GOT discussion for aSoIaF readers (SPOILERS)

Wish I had more time to talk-

I loved the opening scene, but was hoping to see the Crow talk. One of my favorite lines was "Say do you have any corn?" I know a different dream..the one where Brans dreams about falling.

Hated Viscery's bathtub scene!! I think they could have conveyed the info another way?

Should be good to see Araya hunting cats and finding the dragon skulls!:)

AAAAGH MY EYES haha. Every time I see the names misspelled I feel like i'm getting stabbed with a tiny tiny needle... :D

And I agree with Imp, for the ones who have read the book the Viserys scene was out of context but it did give some useful information for the ones who haven't read the series. Also I think Harry Lloyd is doing a brilliant job with the character. Only thing I would change is give the Targaryen twins purple/violet contact lenses haha.

Also was lovely to finally see Ghost again, though that scene felt a bit too hurried...
 
The 3-eyed crow was a great opening. Too bad Bran wasn't flying like he did in his first dream when he meets the crow, but he was walking in his dream.
 
Love that crow!

Thanks Imp, for a tennis match!

It would be pretty easy for them to make Jaime a full out villain, if they wanted. As you say, there is lots of material.

This would do it though:

He shrugs and smirks at Cersei before he gives Bran the heave ho.
He is much more seductive with Cersei.
He laughs in Ned's face during the Aerys speech.
He raises an arch eyebrow (seen to think "I'm banging your wife, whatever") while Robert is chewing him out.
Robert acts like more of a victim of circumstance and is not contrasted with Jaime.
Jaime swaggers more about his first kill.
He struts more, preens, runs his fingers through his hair, looks in mirrors, and stands in more insolent postures.
He and Cersei are more arrogant about their affair.

Yes, the Jory thing will put another black mark on his leger.

Some Jedi knight makes me add an "a" to Viserys. Don't all the Targs have ae?

Yes, I think someone who has to put up with bosses and experiences with corporate America, such as my husband, is more inclined, given the way Jaime is portrayed, to give him a small break.

I had the experience, in my tender days, of being thrown in a dungeon, chained to a wall and being force fed passages of The Hitchhikers Guide, Terry Pratchett, and The Parrot Sketch (which I used to love). Thus, I no longer try to insist that my partner read a book, no matter how much I like it. (yah, I know, 42, 42)But, I am very glad that my husband likes the TV series. It's fun.
 
I also loved the 3 eyed crow, glad he was finally put in. Hopefully we'll see more of him soon.

I was not a fan of the added Viserys scene either. It felt a little long and drawn out.

I was glad to see Ghost finally, but I felt like if I hadn't read the books, I would be wondering what a white wolf was doing there. There was no reference that it was Ghost, Jon's direwolf, etc. I know its Ghost, but what about those viewers who haven't read the books? I'm really enjoying the scene's at the Night's Watch other than that, they've done a great job there.

The thing that disappointed me the most was having Littlefinger tell Sandor's tale of how his face got burned. That could have been a great way to give Sandor some more face time in the show, and I think it could have been more powerful delivered by Sandor.

Overrall this was my favorite episode so far. At the end of the show my husband said 'Just when it was getting good, now I have to wait another week.' :) We're both eagerly awaiting the next installment.
 
Is it just me or is Bean playing Ned with this befuddled look (after many scenes) that one would excpet to see on the face of an exceptionally dullwitted onlooker at a David Blaine magic show? I guess they are trying to show that Ned is in over his head, but I'm almost half expecting to see a thought bubble over hius head one day that will say something like "That didn't FEEL like a Littlefinger" :D
 
Too bad we never really had the constant description of Ned's facial expressions from GRRM in the book to compare whether the Ned we are seeing on GOT would have the same facial expressions as intended. Sorry, but is this really an issue?

Personally, I think Bean's portrayal conveys the right sentiments that the character would be experiencing in the different chapters of the book. Granted, he's no Dinklage.
 
Yes, why not, Ned is "the quiet wolf", out of his depth in most ways. He doesn't get a chance to led an army, he is trying to be honorable, and the Gods have turned on him. (with multiple human betrayals)
 
Too bad we never really had the constant description of Ned's facial expressions from GRRM in the book to compare whether the Ned we are seeing on GOT would have the same facial expressions as intended. Sorry, but is this really an issue?

Personally, I think Bean's portrayal conveys the right sentiments that the character would be experiencing in the different chapters of the book. Granted, he's no Dinklage.

It's not an issue, it's just a little annoying that Ned is seemingly clueless even when it comes to knowing his own daughters. I thought the scene with the doll was unnecessary and left Ned looking like an idiot. The scene with Arya was kind of sad, her saying "that's not me". Maybe I'm just using what I already know to make me feel worse for Ned than i should at this point in the story, but as we all know, it's going downhill fast from here on in.

Unless my crackpot theory is correct (attempting to lure Boaz out of hiding)
 
I thought the scene with the doll was unnecessary and left Ned looking like an idiot. The scene with Arya was kind of sad, her saying "that's not me".

I actually thought it was in the book?? Either way, it conveys two points: 1. that his daughters are growing up, and therefore wanting their own way of life, and 2. that Sansa is moving away from the Stark family in mind (as symbolised by the death of Lady - and to be honest the only thing that keeps her alive). With Arya, being a tomboy in a world of lords and ladies is bound to throw off any lord.

However, there are various points in the ASoFaI series which underline children wanting something different to their parents, either for good or ban - Joffrey taking command over Ned's sentence, Samwell being told to take the black because he was a disappointment, etc.

The scenes with Ned and his daughters make him the most human character - easy to relate to when you're a parent with growing children. :)
 
The scenes with Ned and his daughters make him the most human character - easy to relate to when you're a parent with growing children. :)

I agree 100% with that fact having two children myself. For me, Sam always seemed the most real and human.
 
Funnily enough, as soon as we saw Sam, I immediately thought of him as a young GRRM. Then again, I supposed many of GRRM's characters are projections of different exaggerated parts of his personality.
 
Funnily enough, as soon as we saw Sam, I immediately thought of him as a young GRRM. Then again, I supposed many of GRRM's characters are projections of different exaggerated parts of his personality.

I thought the same thing about Sam. I was thinking of the story GRRM tells of (in the recent Abercrombie interview) when he was a boy and wrote his first story about the two small pet turtles that he had, each living in their own little plastic enclosure, complete with water, gravel and a little fake palm tree. I had turtles like that when i was a kid as well. I guess is was in fashion back then.

Also, while Sam's back story isn't told until much later in the books, I thought they made a great decision to have Sam explain how his father was going to have hiom hacve a "hunting accident" if he didn't take the Black. Not the first hunting accident the series has mentioned either. Nice forshadowing :)
 
Ok, I am really looking forward to seeing the dragons, you know they will have to use special effects unless they tape some wings on a few big lizards.:D
 
Renley and Ser Loras...gay??? Lovers??:eek::eek:
Did I miss something from the books???
All I recall is Jaime thinking Loras was possibly boffing his sister like he had always been doing, but boffing Renly??
This seems to be quite a detour.
 
Renley and Ser Loras...gay??? Lovers??:eek::eek:
Did I miss something from the books???
All I recall is Jaime thinking Loras was possibly boffing his sister like he had always been doing, but boffing Renly??
This seems to be quite a detour.

Loras (note the anagram for Orals) used to help Renly "pray" They were apparemtly prayed for Don't Ask Don't Tell to be repealled :D
 
Well, the added scenes in episode 5 where awesome and really went to foreshadow events and develop the characters:

1) Theon's encounter with Roz explains to viewers his status and show his own pettiness and insecurities. And we got brief male full frontal!!
2) Loras' and Renly's scene make their relationship "in your face (or Loras')" and give a good segway as to Renly's predicament as 4th in line but that people generally like him and would follow him unlike Joff and Stannis
3) The Littlefinger and Varys scene in the throne room was awesome dialogue between the two schemers.

The tournament was well ended. The Clegane brothers hacking at each other was excellent.

The Eyrie was just like I pictured. I loved the sky cells. Lysa is well played as is little Robert.

The scene in the dungeon was good.

I loved the swordfight between Ned and Jaime.
 
Conor, I missed it in the books too. Only found out when I read it on here a while back (a few years back actually I think!).

I so wish Renly was attractive, that scene would've been so hot. :( Loras is super pretty though, which is good.

I thought the violence was a bit much. I don't remember there being that much in the books (well, I kinda do)! That, or I'm going soft in my old age. The horse thing = yuck. Jory = yuck. Tyrion smashing the dude's face in = yuck.

Lysa's boy (I forget his name, sorry!) with the whole milk thing = super yuck. I so hope that was a fake booby!

Bronn actually looked okay. That's all.
 

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