Pure Speculation RE; A Song of Ice and Fire.

[WadeK]

My guess is that Cersei will be saved by the newly-unveiled Gregorstein. I'm eager to see if Martin can pull this off without it being utterly cheesy ("GREGOR SMASH!").

LOL! Then the Gregorstein can marry undead Catelyn! They can then hook up with the wights and others, defeat stannis, find Robb (wolfhead and all), resurrect him, and plunge the seven kingdoms into the final darkness of a neverending winter.

Or, err, maybe not.

 

[Boaz]

his regular hand can perform the fun part of the strangulation.

I don't know what to say.

 

[YOSSARIAN]

Strangulation=not fun.

Strangling Cersei=fun as 1,000,000 barrels of monkeys.

 

[Raven]

Actually, Jaime does have two hands. His golden hand can be placed on one side on Cersei's neck for support while his regular hand can perform the fun part of the strangulation. THEREFORE, this theory has been un-ruined.

Ah, but the prophecy says the valonqar will "wrap" his hands around Cersei's neck, something Jaime's golden hand cannot do. So the theory has been re-ruined.

 

[Dolorous Edd]

Magic is re-awakening in Westeros, so jaime will find some hedge witch who will "Abra Cadabra!" his golden hand - making it pliable and hooked up to his nervous system. perhaps.

 

[the smiling weirwood]

Yay for Raven and re-ruination!

 

[the smiling weirwood]

Is that a word? Oh well, it is now.

 

[Trey Greyjoy]

Ah, but the prophecy says the valonqar will "wrap" his hands around Cersei's neck, something Jaime's golden hand cannot do. So the theory has been re-ruined.

Unless the return of magic to the land results somehow in his golden hand coming to life.


This is actually a theory/prediction of a friend of mine so I thought I would throw it in.

 

[YOSSARIAN]

Unless the return of magic to the land results somehow in his golden hand coming to life.


This is actually a theory/prediction of a friend of mine so I thought I would throw it in.

The theory is now re-unruined.

 

[the smiling weirwood]

That would require magical runes or spells or cantrips or what have you to be cast on the hand, that would then be activated by the return of magic. I don't see random inanimate objects becoming animate without a reason.

The theory now depends on unknown variables and is therefore a hypothesis.

 

[Dolorous Edd]

Unless the return of magic to the land results somehow in his golden hand coming to life.


This is actually a theory/prediction of a friend of mine so I thought I would throw it in.

Pffft. Blatantly stealing my theory of the previous page! THIEF!!!!!

 

[Trey Greyjoy]

Pffft. Blatantly stealing my theory of the previous page! THIEF!!!!!

LOL!

If I had only clicked back one page.................

 

[Trey Greyjoy]

That would require magical runes or spells or cantrips or what have you to be cast on the hand, that would then be activated by the return of magic. I don't see random inanimate objects becoming animate without a reason.

The theory now depends on unknown variables and is therefore a hypothesis.

Magic doesnt need a reason. It is what it is and does what it does.
Jaime might well sprout wings and fly.

 

[the smiling weirwood]

Jaime might well sprout wings and fly.

Whatever! That's Bran!

 

[Boaz]

I've had a thought concerning the Lannisters.

Martin likes to use character actions and emotions as recurring themes. Past events foreshadow future events. For example, Ned promised Lyanna something on her deathbed and that promise cost him a lot... then Ned promised Robert something on his deathbed and it cost him everything. Another example is the way Tyrion gave his love to Tysha, a girl far below him, when he knew he should not do it and he and his father betrayed her... then Tyrion gave his love to Shae, a woman far below him, and she and his father betrayed him.

The thought about Jaime is this...

Jaime is the Kingslayer. He commited regicide to save tens of thousands of people from Aery's murderous insanity. He has commited heinous acts of incest and the attempted murder of a child, but he is trying to find redemption.

Tyrion was found guilty of murdering Joffrey (sharing his brother's title of Kingslayer) and then killed their father and earning himself the title Kinslayer. As Tyrion followed Jaime, will Jaime now follow Tyrion?

Cersei has developed some paranoia. She is now torturing her enemies. She kidnaps those who threaten her. She puts out bounties, both public and private, on those she hates. She is sounding more and more like Aerys II.

Is all this foreshadowing that Jaime will again kill the King? Is this foreshadowing that Jaime will kill his kin?

Will Cersei threaten to blow up King's Landing? She's already burnt the Tower of the Hand.

Will Jaime be forced to kill Cersei to protect innocent people?

Martin likes to hide the truth in plain sight, sort of like Shyamalan in The Sixth Sense.

 

[Funky Cthulu]

I've had a thought concerning the Lannisters.

Martin likes to use character actions and emotions as recurring themes. Past events foreshadow future events. For example, Ned promised Lyanna something on her deathbed and that promise cost him a lot... then Ned promised Robert something on his deathbed and it cost him everything. Another example is the way Tyrion gave his love to Tysha, a girl far below him, when he knew he should not do it and he and his father betrayed her... then Tyrion gave his love to Shae, a woman far below him, and she and his father betrayed him.

The thought about Jaime is this...

Jaime is the Kingslayer. He commited regicide to save tens of thousands of people from Aery's murderous insanity. He has commited heinous acts of incest and the attempted murder of a child, but he is trying to find redemption.

Tyrion was found guilty of murdering Joffrey (sharing his brother's title of Kingslayer) and then killed their father and earning himself the title Kinslayer. As Tyrion followed Jaime, will Jaime now follow Tyrion?

Cersei has developed some paranoia. She is now torturing her enemies. She kidnaps those who threaten her. She puts out bounties, both public and private, on those she hates. She is sounding more and more like Aerys II.

Is all this foreshadowing that Jaime will again kill the King? Is this foreshadowing that Jaime will kill his kin?

Will Cersei threaten to blow up King's Landing? She's already burnt the Tower of the Hand.

Will Jaime be forced to kill Cersei to protect innocent people?

Martin likes to hide the truth in plain sight, sort of like Shyamalan in The Sixth Sense.

Totally! Thats what I've been wondering too - it should make for a tragic scene, Jaime destroys Cersei whilst weeping with grief.
Although and I'm ashamed to admit this - it reminds me of the scene in James Bond "Goldeneye" with the femme fatale love interest:
"You can't shoot me - you'd miss me, James"

*Bang*!

"I never miss".

And yes - I can totally see Cersei pursuing a scorched earth policy. Great post, Boaz

 

[Aegon the Unworthy]

Excellent ideas Boaz, this dovetails nicely with the thought that Jaime is heading back to Kings Landing to tell Cersei to go bugger herself.

And if you want to draw a few more parellels, isnt Dany finding out that ruling people is nowhere near as easy as it looks especially if you try to be just. (Similar in nature to Roberts laments to Edd in Winterfell) So she brings the dragons to KL and then completes Roberts cycle. Of course that would point to her killing Jaime (as Robert killed Rhaegar). But I could envision a scenario where Jaime throttles Cersei as the Dragons are coming (in the same vein as the killing of Aerys) and then attempts something ridiculously heroic in defense of the people before things settle down. Yeah I could see that....Or Jaime kills Cersei then sues for peace because she is going to get them all killed by promising to wage war on Danys host. Then offers the crown to Dany in a fit of self-sacrifice, fully expecting to being eaten.

Someone say "You know nothing Aegon", so I can go back to work.

 

[the smiling weirwood]

******silence******

 

[Boaz]

I think we'd all (well, at least I had) thought before that Jaime might kill Cersei, but that he'd do it out of anger, revenge, or jealousy. The idea that he might do it to stop her from going postal on the whole country would be a nice twist.

 

[the smiling weirwood]

My silence was meant to be encouraging you know. A nice idea.