The End of Time (pts 1&2): Final DT episodes

[High Eight]

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I did like the whole thing with Cribbins and the chamber - ring of truth about it and Tennant played it right - disgusted then resigned to it.

I think that was supposed to be a subversion of Spock's death in Wrath of Khan. RTD does these "look I really really am SF literate" things from time to time. There were a few tonight - finding Cap'n Jack boozing in something that resembled the Draco Tavern was another.

 

[High Eight]

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Still following #drwho on Twitter - I haven't seen so many crying females since Stephen Gately came out.

How many squeeeing fangirls at 'His name is Alonso'?

 

[tangaloomababe]

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Originally posted by riever

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Mr T. has done a good job, although my fav. episode is 'Blink' in which he's semi-absent. However I thought Eccleston had the capacity to be much more hard-edged than any other Doctor, and its a shame they couldn't keep him.

I agreee with you riever, I think Christopher Eccelston had great potential and it was a shame he only did the one season as the doctor. As to the last two episodes I have seen the first and will be watching the second one tonight.
Honestly I think its time for a change, Tennant in my opinion has been lacking a little in the last few specials. Planet of the Dead was nothing special, whilst Waters of Mars was an improvement it hasn't been the same quality as previous episodes of the Doctor.
Don't get me worng though I have still found them watchable but I think its time for a change in both Doctor and writer. Bring on Matt Smith I say!

 

[Interference]

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Sorry, guys, I just don't see Smith being hard-edged and convincing. Right up to the last shot I was still hoping it had all been a big joke to stop us speculating and to keep the paparazzi away.

Btw, is anyone going to update the strapline at the top of this page?

 

[Harry Kilmer]

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How many squeeeing fangirls at 'His name is Alonso'?

Just the one that I can see. More of a squiffer then a squeer. I shouldn't judge, theres plenty of squeeing fanboys too - hell, I shed a squee or two over Eccelston.

And another thing that occurs - if the Timelords were so evil, why did Sarah Jane have to talk the Doctor out of siding with the baddies in order to ressurect them?

 

[tangaloomababe]

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Interference Whilst I agree Smith may not be hard edged, its hard to guage how convincing he will be yet, it probably takes a couple of episodes to get into your character. There will be many Tennant fans who will take some convincing as there would have been Tom Baker fans who were disappointed when he decided to leave. Lets just hope we don't get years of bad doctors like we did after Tom Baker stepped down.

 

[Interference]

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So basically what you're saying, Tanga, is that I really oughtn't make a judgement after eight lines. Well, okay ... since it comes from you, maybe I'll take your suggestion on board

Happy New Year, btw

 

[dustinzgirl]

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I have not watched the second half yet.

The ending of the first half when the time lords came back was.....well....all kinds of full of lamesauce. Seriously. Now the doctor has no reason for living, as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Interference]

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Well, at the rate he's going through regenerations .... 900 years old and he's used up eleven of them in just the last 40 years? Not good. My cats have a better average.

 

[Harry Kilmer]

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I have not watched the second half yet.

The ending of the first half when the time lords came back was.....well....all kinds of full of lamesauce. Seriously. Now the doctor has no reason for living, as far as I'm concerned.

Just as well, he's about to cop it

 

[Vladd67]

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Well, at the rate he's going through regenerations .... 900 years old and he's used up eleven of them in just the last 40 years? Not good. My cats have a better average.

Funny I seem to remember Tom Baker saying he was just over 500 years old.

 

[Teresa Edgerton]

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Funny I seem to remember Tom Baker saying he was just over 500 years old.

Eccleston, who acted like he was recently regenerated, said something about being 900 years old. Maybe his predecessor lived several centuries between the TV movie and the first episode of the new series.

 

[tangaloomababe]

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Probably Interference. I recall when David Tennant first took over from Eccelston and I was't overly excited by the change but then he grew on you after a couple of episodes.
I can't fully comment yet because I havn't seen part two, so I don't know the why's and wherefors of how the Time Lords have returned. I will be watching tonight.

 

[Interference]

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Funny I seem to remember Tom Baker saying he was just over 500 years old.

You mean there's 400 years of Sylvester McCoy we haven't seen yet? Oh, goody

 

[Foxbat]

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Thought the finale was ok. Some good bits, some bad bits.

Too much tugging at the heart strings near the end. Thought there was very little difference between Tennant the Doc and Tennant Prince of Denmark.....both needed to be a bit more subtle.

Still, my hat off to the writers for at least attempting to give the Doc an emotional 3rd dimension.

The new Doc's first appearance gave me the impression that there will be lots of running around and talking really fast. Normal service, it seems, will be resumed shortly

 

[PTeppic]

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One thing not explained was the possessed Seer/Prophet Woman Time Lord who turned out to be the same one who had been stalking Wilf. When Wilf asked who she was, the Doctor turned and looked at Donna but didn't actually answer him.

Two people at once there, I think? The Seer was the painted dotty one, whereas the woman who kept speaking to Wilf seemed to be one of the two who voted against Rasillon. In a couple of scenes they were "kept" on the platform beside him (the Star Wars imperial senate scenes[!]) with their hands on the faces (referred to as weeping angels). As such, they were transported to the Naismith Mansion with him; a bit silly, really, the only two who opposed him were brought, with all those who supported him left on Gallifrey.

My money's on, oh well, either Doctor's mother, Master's mother, Romana's future regeneration, Donna (somehow)... or just some random Time Lord who still has a sense of decency, honour and duty.

 

[thaddeus6th]

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Unlikely to be the Doctor's Mother. If memory serves, the DOctor himself is a weird pseudo-mix of the Other (who shared power with Rassilon and Omega) and new genetic material. My guess would be Romana.

 

[Dave]

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Two people at once there, I think? The Seer was the painted dotty one, whereas the woman who kept speaking to Wilf seemed to be one of the two who voted against Rasillon.

I only watched this the one time, but I thought I saw the old woman grow young. I need to watch again sometime, but still not explained.

The transition was okay, but I have to wonder if the new kid's going to bring something new to the part. His first lines were extremely reminiscent of Tennant's.

He did say "Geronimo" and he says it again if you watch the 2010 Trailer. I do hope that isn't some kind of catchphrase, but expect that it is.

So basically what you're saying, Tanga, is that I really oughtn't make a judgement after eight lines. Well, okay ... since it comes from you, maybe I'll take your suggestion on board

True, but this was the chance to lay your goods out for display. If you don't make a very good job of doing that you may loose those customers for ever.

 

[TheEndIsNigh]

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So as expected, a load of very disappointing cr*p.

So a planet materialises in space inside the orbit of the moon and all that happens is a few people get scared and look to the sky. All very dramatic stuff and oooh they must have spent a fortune on that planet in the sky scene but come on even a 11 year old knows that planets don't come that close without a little death destruction. In the meantime a planet full of time lords stand in a room for a good ten minutes and none of them think to do anything but stand there while some nutter (the same nutter that locked them up mind) decides what he's going to shoot. Do these scripts ever get critiqued.

Imagine how it would get torn to shreds if they dared to place on the site.

Can't someone get the BBC to try one?

So, I know you have to keep it exiting for the new fans and things do have to move on but really did we need the Beijing olympic ending of one time lord with the destruction of the tardis so we don't have to explain the need for a new layout with the new doctor. When has that ever happened before. I think they need to get back to basics reduce the 'special effects' for the sake of 'special effects budget' and go back to investing in some good plot writers

Hopefully the new produces(?) will get a grip on reality for the new guy, because this was bad, really bad IMO.

 

[Vladd67]

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Well the original TARDIS look changed with Tom Baker, he just passed it off by saying he decided to use a secondary control room for a change. But of course nothing pre Eccleston seems to count these days so something as simple as that would probably never occur to the modern writers.