about Roz and the show's need to insert her body parts into scenes.

It's in the TV forum.

The main problem people have with the Renly/Loras scene is that it robbed the story of all the subtlety that the relationship had in the book.

 

[Mouse]

Apparently there's a Theon sex scene, yes? Why is it then that no one has been ragging on that for being unnecessary and not that important and detracting from the story and revolting like they have been the Loras and Renly scene?

Um, I've mentioned the Theon scene. Actually, I've said pretty much the same as what you've said here. It does irritate me that the Loras/Renly scene gets more negativity than the Theon scene, especially when, in my opinion, the Loras/Renly scene wasn't even a sex scene. We saw nothing. My bit I've flagged as a spoiler on the other page also mentions something else you might be interested in... [two women getting it on - far more graphic than Loras/Renly and yet I doubt it'll get the same response]

Plus, I doubt we'll see another 'sex' scene between Loras/Renly. I don't understand people's problems with it at all - I've tried to understand, but I don't get it. To me, a person's sex is irrelevant.

 

[Brian G Turner]

Apparently there's a Theon sex scene, yes? Why is it then that no one has been ragging on that for being unnecessary and not that important and detracting from the story and revolting like they have been the Loras and Renly scene?

People have been saying most of the sex scenes are unnecessary and done for sensationalist reasons.

Though I can only imagine during the Loras and Renly scene, that the camera crew were in hysterics as the slurping noises were delivered.

 

[Conor]

I was mostly just surprised with the scene because I didnt pick it up in the book, not because of subject matter.They really could have been more subtle with most if not all of the sex scenes.

 

[the smiling weirwood]

The main problem people have with the Renly/Loras scene is that it robbed the story of all the subtlety that the relationship had in the book.

A subtlety they apparently didn't grasp in the first place, judging from other threads in the forum.

 

[Lofwyr]

A subtlety they apparently didn't grasp in the first place, judging from other threads in the forum.

This makes it reasonable to go from subtle to slapping us in the face with it? It's like explaining a good joke. All the humor is lost, it just becomes a collection of words.

Plus, the Loras/Renly scene doddered on about 2-3 times as long it should have gone. The important information the scene was conveying was done quickly...other stuff was a waste of time. The Theon/Roz scene was 1/4 the length of the Loras/Renly scene...it didn't seem to steal time from other, much more important scenes.

If they have some overly graphic, woman on woman sex scene in future episodes which serve to provide no useful information I will have similar complaints towards it.

 

[the smiling weirwood]

This makes it reasonable to go from subtle to slapping us in the face with it?

See, you're making it sound as if you were assaulted by it. Out of so many minutes, most of them were spent just shaving and talking about other characters, which during my listen, seemed to be doing some valuable characterization. Of the remainder, well, it is HBO.

It wasn't as if there was this huge lengthy interlude of homoerotica inserted for the sole purpose of driving up ratings or to be edgy.

I get the feeling that what some people are really saying is, "Oh yeah, why they'd waste time on those fags? I didn't even get that from the books! HBO must have stuck it in there! Such a waste...they could have been showing us some tits."

 

[Wiggum]

And what I'm saying is that there has been just as much complaint about the other sex scenes as there has been about this one.

Read all the threads if you haven't already.

I've heard complaints about Dany and Drogo, Jaime and Cersie, Loras and Renly, Roz tossing a shot of the beaver, between What's Her Name and Viserys......

Every single one.

Outside of Tyrion in the whorehouse in Winterfell, because..........well, it was just plain hilarious.

Loras and Renly isn't being singled out.

 

[hadd]

TSW I can see you like calling people homophobes and stirring a pointless argument here but the fact is the Theon sex scene was as much ranted about, by me and by others.
You just didn't bother to read it and made your conclusions based on a few posts you actually read.

You're seeing the devil where it isn't right now. No-one at this subforum has been anti-homosexuals so stop trying to stir that pot.

Thank you.