Star Trek: Discovery - new series in 2017

@BAYLOR , I just had another look. You do get a look at a few computer screens, but none look more advanced than what we have today!

Even the space suits, save missing the backpacks, look no more advanced than today's!
 
That video is still blocked for me, but it has been widely copied as I expected and I watched it on Twitter. As I said, absolutely pointless to block it.

I do now have some small nits, one obvious and not so big, the other small but important to me.

Cathbad said:
HOW did it look more advanced? You saw no technology!
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Cathbad said:
So a WALL looked more advanced??
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You two need to get a room!

You should also look at the post @Brian G Turner made a few weeks back about how the design and shape of the ship's corridors changed over series and what that told you about the function of the ship. It also gives the impression of advancing technology, without actually very much change in technology.

My complaints are different:
  1. This first is obvious, but underlies why I think making a sequel is and was a bad idea. They are using the knobbly, "southern" Klingons rather than the northern Klingons (in reference to the joke Roddenberry made for the difference.) Now they had no real alternative but to do that. Why are two different kinds of Klingons around at the same time? DS9 Trials and Tribbleations also made it into a joke, but in Enterprise there was an explanation made (very poorly) about genetic experimentation. So, do we now just forget Enterprise ever happened? I know some fans would like that, but you can't. It is canon and it is still being shown weekly on TV.
  2. Secondly, the USS Enterprise symbol shown at the very end is the symbol for the starship Enterprise. Why is it being used for the USS Discovery? :mad: Each starship had its own unique insignia - a very distinctive, slightly asymmetrical, arrowhead-shaped pennant used as an identifying emblem on starship hulls, installations and uniforms. Only later did Starfleet adopt the symbol for the entire fleet. You can clearly see this in the original series, where, for example, Captain Decker of the USS Constitution has a different shirt symbol, or during Spock's court martial. More here: Starfleet insignia BTW Abram's films don't count for anything as they are, at most an alternative universe, and at least, not even Star Trek.
Stop Retconning Star Trek history! :mad:

I'd say that if the writers are either unaware or don't care about 2 then they are very likely to ride roughshod over the rest of the canon too.
 
Dave said:
  1. Secondly, the USS Enterprise symbol shown at the very end is the symbol for the starship Enterprise. Why is it being used for the USS Discovery? :mad: Each starship had its own unique insignia - a very distinctive, slightly asymmetrical, arrowhead-shaped pennant used as an identifying emblem on starship hulls, installations and uniforms. Only later did Starfleet adopt the symbol for the entire fleet. You can clearly see this in the original series, where, for example, Captain Decker of the USS Constitution has a different shirt symbol, or during Spock's court martial. More here: Starfleet insignia BTW Abram's films don't count for anything as they are, at most an alternative universe, and at least, not even Star Trek.
Stop Retconning Star Trek history! :mad:
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@Dave are you talking about this symbol?
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Because I think I did see different insignia on their chests. I think the symbol for the Enterprise is just so well known to Trek that it would help market the show and would only really tick off people who notice that type of thing.
 
Cathbad said:
In the trailer I saw, there were two characters in the desert. One had what appeared to be a flip-type communicator and a tricorder on her waist but neither used any technology (save for the one calling to be beamed up).

We got only brief looks at the ship (but still very cool), and a brief look at what I assume was the bridge - but we saw no technology there.

Now I have no doubt the show will appear more advanced; but that's because it doesn't have to be as cheesy as TOS (who used items like exotic salt shakers). That's unavoidable.
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Yeah I don't mind better graphics for Trek, and this one looks really well made. Especially when compared to The Good Fight, CBS All Access' other show. I actually don't care for people who think trek has to go back to being retro like in TOS. There are so much better things that we can and should do now that TV and Technology has advanced so much. I welcome re-imagining.
 
I just saw the trailer on twitter. I must have missed it at first, but the series is based just ten years before the Enterprise and Kirk!

In other words, the technology will be just about the same (I seem to recall there was an advancement in teleporter technology just before the Enterprise?).
 
Cathbad said:
I just saw the trailer on twitter. I must have missed it at first, but the series is based just ten years before the Enterprise and Kirk!

In other words, the technology will be just about the same (I seem to recall there was an advancement in teleporter technology just before the Enterprise?).
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I think I have a working theory as to why it looks more advanced then TOS. A major continuum wide disaster(Year in Hell Voyager ) struck the galaxy 10 years later causing the federation and all the civilizations to loose alot of technology , It may also explain why the Klingons look different. :whistle:
 
Totally in agreement with @Phyrebrat

All I wanted was a new Trek to boldly go where no Trek has gone before. What we may end up with is an Enterprise level Trek wreckage that has boldly sort of already done a prequel which all ended in a holographic room on the Enterprise...

To say I am not impressed with the setting is an understatement.

My idea for the next Trek was far better, just sayin'.

However, much like Dave I will give this a chance and if I like it then all good, I even liked some of the early Enterprise = before it went all retcon.
 
I should admit that I am not well-versed in Trek lore but I just wish they'd do something with Voyager or DS9 instead of bloody Picard and Kirk.

I watched the first five episodes of Enterprise and thoroughly enjoyed them but then things happened in my life - career etc - and I no longer got the opportunity to catch it. I've always fancied finishing it - the only gripe I had was the song.

pH
 
Phyrebrat said:
I watched the first five episodes of Enterprise and thoroughly enjoyed them but then things happened in my life - career etc - and I no longer got the opportunity to catch it. I've always fancied finishing it...
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Seriously?

A quick Google shows Enterprise is currently on Pick TV and Virgin 1. Some Star Trek series is practically always on some channel. It is hard to miss it. I often just play "guess the episode" (However, I'm not that good with the newer series.) ;)
 
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